Jedi Archive
Thread: calling for nerfing on the 3week expiration of vis MAKE IT A WEEK
Subie_Smith wrote:1.) There should be no such thing as visability.2.) There should be no such thing as forced PvP.3.) Jedi should voluntarily make themselves available to the BH mission system.4.) The penalty should be equal for both Jedi and BHs for losing.Anyone who thinks that forced PvP is good for the game or good for the community is a complete moron. <<< Period
Leave the game please. Its people like you, who are spoilt whining brats that ruin it.
You choose to become a jedi therfore it is not forced pvp!
You have a choice no one is forcing you todo anything, it is infact you who is the moron.
Basically you want everything handed to you on a plate like so many new jedi, you are a disgrace to every single person before you.
As for the orginal poster, FFS you dont loose xp from pve deaths and now you want vis changed to a 1 week timer ...lol
despite what u have stated it is more beneficial to continue grinding whilst on the terms you can easily make up more xp than you loose.
It is pointless to wait around for 3 weeks or even 1 week if you were to get ur way.
I dont think Bh's can be punished....otherwise that would have them all hunting the paddies.....
for those of u who grinded pre-cu...congratulatiions.....relevence to me....zero.....post cu MORE BH's
unlike most Jedi pre cu, I havent spent my time akf grinding.....so thats why I am still doing my temp 4months after unlock.
all Im looking for is a bit of balance on the xp loss.....with BH's being able to take u down so easily...
and the only reason there are more jedi...cause of the upcoming expansion based only for jedi (mainly).
I dont have time to play for 4hrs everyday like some.....real life keeps me busy...
therealchinpokomon wrote:
I dont think Bh's can be punished....otherwise that would have them all hunting the paddies.....
for those of u who grinded pre-cu...congratulatiions.....relevence to me....zero.....post cu MORE BH's
-BHM says "uh relevance to you zero? Yeah good point! Butthen you say now there are more BHs.. relevance to me: zero.. you should have unlocked/grinded before the CU /shrug"
unlike most Jedi pre cu, I havent spent my time akf grinding.....so thats why I am still doing my temp 4months after unlock.
-BHM says:"Unlike many jedi post-CU, who got their template done in 1 week thanks to rryatt trails and multiple respecs, it took me 3 months of grind on seething bol crushers/voritor trackers/random spawns on Endor (all atk) to finish my template"
all Im looking for is a bit of balance on the xp loss.....with BH's being able to take u down so easily...
-BHM says: "If you avoid visibility, which is extermely easy now that groupmembers don't give visibility anymore, you will never have to deal with BHs until you decide you're strong enough. I did all my grind OUT of BH terminals, until I was eligible for the knight trials. If you are full template and BHs can still easily kill you, you cannot play your Jedi and best thing you can do is practice a lot. Yes, MBH/MCM are powerful, but I'd rather deal with an MBH/MCM than vs 1 (if not more) pre-CU melee/inv3 BHs with fire/disease/posison weapons, or vs BHs with legendary/exceptional T21s (1 shot thru block and goodbye Jedi)"
and the only reason there are more jedi...cause of the upcoming expansion based only for jedi (mainly).
I dont have time to play for 4hrs everyday like some.....real life keeps me busy...
-BHM says "Fine, then accept the fact that it will take you more time to complete your template, there's nohing wrong with that
"
therealchinpokomon wrote:I mean really.....ITS TOO LONGlogged in last week....grindind...got nailed by a BH.....lost 300k xp min.....over the course of a few sessions climbed up to 250k pos xp.....got nailed again....now in the hole for -200kI mean...I cant even clear it if I wanna finish my temp....cant fight back....not strong enough...happy to log out and wait for it to clear.....but3 WEEKS!!!plaese...anyone who SUPPORTS please post here....others....please try and start another thread if u dont support this....
I unlocked back in may, and have only been on the terms 4 times, have only had neg exp 2 times. I am half way through my grind, becuase I am a part time player, and took a 6 weeks off. Just grind in Jedi groups, away from the crowded areas, never be combatant, and don't quest stuff, or anything else, with your Jedi toon, unti you feel you can hold your own with a bh.
There is no reason to change this...none, nada
If you are grinding your template and need xp stay off the terms. Don't duel, show off, kill NPC's etc. If you get visibility by accident then just deal with it.
