Jedi Archive

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AfeeElandra wrote:
blah blah

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/raise

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allproucando wrote:

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Sharky112 wrote:

It's not speculation. It's common sense.

But if u choose to look at it that way.....go for it.

Message Edited by Sharky112 on 09-22-2005 03:04 AM

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Dude, they will not piss off the older jedi population. Meaning us in the pre-pub 9 days... Trust me.. they will not do that

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Personally i would be happy if they made changes to the lightsabers, and not just speaking from a personal point of view.

While my saber isn't great, its not too shabby either (crystals in the 75-95 damage range). However, i've wanted changes made for a long time.

I feel that crystals/pearls should be our equivalent of slices and weapon pups. The bulk of the stats on the saber should come from the resource quality when crafting, and experimentation with perhaps crafted components used in the final saber, and allow looted components such as emitters, lens's etc with better stats as our equivalent of gorax bones and the like.

I have an idea... lets all get all fired up about something that is merely speculation! Then we should **edit** and moan, and then **edit** and moan some more!! But look who I'm telling this too... that's all anyone is doing around here.

As long as we are setting up hypothetical situations... I heard they were giving all Jedi Feather Dusters instead of Light Sabers. I don't know about you guys, but when I make up rumors like that from stuff I misinterpret and skew to my own perspective I get really angry and like to threaten quitting this game when no one really cares whether I do or not!!!

I usually hate the reactionaries, but the purpose of that chat was to put out information...so talking about keeping things in the 'interim' is quite worthy of a flame-fest.

I wish we had a solid count of pre-cu Jedi. I have a bad feeling that the population is small enough that we wouldn't have much of a voice if they wanted to gank our pearls.

The post-cu Jedi (who were hosed with the pearls they are stuck with) wouldn't really be affected by a retro-pearl grab in the same way. A few would...those who were rich enough to buy up the few flawless left...but the average Jedi wouldn't be hurt too badly.

Please note: There is a serious question about how to implement a PvP based FRS when there are two sets of Jedi out there...those with great sabers and those with poor sabers.

I worked two years to build my saber, so I am going to be livid if they nerf it to pieces...but I don't think they care about my demographic of the overall Jedi population...

Wolf

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acmtalk wrote:
The only way that they would "nerf" it is to change the stats of new pearls.. I have though about it and I am allmost sure that they might do that Something like.. adding SAC reduction to pearls, changing numbers such of force costs speed etc.. or making ADK not work with sabers... well it sux But we all know how SOE acts...

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I can totally see them doing this, and tbh I think that it would be a good idea. I can also see them not bothering to add the SAC reduction to old pearls. That way they are not taking anything away from old Jedi, so you still get to use them, but it will balance out sabers somewhat. (don't jump up and down on me yet for asking for a nerf, I will explain more below)

This would be a great opportunity to upgrade to a better Lightsaber system.

1. Change the way Lightsabers are built, ie add more components to Sabers to give more scope for components to add to damage, reduce SAC/Force costmore instead of pearls/crystals doing this up


2. Lower the actual damage, speed and force cost on crystals/pearls


3. Old crystals and Pearls cannot be used in "new" Lightsabers as this would unbalance the damage


4. This gives old Jedi the choice between their old perfect hig damage sabers that have a high SAC cost and the new system with reduced SAC cost. This way all the pearl/crystal hunting that you guys have done is not wasted.

Now I realise that means that a perfect "New" sabre would have to be slightly less damage than the old sabers so this may need some attention but I think this may be the best way to ensure that newer Jedi don't get the brushoff while keeping all the old Jedi moderately happy.

/sigh

Ok, we have two 'classes' of bh here and two 'classes' of Jedi as I see it.

BH Type A: BH with standard weapons and armour
BH Type B: BH with 75% armourbreak slice and an uber adk'd pup'd dmg/speed capped weapon.

