Jedi Archive

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lajduke wrote:

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allproucando wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

We are right back to where we were PreCU. Melee ruling jedi in PvP.

Uppon testing Armorbreak on a master enhancer (No aura), I found that it negates all of force armor (Basically turning it off) as well as 6% of the base Innate armor. Thus exposing our pajamas.

Playing as a Master Sabers/Master Enhancer If I get an armorbreak thrown on me, Im down in 2 hits.

The CU was supposed to iron out these imbalances, however it seems like we are right back to square one with Melee ruling jedi again.

As far as the "1.5" issue, yes against some template we are 1.5x stronger, however against certain melee templates such as the ones listed above in this thread, we are more like 0.5x stronger than them.

I think it all boils down to the fact that Jedi defenses are not balanced, as well as our damage output not balanced. I can fight Melee players on my MBH/Carbineer and not have to worry as much as I do about getting 2 hitted like I do on my jedi. There lies the problem.

I personally hope that SOE has large changes in store for Jedi Defense and Offense, because the way they are right now are certainly not balanced at all with certain professions.

/2cents

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just go back to pre-pub 9 days and we're okay in this world.

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My kingdom for PrePub9 SWG.

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allproucando wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

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allproucando wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

We are right back to where we were PreCU. Melee ruling jedi in PvP.

Uppon testing Armorbreak on a master enhancer (No aura), I found that it negates all of force armor (Basically turning it off) as well as 6% of the base Innate armor. Thus exposing our pajamas.

Playing as a Master Sabers/Master Enhancer If I get an armorbreak thrown on me, Im down in 2 hits.

The CU was supposed to iron out these imbalances, however it seems like we are right back to square one with Melee ruling jedi again.

As far as the "1.5" issue, yes against some template we are 1.5x stronger, however against certain melee templates such as the ones listed above in this thread, we are more like 0.5x stronger than them.

I think it all boils down to the fact that Jedi defenses are not balanced, as well as our damage output not balanced. I can fight Melee players on my MBH/Carbineer and not have to worry as much as I do about getting 2 hitted like I do on my jedi. There lies the problem.

I personally hope that SOE has large changes in store for Jedi Defense and Offense, because the way they are right now are certainly not balanced at all with certain professions.

/2cents

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just go back to pre-pub 9 days and we're okay in this world.

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My kingdom for PrePub9 SWG.

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yeah, wishful thinking though..

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allproucando wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

Id sell my left nut to play PreCU at least.....oh wait thats going a bit far.

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yeah, I kinda like the women more than SWG...

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lajduke wrote:

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allproucando wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

Id sell my left nut to play PreCU at least.....oh wait thats going a bit far.

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yeah, I kinda like the women more than SWG...

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Are you sure?

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well,

lets weight it...

Pros to having women:

1) Pleasure

2) Pleasure

3) see #2 and #1

4) see #3, #2, and #1

Cons:

1) Nags...

2) wants cash for shopping(could be used for ebay :smileytongue

3) have chores

5) nags constantly

6) snores at night

Okay, I like SWG better. You got me convinced!

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lajduke wrote:

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allproucando wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

Id sell my left nut to play PreCU at least.....oh wait thats going a bit far.

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yeah, I kinda like the women more than SWG...

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Are you sure?

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I like women more than SWG too

But woment dont like me

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allproucando wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

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allproucando wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

Id sell my left nut to play PreCU at least.....oh wait thats going a bit far.

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yeah, I kinda like the women more than SWG...

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Are you sure?

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well,

lets weight it...

Pros to having women:

1) Pleasure

2) Pleasure

3) see #2 and #1

4) see #3, #2, and #1

Cons:

1) Nags...

2) wants cash for shopping(could be used for ebay :smileytongue

3) have chores

5) nags constantly

6) snores at night

Okay, I like SWG better. You got me convinced!

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Gillik wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

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allproucando wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

Id sell my left nut to play PreCU at least.....oh wait thats going a bit far.

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yeah, I kinda like the women more than SWG...

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Are you sure?

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I like women more than SWG too

But woment dont like me

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Yes agree all jedi, upcoming jedi, need to speak out. all the dev's have acompolished is turning the jedi into a vanilla elite class, that can be owned by the standard elite classes, considering the work involved in becoming jedi there is no fairness here. the swordsman/doc or another popular one ive seen is master tk/master swords/master fencer. the devs need to realize that the Jedi being an alpha clas IS STAR WARS, Maybe the Dev's should watch the Movies or read the books with countless exapmples of jedi taking on multiple non force users. SO now our beloved jedi have become nothing more than a Modern D20 character with a laser sword. there is no balance here. how can you have balance when the average level 80 has earned 11 million XP to get there and after leveling and completing the village the jedi has to earn 36 million jedi/180 million standard XP to become full temp. all that work to get owned by a guy that has done roughly 1/20th the work that we have. maybe this is SOE's new way to get the jedi population down. nerf nerf nerf and the jedi will leave. i support a system where the jedi are an alpha class.

and lets not start in on the Docs and combat medics all thier powers work like force powers, they do not need to keep anything in stock to give buffs, healing, or rezzes, you want balance make the docs and CM's carry an inventory, add a dimension to the game the possibility to run out of supplies.

