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Thread: All Jedi Read Plz :)

Ewhaz
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:48 pm
#14






snipaho wrote:





Vawax wrote:
Heres the part I dont get... Isnt a Jedi using a 2 handed LS the "advanced" version of a swordsman? I think so in my head /shrug.. so why can they have "metal" "hammers" and hit for 1000+ damage in PvP and my "heat-laser" sword barely does above 500? You cant even pretend that makes sense.






/agree


Swordsman/Pike need a damage "balance", and Jedi needs a damage "unbalance". We all know balance in SOE's dictionary means nerf.







/nod



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StalkerGT
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:56 pm
#15


I Agree with Ewhaz on this problem, I really declare Jedi pointless in pvp beside's having them just for another profession... They's Swordsman/Doctors hit for atleast 1.2k or higher every second! They can Heal Faster and Hit Harder then some of the Best made Saber's in the game that have 4 Flawless pearls, with CA's +25 to speed and accuracy cant stand up to they's Swordsmen/Doctor profession which I think is really annoying and unfair.


Im not crying about it butIt take's Month's to get a Jedi plus the Grinding and yet a player can Grind out a Swordsman/Doctor in a week and Beat a Veteran Jedi with 4-5hits less then a few seconds.


Jedi's need to help and speak out about this problem, The Dev's wanted to even out the combat in the game but yet all they did was nerf Jedi.


I personally think it's pointless to run your Jedi that took you so long to get and have him get ganked by one of they's player's with RIS armor/Swordsman/Doctor Profession.


"They's are player's some might be Veteran some not but you dont see in the Starwars Movie's Swordsman/Doctor's Killing Jedi!"

Ewhaz
Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:58 pm
#16






Pistol-Handler wrote:






Ewhaz wrote:


Hi guys, after playing this game for 2 years having fun now I feel like quitting, because CU was suppose to "Balance" stuff out which I dont think it did...It made it worse then pre-CU...Jedi is suppose to be "1.5" times stronger then a regular player...I my self have an "uber" saber and +25 Ls speed/accu and general speed/accu...after "VSin" 3 swordsman I got hit for atleast 1.8k with "aura" on...I hit em for only like 400 at max....so now its gonna be swordsman/doc owning ne jedi they want....I thought good jedi were suppose to be stronger then them but it doesnt look like....if u dont trust me "Join" bria and check it out ur self the swordsman we have with "RIS" armor on...I am well known jedi on bria u can ask ne one how good I am before u say I am a nub and stuff...Have a nice day guys




Message Edited by Ewhaz on 09-21-200508:25 PM





What is your template? And is the 1.8k hits the three swordsmen combined of each one of them? If it was the second, how'd you get a hit off? 1.8k(3)... hmm that'd kill you in one hit if you didnt heal like crazy...I am suprised you even got a hit off... BUT if the 1.8k was combined, that's only 600 damage each... thats weak if you ask me...


I am not trying to say your a nub or anything, its just it doesnt make since if you really look at what you put down










Each hit was "1.8k DMG"...Not 3



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Pistol-Handler
Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:05 pm
#17






Ewhaz wrote:






Pistol-Handler wrote:






Ewhaz wrote:


Hi guys, after playing this game for 2 years having fun now I feel like quitting, because CU was suppose to "Balance" stuff out which I dont think it did...It made it worse then pre-CU...Jedi is suppose to be "1.5" times stronger then a regular player...I my self have an "uber" saber and +25 Ls speed/accu and general speed/accu...after "VSin" 3 swordsman I got hit for atleast 1.8k with "aura" on...I hit em for only like 400 at max....so now its gonna be swordsman/doc owning ne jedi they want....I thought good jedi were suppose to be stronger then them but it doesnt look like....if u dont trust me "Join" bria and check it out ur self the swordsman we have with "RIS" armor on...I am well known jedi on bria u can ask ne one how good I am before u say I am a nub and stuff...Have a nice day guys




Message Edited by Ewhaz on 09-21-200508:25 PM





What is your template? And is the 1.8k hits the three swordsmen combined of each one of them? If it was the second, how'd you get a hit off? 1.8k(3)... hmm that'd kill you in one hit if you didnt heal like crazy...I am suprised you even got a hit off... BUT if the 1.8k was combined, that's only 600 damage each... thats weak if you ask me...


I am not trying to say your a nub or anything, its just it doesnt make since if you really look at what you put down










Each hit was "1.8k DMG"...Not 3




1.8k(3) means three times 1.8k... thats 5.4k damage all together...I have yet to see a persone buff themselves over 5k...





