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Thread: Test Center Prime Lightsaber Force/Action/Mind Costs:

garciaoki
Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:40 pm
#14






lajduke wrote:

Theres mind costs on sabers?





Yeah...its very small as you can see but it still exists. Not sure behind the logic on that one.



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Skeletun
Sun Jun 26, 2005 8:54 pm
#15






garciaoki wrote:





lajduke wrote:

Theres mind costs on sabers?





Yeah...its very small as you can see but it still exists. Not sure behind the logic on that one.





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apocalance
Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:02 pm
#16

hmm.. good to know



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Straker_Atrella
Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:21 pm
#17

Thx for the info, I guess we can figure out how much of a decrease that is. They did say that Force costs on Saber moves was going down right?


I'm also curious how much more damage sabers will do. It really had better be a lot. Dervish especially needs a huge damage bump. As was just shown it sucks up the most Force/Mind/Action, yet isn't all that steller.


The problem really is that a large percentage of todays combat occurs at range, so Dervish rarely becomes a large factor (in PVP at least.) Advanced Saber throw with it's area attack was much more effective and used much more often. I'm stil trying to get my head around the logic behind nerfing Saber throw. MLS isn't (wasn't) exactly overpowering, why make it worse?



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drfeelgood9
Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:27 pm
#18

why are you doing this soe? you are hitting us harder and more costs than any other proffesion. and this is just the beginning isnt it? you guys just are absolutly dolling out punishments to a proffesion with absolutly no reason for doing it. why cant u give a valid reason for this crap?
AtrusAtreides
Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:37 pm
#19






MajesticJester wrote:





AtrusAtreides wrote:
Saber hit down to 11 fc even with a 32 force cost saber, that will help the new guys out a lot.





saber hit is the same as now






Your right, I have never used the move.I didn't realize the cost was lowered that muchalready, just knew it was a big drain on padys when the CU went live.


Using the formula Saber_FC x SpecMultiplier + Base_FC = Actual_FC


Right now Saber Head/Body/Leg hit would cost 54 Force for the 23 FC Saber and 65 for the 32 FC Saber.


Thats being taken down to 41 and 52 respectively.


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rocksta
Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:40 pm
#20






drfeelgood9 wrote:
why are you doing this soe? you are hitting us harder and more costs than any other proffesion. and this is just the beginning isnt it? you guys just are absolutly dolling out punishments to a proffesion with absolutly no reason for doing it. why cant u give a valid reason for this crap?




dont you realize that the AC is getting reduced? this is a bonus for us...only thing negative is the healer nerfs...do ur homework next time.

JohnP
Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:44 pm
#21




OK now IM LOST!! I wanted to see what my 10FC saber will do but now i have no idea lol!!I suck at math!



first took the saber cost off the FS of the move... the devides the saber Force cost by themove force cost..



FC1 is a 23 Force Cost Lightsaber?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" />


FC2 is a 32 Force Cost Lightsaber



Action %- Mind %- FC1 Added FC- Saber FC [X Saber FC] - FC2 FC- Saber FC [X Saber FC]



Force Costs numbers are actual (not percent).



Saber Hit


5 - 2911



Saber Strike


8 - 2 - 33 +10- 42 +10


Improved Saber Leg Hit


8 - 2 - 41+18 [1.78x]52 +20 [1.62x]



Improved Saber Head Hit


8 - 2 - 41+18 [1.78x]52 +20 [1.62x]



Improved Saber Body Hit


8 - 2 - 41+18 [1.78x]52 +20 [1.62x]



Improved Saber Power Attack


12- 255 +32 [2.39x] 68 +36 [2.12x]



Improved Saber Spin Attack


12 - 2 -55 +32 [2.39x] 68 +36 [2.12x]



Improved Saber Swipe


11 - 244 +21[1.91x]55 +23 [1.71x]



Dervish


11 - 460 +37 [2.6x]73 +41 [2.28x]



Improved Saber Armor Break


11 - 2 - 55 +32 [2.39x] 68 +36 [2.12x]


Improved Saber Blind


8 - 2 - 44 +21[1.91x]55 +23 [1.71x]



Improved Saber Stun


8 - 2 - 55 +32 [2.39x] 68 +36 [2.12x]



Improved Saber Slash


10 - 2 - 55 +32 [2.39x] 68 +36 [2.12x]



Improved Saber Sweep


12 - 2 - 44 +21[1.91x]55 +23 [1.71x]



Advanced Saber Throw


8 - 2 - 55 +32 [2.39x] 68 +36 [2.12x]





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El_Oso_pardo
Sun Jun 26, 2005 9:54 pm
#22

this means that the base cost for the higher attacks is still there, and is still up there around 40-50




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buttabean811
Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:24 pm
#23

any tests done with stasis and others about the action cost?




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Nyracasso
Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:54 pm
#24

There's a mind cost for saber attacks?


The hell?





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Jediwannabe247
Sun Jun 26, 2005 11:43 pm
#25

Does SAC have any affect on the Mind cost? Does it ONLY affect action cost?
gigaherz
Mon Jun 27, 2005 1:00 am
#26

Hard to compare FC for me because i have a post cu saber with 46fc....



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