so now what do we have

• standard elits claases that can take the now own the now feeble jedi in 1v1 (an insult to cannon Star Wars)


• Hunted by Bounty Hunters to take our XP

A note to the devs, watch the Movies, Read the Books, you are turning George Lucas's Jedi into circus trickster who put on a nice light show. take a step back this is STAR WARS, THE JEDI/SITH ARE THE ALPHA CLASS OF THIS UNIVERSE AND AS SUCH ARE FEARED OR RESPECTED FOR THIER POWER. Lets do something to keep the game star warsy, or is it thePolicy of SOE to chase paying customers away

speak out jedi,

• jedi on naritus


• former jedi tempest (retired)


• former jedi eclipse (retired)


• MBH/MCH eclipse


• MM/TK/Architect naritus


• Master artisan/master weaponsmith/master armorsmith, naritus

How it should be

• jedi initiate 1.5X


• Padawan 1.75X


• Knight 2.0X


• Guardian 2.5X


• Master 3.0X

Yes agree all jedi, upcoming jedi, need to speak out. all the dev's have acompolished is turning the jedi into a vanilla elite class, that can be owned by the standard elite classes, considering the work involved in becoming jedi there is no fairness here. the swordsman/doc or another popular one ive seen is master tk/master swords/master fencer. the devs need to realize that the Jedi being an alpha clas IS STAR WARS, Maybe the Dev's should watch the Movies or read the books with countless exapmples of jedi taking on multiple non force users. SO now our beloved jedi have become nothing more than a Modern D20 character with a laser sword. there is no balance here. how can you have balance when the average level 80 has earned 11 million XP to get there and after leveling and completing the village the jedi has to earn 36 million jedi/180 million standard XP to become full temp. all that work to get owned by a guy that has done roughly 1/20th the work that we have. maybe this is SOE's new way to get the jedi population down. nerf nerf nerf and the jedi will leave. i support a system where the jedi are an alpha class.

and lets not start in on the Docs and combat medics all thier powers work like force powers, they do not need to keep anything in stock to give buffs, healing, or rezzes, you want balance make the docs and CM's carry an inventory, add a dimension to the game the possibility to run out of supplies.

so now what do we have

• standard elits claases that can take the now own the now feeble jedi in 1v1 (an insult to cannon Star Wars)


• Hunted by Bounty Hunters to take our XP

A note to the devs, watch the Movies, Read the Books, you are turning George Lucas's Jedi into circus trickster who put on a nice light show. take a step back this is STAR WARS, THE JEDI/SITH ARE THE ALPHA CLASS OF THIS UNIVERSE AND AS SUCH ARE FEARED OR RESPECTED FOR THIER POWER. Lets do something to keep the game star warsy, or is it thePolicy of SOE to chase paying customers away

speak out jedi,

• jedi on naritus


• former jedi tempest (retired)


• former jedi eclipse (retired)


• MBH/MCH eclipse


• MM/TK/Architect naritus


• Master artisan/master weaponsmith/master armorsmith, naritus

How it should be

• jedi initiate 1.5X


• Padawan 1.75X


• Knight 2.0X


• Guardian 2.5X


• Master 3.0X

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allproucando wrote:

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Gillik wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

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allproucando wrote:

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lajduke wrote:

Id sell my left nut to play PreCU at least.....oh wait thats going a bit far.

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yeah, I kinda like the women more than SWG...

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Are you sure?

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I like women more than SWG too

But woment dont like me

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LOL, you should mention that you have a jedi to the women. Like that one guy told that one girl at subway that he has a jedi and the girl fell all over him! LMAFO!

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All Jedi gotta speak up they r nerfing us way to much

Message Edited by Ewhaz on 09-22-2005 05:00 PM

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BamBam07 wrote:

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Ewhaz wrote:

Hi guys, after playing this game for 2 years having fun now I feel like quitting, because CU was suppose to "Balance" stuff out which I dont think it did...It made it worse then pre-CU...Jedi is suppose to be "1.5" times stronger then a regular player...I my self have an "uber" saber and +25 Ls speed/accu and general speed/accu...after "VSin" 3 swordsman I got hit for atleast 1.8k with "aura" on...I hit em for only like 400 at max....so now its gonna be swordsman/doc owning ne jedi they want....I thought good jedi were suppose to be stronger then them but it doesnt look like....if u dont trust me "Join" bria and check it out ur self the swordsman we have with "RIS" armor on...I am well known jedi on bria u can ask ne one how good I am before u say I am a nub and stuff...Have a nice day guys

Message Edited by Ewhaz on 09-21-2005 08:25 PM

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1.5 times stronger my azz dude there needs to be a way that bhs can kill jedi and normal players. Jedi shouldnt be the alpha leader in the game this is y they did this crap wit the CU too many jedi. Now the Normal Players have a chance. Good Job spending all your money on a speed capped suit where mod speed doesnt work and mod dps is stupid its all about ur max. Play this game have fun dont be a little **edit** because you got beat. I myself have a jedi and a fencer. I love my jedi and my fencer but my fencer is better you just have to know how to save your force and know when to attack watch there COB macros bro learn about the professions that beat you study there moves. Simple how do you think i can beat jedi with my normal fencer? i study the templates with my jedi and others.

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