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Thread: Mdef

zaush
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:05 am
#27



Saereth wrote:


zaush wrote:


Saereth wrote:
mdef/0444ls/enhancer 3002/healer 4 works exceedingly well for me, its awesome pve, and vs MLS/Mdef/xxx2enh/3xxxhealer templates in pvp they run out of mind alot faster than me thanks to the aditional 500pt heals so all around I thoroughly enjoy this temp, especially when someone your pvping sees the fight isnt going their way and well... lets just say nothing strikes morepanic into your opponents than being rooted 2ms from some dood juiced up on force speed + AI when they're out of mind





This is the temp I am grinding, but thinking of dropping ls 0040 after I am done drinding the majority of it. Thinking of picking up enh 0040 line for state def increase.


I can definatly see your logic there... but states are pretty meaningless post cu and I havent noticed state defenses working at all with my menhancer friends, probably better off wtih xxx4 healer to just remove them all if they really concern you -shrug-





WOW I never thought of that for some reason. Hmm Back to Bloodfin..lol

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KRAKEN666
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:09 am
#28

first you need to remember if you are continuing with the mythical frs, your end game is pvp and could be multiple target jedi at once. thats what you need to set your template up for...but, if you are staying out of the frs, your main concern other than gcw will be bh. tbh, anyone who can fight off a jedi with a jedi wont have a problem with bh's. dont push your template where you are worried about npc's and bh's because that will seriously hurt you in the long run if you go frs. thats assuming that soe has no imagination and makes the frs pvp jedi vs jedi which most agree will happen.
KRAKEN666
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:21 am
#29

the use of ai for most non full templates is merely to get enough time to run away. in 5 months of being a mdef i used it once in a fight and had to change mid fight my stratagies because of the 1000 fp cost. and that was before the nerf that wont allow you to move during it. if you play your character well you will never have to be in that situation pvp to have to use it. most people are using ai to take out uber npc's and tank them in a group. all of my references are towards the pvp use of the ai.


i am mdef, mls, heal 4x4x and have won 15 bh battles, no losses, one draw because of a 90 minute plus fight neither of us could win, two ran away because of a db bug, all post cu in a row. out of the 15 bh, 12 were bh/cm, one bh/doc, and two bh/rifles. two of the wins were very close, one because the guy was a very good bh, and the other was becuase my wireless keyboard batteries ran out and i had to fight with a mouse untill i could change batteries mid battle. in all those battles i use ai just one time to try nothing but an attack for 1:45 seconds and not worry about other force powers like aura, valor, or infusion. it drained me so fast i got very worried by the end of the battle.


we all have reasons to have it, but personally i recommend it if you are in a situation you cant win just like powers jedi use cloak. you can only be on defense so long before you have to fight or flee.


Chris-DaMan
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:25 am
#30

you are realising tho that ai does not last 90 seconds?


1000 fc for 90 seconds would be the sh|t
KRAKEN666
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:29 am
#31

yeah, its two minutes,,didnt catch it the first time i typed it.


Chris-DaMan
Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:50 am
#32






KRAKEN666 wrote:

yeah, its two minutes,,didnt catch it the first time i typed it.







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DaTick
Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:00 pm
#33

well when npc start using force again I change my tactics to fit the new rules everything has a weakness player or NPC& I'm VERY good at finding them.



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Olim-Jake
Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:05 pm
#34






Tarja- wrote:

ok, im looking to pick up AI cause apparantly people don't like me much

im curious what everyone has been mixing Mdef with

i need atleast 0444 sabers since my dbl is the only pre CU i have and im almost caped on tapes for it






My temp on one jedi is:


MDEF, LS0404, ENH4004, HEAL4100


A rarely mentioned skill is valor. I just love the never ending+Block+ +Block+ +Block+ flytext, especially in the DWB. Yes, AI is not what is was, the snare is what killed it.


If you really need the DB line, you could do MDEF, LS0444, ENH3002, HEAL4000


Jofa
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:02 pm
#35






-Light- wrote:

I would go for:


MDEF, LS0444, ENH3002, HEAL4000







This is about the best you can get I'd say with Mdef and 0444 LS...




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myjedi
Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:38 pm
#36

i used x444 sabers master defender 4xxx heal and 3xx2 enhancer was a great template i luved it






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Tarja-
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:41 pm
#37






MajesticJester wrote:

you should not base a template around a pre-cu saber that at any time can get nerfed





i doubt since its not that big of an advantage, just a little bit of speed...and im also almost caped on double bladed mods and can wear robes with them so yeah i need dbl line in sabers.

thanks for the replies

Message Edited by Tarja- on 09-12-2005 03:41 PM



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Phantom513
Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:46 pm
#38

Im mls/mdef 4040 heal lets you deal with about every bh template out there, including mcm/mbh.



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xkarvastorx
Tue Sep 13, 2005 12:56 am
#39

Master defender master ls, healer 3-0-0-0,enhancer 0-0-0-2. Good for bh and good for pve.



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