Jedi Type A: Jedi with post-cu saber (say 400-500dps)
Jedi Type B: Jedi with pre-cu saber (say 600-700dps)

Now for the following fights assuming equal player pvp skill and experience:

Fight #1: BH Type A vs Jedi Type A - reasonably fair fight, pretty balanced
Fight #2: BH Type A vs Jedi Type B - high chance the BH is going to get creamed
Fight #3: BH Type B vs Jedi Type A - high chance the Jedi is going to get creamed
Fight #4: BH Type B vs Jedi Type B - reasonably fair fight, pretty balanced

Now, this seems pretty fair to me on paper, BUT - ANY BH is capable of getting a 75% sliced suit of armour and a dmg/speed capped weapon if they put enough time and effort in.

In other words every BH can be a BH Type B IF they can be bothered.

Only pre-cu Jedi can be a Jedi Type B. So... if they do remove premiums from the game as suggested, without removing armourbreak slices or uber weapons, then most Jedi vs BH fights are going to tend towards Fight #3.

If this happens I will be seriously considering cancelling my sub.

The only fair solution is to open up a way for Jedi to get premium quality tunes again via hard work and effort.

For the record I have a set of near perfect set of premium pearls from pre-cu, it took me about 60mill credits and 3months of krayt hunting to achieve.

Well, before any post cu jedi start celebrating you need to take in to consideration that the peice of crap you are forced into using to fight off tweaked up non-alpha characters is the best you are going to have for the rest of your jedi life. If soe nerfs the pre cu jedi it will have way more consequences than just the pre cu jedi. It will be the final nail in the coffin. All the bh that are not mcm's will soon be and your life will be miserable. I have campained from the beginning that pre cu sabers dont need to be nerfed, post cu need to be raised. Now, I am sure soe will counter with some screwed up plan to make it appear they will keep sabers strong, (that makes me quiver just to type it), but it will be the end game sign of all time....no saber worth having means no jedi worth having....I dont think powers will get any love so no need to jump mls to mpowers either.

IMO, there should be no pearls or crystals, and i have a 700 dam saber

u never heard luke skywalker say "jeez darth, u had better crystals im your saber than me"...it should be based on skill, not some random loot drop

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DeadlyTedly wrote:
/sigh

Ok, we have two 'classes' of bh here and two 'classes' of Jedi as I see it.

BH Type A: BH with standard weapons and armour
BH Type B: BH with 75% armourbreak slice and an uber adk'd pup'd dmg/speed capped weapon.

Jedi Type A: Jedi with post-cu saber (say 400-500dps)
Jedi Type B: Jedi with pre-cu saber (say 600-700dps)

Now for the following fights assuming equal player pvp skill and experience:

Fight #1: BH Type A vs Jedi Type A - reasonably fair fight, pretty balanced
Fight #2: BH Type A vs Jedi Type B - high chance the BH is going to get creamed
Fight #3: BH Type B vs Jedi Type A - high chance the Jedi is going to get creamed
Fight #4: BH Type B vs Jedi Type B - reasonably fair fight, pretty balanced

Now, this seems pretty fair to me on paper, BUT - ANY BH is capable of getting a 75% sliced suit of armour and a dmg/speed capped weapon if they put enough time and effort in.

In other words every BH can be a BH Type B IF they can be bothered.

Only pre-cu Jedi can be a Jedi Type B. So... if they do remove premiums from the game as suggested, without removing armourbreak slices or uber weapons, then most Jedi vs BH fights are going to tend towards Fight #3.

If this happens I will be seriously considering cancelling my sub.

The only fair solution is to open up a way for Jedi to get premium quality tunes again via hard work and effort.

For the record I have a set of near perfect set of premium pearls from pre-cu, it took me about 60mill credits and 3months of krayt hunting to achieve.

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For the bit marked in red.

I would have to say to this......well complete and absolute rubbish. Why? Well it is possible for Jedi to get a perfect saber at the moment as all pearls/crystals have the chance to tune to perfect, yeah it may be harder only using fairs/goods but it is still possible *IF the Jedi can be bothered. True would be a pain in the a*** to do it tho.

For the record I have had some good tunes from fairs so far, ok not perfect but not that far off. I just get fed up of people saying that it is not possible.

hey, BTW, ive spent 6 months and 100 mill credits, and still no perfect tunes