Jedi Archive
Thread: Test Center Prime Lightsaber Force/Action/Mind Costs:
WizKid72
Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:13 am
#27
gigaherz wrote:
Hard to compare FC for me because i have a post cu saber with 46fc....
jesus christ dude get yourself some pearls.. even "good" ones should bring it down some 15-20 force costs total
Pahaddino
Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:29 am
#28
I m surprised nobody asked, but what is the race of the Jedi used to test ?
You do know that rodian get a 40% action cost lower bonus
Twileek and bothan 20%
Trandoshan and Wookie get a 10% malus on action cost
MsNiL
Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:27 am
#29
As always the huge question:
If we pay as much action/mind as regular professions...
If we do as much damage as regular professions...
WHY DO WE PAY FORCE AS WELL?
I pay 18% force for the damage I take.
I use up 50-80 force for every strike I do.
I pay 160 force for the same heals that doctors get for free.
I pay 150 force to "wear my armor".
I pay 225 force to "root", which Pistoleers can do for a few % action and longer duration.
I pay 275 force to "daze", which combat medics/smugglers can do for a few % action.
I pay 500 force to "resist" disease/poison, which a doctor do for almost no mindcost.
I pay 470 force to run as fast as a Master Bountyhunter or anybody with parwan nutricake.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 06-27-2005 03:42 PM
TheBountyHunter318
Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:30 am
#30
why the heal does it cost me more force to attack then heal!
they should take away FC on sabers if they dont do that (which they wont) the cost need to be cut to by 80%
Don_T_Shoot
Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:41 am
#31
Your post askes a very good question. Having a force bar is more hinderance than help it seems. But you are thinking of Parwan Cakes. Not Pikatta.
"I pay 470 force to run as fast as a Master Bountyhunter or anybody with pikatta pie."
"I pay 470 force to run as fast as a Master Bountyhunter or anybody with pikatta pie."
MsNiL
Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:42 am
#32
Fixed.
Don_T_Shoot wrote:
Your post askes a very good question. Having a force bar is more hinderance than help it seems. But you are thinking of Parwan Cakes. Not Pikatta.
"I pay 470 force to run as fast as a Master Bountyhunter or anybody with pikatta pie."
BDragon
Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:52 am
#33
I used to love the fact that Jedi had a force bar. It made me feel special and i thought it was a nice touch that we didnt use HAM like normal guys but instead had our own hidden bar to limit us, it made fighting as a Jedi different. Now however we pay action and mind just like everyone else for every damn move we do, im really not seeing the point of force anymore on lightsabers.
Why have the DEVs seen fit to give Jedi both a shortterm and a longterm hinderence? We must suffer twice for 0.5X more power? I really am begining to fear for the future of jedi if they think mind, action and force for moves is balance...
Why have the DEVs seen fit to give Jedi both a shortterm and a longterm hinderence? We must suffer twice for 0.5X more power? I really am begining to fear for the future of jedi if they think mind, action and force for moves is balance...
BukuJohnson
Mon Jun 27, 2005 6:54 am
#34
MsNil Wrote -
As always the huge question:
If we pay as much action/mind as regular professions...
If we do as much damage as regular professions...
WHY DO WE PAY FORCE AS WELL?
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________
If I remember correctly the devs answer to this was that action and mind costs are short term limitations, and force cost is our longer term limitation.
The question that begs answering is why do Jedi have a long term limitation and regular players do not?
All the players know that the easiest solution to defeating a Jedi is to simply run a Jedi out of force and then kill them.
At least you saberists have half the FC of powers, can hit twice as fast as powers, and do double the damage of powers. Oh yeah I forgot powers has cloak, when attacked a powers user is supposed to try and cloak then log out.
Buku
Naritus
As always the huge question:
If we pay as much action/mind as regular professions...
If we do as much damage as regular professions...
WHY DO WE PAY FORCE AS WELL?
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________
If I remember correctly the devs answer to this was that action and mind costs are short term limitations, and force cost is our longer term limitation.
The question that begs answering is why do Jedi have a long term limitation and regular players do not?
All the players know that the easiest solution to defeating a Jedi is to simply run a Jedi out of force and then kill them.
At least you saberists have half the FC of powers, can hit twice as fast as powers, and do double the damage of powers. Oh yeah I forgot powers has cloak, when attacked a powers user is supposed to try and cloak then log out.
Buku
Naritus
Styreta
Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:40 am
#35
Il go IG now and get the current costs
Message Edited by Styreta on 06-27-2005 07:40 PM
VPittou
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:01 am
#36
anything on the cooldown timer on power attack ? or dident that get through ?
Message Edited by VPittou on 06-27-2005 11:07 AM
Styreta
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:10 am
#37
Test Center Live
FC 23FC 22
SAC 97SAC 100
Saber Hit Saber Hit
5 - 2 -95 - 2 -9
Saber Strike Saber Strike
8 - 2 - 3310 - 2 - 42
Improved Saber Leg Hit Improved Saber Leg Hit
8 - 2 - 4110 - 2 - 53
Improved Saber Head Hit Improved Saber Head Hit
8 - 2 - 4110 - 2 - 53
Improved Saber Body Hit Improved Saber Body Hit
8 - 2 - 41 10 - 2 - 53
Improved Saber Power Attack Improved Saber Power Attack
12- 2 -55 14- 2 -83
Improved Saber Spin Attack Improved Saber Spin Attack
12 - 2 -55 14- 2 -83
Improved Saber SwipeImproved Saber Swipe
11 - 2 - 44 14 - 2 - 58
DervishDervish
11 - 4 - 60 14 - 4 - 104
Improved Saber Armor Break Improved Saber Armor Break
11 - 2 - 55 14 - 2 - 73
Improved Saber BlindImproved Saber Blind
8 - 2 - 4412 - 2 - 58
Improved Saber Stun Improved Saber Stun
8 - 2 - 55 12 - 2 - 73
Improved Saber Slash Improved Saber Slash
10 - 2 - 44 12 - 2 - 58
Improved Saber Sweep Improved Saber Sweep
12 - 2 - 44 12 - 2 - 58
Advanced Saber Throw Advanced Saber Throw
8 - 2 - 55 9 - 2 - 73
The force changes are nice.... but the devs can stick the new action costs up their a$$!
Message Edited by Styreta on 06-27-2005 08:15 PM
gera
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:13 am
#38
Indeed, I was hoping a "visible" change 
Message Edited by gera on 06-27-2005 11:14 AM
gera
Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:23 am
#39
BukuJohnson wrote:
MsNil Wrote -
As always the huge question:
If we pay as much action/mind as regular professions...
If we do as much damage as regular professions...
WHY DO WE PAY FORCE AS WELL?
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________
If I remember correctly the devs answer to this was that action and mind costs are short term limitations, and force cost is our longer term limitation.
The question that begs answering is why do Jedi have a long term limitation and regular players do not?
All the players know that the easiest solution to defeating a Jedi is to simply run a Jedi out of force and then kill them.
At least you saberists have half the FC of powers, can hit twice as fast as powers, and do double the damage of powers. Oh yeah I forgot powers has cloak, when attacked a powers user is supposed to try and cloak then log out.
Buku
Naritus
it is very same Blixtev again, this guy will never stop till he fired and burn with anger of Jedi. Longer term limitations? "Longer term = 3 creatures" in PvE. 1-on-1 only 1 duel in PVP.