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SqUiShEe08
Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:11 pm
#18






Pistol-Handler wrote:





Ewhaz wrote:






Pistol-Handler wrote:






Ewhaz wrote:


Hi guys, after playing this game for 2 years having fun now I feel like quitting, because CU was suppose to "Balance" stuff out which I dont think it did...It made it worse then pre-CU...Jedi is suppose to be "1.5" times stronger then a regular player...I my self have an "uber" saber and +25 Ls speed/accu and general speed/accu...after "VSin" 3 swordsman I got hit for atleast 1.8k with "aura" on...I hit em for only like 400 at max....so now its gonna be swordsman/doc owning ne jedi they want....I thought good jedi were suppose to be stronger then them but it doesnt look like....if u dont trust me "Join" bria and check it out ur self the swordsman we have with "RIS" armor on...I am well known jedi on bria u can ask ne one how good I am before u say I am a nub and stuff...Have a nice day guys




Message Edited by Ewhaz on 09-21-200508:25 PM





What is your template? And is the 1.8k hits the three swordsmen combined of each one of them? If it was the second, how'd you get a hit off? 1.8k(3)... hmm that'd kill you in one hit if you didnt heal like crazy...I am suprised you even got a hit off... BUT if the 1.8k was combined, that's only 600 damage each... thats weak if you ask me...


I am not trying to say your a nub or anything, its just it doesnt make since if you really look at what you put down










Each hit was "1.8k DMG"...Not 3




1.8k(3) means three times 1.8k... thats 5.4k damage all together...I have yet to see a persone buff themselves over 5k...







He's not talking about all at one time he means he dueled 3 different guys. And the uber swordsman on bria are the ones that came from flurry. We have PH's on flurry that have 1300 max damage when they converted from pre-cu cap is like 1124 or somethign like that. They used the cross-server trade to go to bria with a bunch of swords then grinded guys there.



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raybyrd
Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:18 pm
#19


swordsman need a lower dps OR.....


jedi need a little bit more resist VS meleeAND our heals need to be set back to the way they were before the POST CU nerf


Oh and the in game macro system needs to be tweeked so that a command can only be inputed every 2 or 3seconds


this means:

i make a macro that looks like this:


/attack;

/saberheadhit;

/macro headhiter;


it should play out like this no matter what the command there should be a delay whenusing macros between each command:



/attack;

[3 sec macro pause]

/saberheadhit;

[3 sec macro pause]

/macro headhiter;

[3 secpause before loop!]


I have watcheda swordsman from flurry who will remain namelessdo 3800 damage in less than 7 seconds and it takes 4 seconds to heal as a jedi so basicly if your not buffed or on any foods your dead and even then it wont matter cause a doc can out heal your attacksPLUS they can use a macro to beat their cool down timers FTW


and you want to know our template? MLS defender 4440 healer 4000 enhancer 3002 we basicly are short about 25 melee defense of being a master defender and have about the same innate armor bonus as well



PLAIN AND SIMPLE melee people should miss jedi alot more than they do now even with accuracy tapes i mean damn vader had to fight luke quite a long damn time before taking his hand off let alone close to killing him and he WAS a jedi!


If a jedi fought some dude with a hammer in the movies the jedi would just cut the damn head off the hammer and the swordsman would get his leg and/or arm cut off just for pissing the jedi off


Thats another thing too if your a BH (or even another jedi for that matter) and you fight a jedi and win im cool with losing the exp and you making some money

BUT IF I WIN you should lose a damn leg or an arm for a day or 2 and have it replaced with a cyberneticthat hinders your movement, accuracy, speed (or at least cost the same as the mission you took to get your arm or legput back on)


DEVS LISTEN UP YOU NERFED JEDI TOO MUCH swordsman/doc (1 - 2 week grind 50 + 15$) > jedi (18+ week grind 50 + 75$)


do the math your making more money off us and giving us less to do and letting the 2 week grinders run all over us

(and they wonder why jedi are prone to being e-bay'd)


Most of us understand that there are alot more jedis running around then there used to be so we should be nerfed a bit but 1 v 1 it should take alot more than some tapes and a 2 week grind to kill us


All you people that are grinding out jedi now and reading these forums look out because at this nerfin paceby the time your a jedi some fricken level 66 rifle man is going to be able to kick the living hell out of you






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One-Wit_DaForce
Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:27 pm
#20

They don't want you to play jedi. Plain and simple. My Powers Defender got wiped out by a nest of lvl 79 hurtons where my sons pikeman hybrid can easily wipe it out. The best I can suggest is to scream about the balance.


I'm dropping powers to pick up pistols. Why? Because a pistoleer does more damage. Plain and simple.





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trifidac
Wed Sep 21, 2005 10:52 pm
#21


p897t98 wrote:


Ewhaz wrote:
Kind of a msg to devs all the Nerfs they did to us and now swordsman r owning us

Message Edited by Ewhaz on 09-21-2005 08:26 PM





Pike>Swords


/nod... Intimidate+warcry+impale+AOE KD > Critical+(SLOW) Powerattack.




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Gillik
Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:04 pm
#22

MRifleman, MBH, 4000 cm. need a laser rifle with over 900 damage. 7000 kin resist comp. some food. doc buffs. N now your able to solo krayts.



I personally killed:


7 juvies

5 canyons

2 giant canyons.