If you aretemplated chances are you are pvp'ing and getting constantly visible anyway.
The only reason people want this changed is because when they get visible they would just rather not deal with a BH and lose xp. Well we control our own visibility and should be accountable.
The three week window is one of the incentives to not get visibility until you are ready and there is no game breaking reason to alter that.
Message Edited by Scoooter on 09-12-2005 10:46 AM
2. Apparently you are doing things to get on in a much shorter time anyway (since you were hit twice) so this wouldn't even matter to you.
3. Once you get full template anyway, you're going to be on the terminals because every full template I know is out doing stuff that puts them on the terminals anyway.
Subie_Smith wrote:
1.) There should be no such thing as visability.
2.) There should be no such thing as forced PvP.
3.) Jedi should voluntarily make themselves available to the BH mission system.
4.) The penalty should be equal for both Jedi and BHs for losing.
Anyone who thinks that forced PvP is good for the game or good for the community is a complete moron. <<< Period
Well unlike other professions, Jedi is PVP required.
If you don't like PVP then don't do jedi plain and simple.
You knew that going into it
By accepting and grinding Jedi you signed a waver as far as forced pvp goes.
If you do not want PVP then drop Jedi. It's part of the package and no one is forcing you to be a Jedi.
This game does not force PVP at all in any way.If you make the choice to be a Jedithen you say "yes" to pvp and it's just that simple. but it was your choice and not forced upon you.
Heck you even control whether you get on the terms to begin with.
Message Edited by Scoooter on 09-12-2005 10:54 AM
I think that vis decay should clear completely on death, but that regular vis decay should be 2 months.
The main problem is that your aren't smart enough to know how to NOT get vis.
therealchinpokomon wrote:
I mean really.....ITS TOO LONG
logged in last week....grindind...got nailed by a BH.....lost 300k xp min.....over the course of a few sessions climbed up to 250k pos xp.....got nailed again....now in the hole for -200k
I mean...I cant even clear it if I wanna finish my temp....cant fight back....not strong enough...happy to log out and wait for it to clear.....but3 WEEKS!!!
plaese...anyone who SUPPORTS please post here....
others....please try and start another thread if u dont support this....
what a wuss!
Subie_Smith wrote:
1.) There should be no such thing as visability.
2.) There should be no such thing as forced PvP.
3.) Jedi should voluntarily make themselves available to the BH mission system.
4.) The penalty should be equal for both Jedi and BHs for losing.
Anyone who thinks that forced PvP is good for the game or good for the community is a complete moron. <<< Period
Forced PvP? You are not forced to be a jedi! You are not forced to get on the terminals! Stop crying and think before you post. Saying BH's should have the same penalty as jedi means they will make BH EQUAL to jedi. I know now you guys do not feel 1.5x stronger but they still state we are suppose to be equal if you want crap like this in publishes. Why do I even bother posting, people will complain, people will get the grind made easier (again and again...) and then eventually jedi will be nothing. I guess the good days of jedi are over. 
Now thinking ideas like that are good for jedi makes you a complere moron.<<<Period
Message Edited by MDBangs on 09-12-2005 01:11 PM
therealchinpokomon wrote:
I mean really.....ITS TOO LONG
logged in last week....grindind...got nailed by a BH.....lost 300k xp min.....over the course of a few sessions climbed up to 250k pos xp.....got nailed again....now in the hole for -200k
I mean...I cant even clear it if I wanna finish my temp....cant fight back....not strong enough...happy to log out and wait for it to clear.....but3 WEEKS!!!
plaese...anyone who SUPPORTS please post here....
others....please try and start another thread if u dont support this....
I support you hitting the cancel button...
Subie_Smith wrote:
1.) There should be no such thing as visability.
It is just a guage to determin if you are on the terms and someone may have told the right person to get a BH after
you. Actually pretty realistic concept
2.) There should be no such thing as forced PvP.
there is not forced pvp or did someone use thumb screws on you to force you to become a Jedi
3.) Jedi should voluntarily make themselves available to the BH mission system.
LAMO ... and how many would do that, you may as well say no player missions period
4.) The penalty should be equal for both Jedi and BHs for losing.
No necessarily equal but there should be somethin. Currently there is no incentive for the Jedi to stay and fight.
Anyone who thinks that forced PvP is good for the game or good for the community is a complete moron. <<< Period
Where is the forced pvp?