Conceal shot at 65m. Most were at half health b4 they spotted me.



You can also solo the Kerritamba arena with this template. Not to mention the bh loot.






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Ruarc - Elder Jedi
lajduke
Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:42 pm
#23

We are right back to where we were PreCU. Melee ruling jedi in PvP.


Uppon testing Armorbreak on a master enhancer (No aura), I found that it negates all of force armor (Basically turning it off) as well as 6% of the base Innate armor. Thus exposing our pajamas.


Playing as a Master Sabers/Master Enhancer If I get an armorbreak thrown on me, Im down in 2 hits.


The CU was supposed to iron out these imbalances, however it seems like we are right back to square one with Melee ruling jedi again.


As far as the "1.5" issue, yes against some template we are 1.5x stronger, however against certain melee templates such as the ones listed above in this thread, we are more like 0.5x stronger than them.


I think it all boils down to the fact that Jedi defenses are not balanced, as well as our damage output not balanced. I can fight Melee players on my MBH/Carbineer and not have to worry as much as I do about getting 2 hitted like I do on my jedi. There lies the problem.


I personally hope that SOE has large changes in store for Jedi Defense and Offense, because the way they are right now are certainly not balanced at all with certain professions.


/2cents






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allproucando
Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:46 pm
#24






lajduke wrote:

We are right back to where we were PreCU. Melee ruling jedi in PvP.


Uppon testing Armorbreak on a master enhancer (No aura), I found that it negates all of force armor (Basically turning it off) as well as 6% of the base Innate armor. Thus exposing our pajamas.


Playing as a Master Sabers/Master Enhancer If I get an armorbreak thrown on me, Im down in 2 hits.


The CU was supposed to iron out these imbalances, however it seems like we are right back to square one with Melee ruling jedi again.


As far as the "1.5" issue, yes against some template we are 1.5x stronger, however against certain melee templates such as the ones listed above in this thread, we are more like 0.5x stronger than them.


I think it all boils down to the fact that Jedi defenses are not balanced, as well as our damage output not balanced. I can fight Melee players on my MBH/Carbineer and not have to worry as much as I do about getting 2 hitted like I do on my jedi. There lies the problem.


I personally hope that SOE has large changes in store for Jedi Defense and Offense, because the way they are right now are certainly not balanced at all with certain professions.


/2cents







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lajduke
Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:49 pm
#25






allproucando wrote:





lajduke wrote:

We are right back to where we were PreCU. Melee ruling jedi in PvP.


Uppon testing Armorbreak on a master enhancer (No aura), I found that it negates all of force armor (Basically turning it off) as well as 6% of the base Innate armor. Thus exposing our pajamas.


Playing as a Master Sabers/Master Enhancer If I get an armorbreak thrown on me, Im down in 2 hits.


The CU was supposed to iron out these imbalances, however it seems like we are right back to square one with Melee ruling jedi again.


As far as the "1.5" issue, yes against some template we are 1.5x stronger, however against certain melee templates such as the ones listed above in this thread, we are more like 0.5x stronger than them.


I think it all boils down to the fact that Jedi defenses are not balanced, as well as our damage output not balanced. I can fight Melee players on my MBH/Carbineer and not have to worry as much as I do about getting 2 hitted like I do on my jedi. There lies the problem.


I personally hope that SOE has large changes in store for Jedi Defense and Offense, because the way they are right now are certainly not balanced at all with certain professions.


/2cents







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BamBam07
Wed Sep 21, 2005 11:49 pm
#26






Ewhaz wrote:


Hi guys, after playing this game for 2 years having fun now I feel like quitting, because CU was suppose to "Balance" stuff out which I dont think it did...It made it worse then pre-CU...Jedi is suppose to be "1.5" times stronger then a regular player...I my self have an "uber" saber and +25 Ls speed/accu and general speed/accu...after "VSin" 3 swordsman I got hit for atleast 1.8k with "aura" on...I hit em for only like 400 at max....so now its gonna be swordsman/doc owning ne jedi they want....I thought good jedi were suppose to be stronger then them but it doesnt look like....if u dont trust me "Join" bria and check it out ur self the swordsman we have with "RIS" armor on...I am well known jedi on bria u can ask ne one how good I am before u say I am a nub and stuff...Have a nice day guys




Message Edited by Ewhaz on 09-21-2005 08:25 PM




1.5 times stronger my azz dude there needs to be a way that bhs can kill jedi and normal players. Jedi shouldnt be the alpha leader in the game this is y they did this crap wit the CU too many jedi. Now the Normal Players have a chance. Good Job spending all your money on a speed capped suit where mod speed doesnt work and mod dps is stupid its all about ur max. Play this game have fun dont be a little **edit** because you got beat. I myself have a jedi and a fencer. I love my jedi and my fencer but my fencer is better you just have to know how to save your force and know when to attack watch there COB macros bro learn about the professions that beat you study there moves. Simple how do you think i can beat jedi with my normal fencer? i study the templates with my jedi and others.



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