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I would go for:

MDEF, LS0444, ENH3002, HEAL4000

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Tarja- wrote:

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KRAKEN666 wrote:
just run, save your force.....

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lets say its an 8 on 8 fight. all 8 rebs would target me first, you can't run that fast or heal that fast. and that does my group no good. i know alot of jedi are fans of ditching their friends and saving themselves however i like to help my guildies and friends.

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Hopefully your group is smart enough to concentrate on one attacker, also, or healing you to keep you alive. If not, you need to work on your group combat skills.
Lets put it this way:
a) 8 beating on you
b) you turn on AI
c) 8 letting you stand there, either beating on one of your group members or moving out until your AI drops

Always expect to be paralyzed or put into stasis when you fire up AI, which pretty much renders AI useless.

If all in your group are MDef and all would use AI when they became the target, your opponents would just force everybody in your group into AI, then stasis, root or snare all of you (AI snare + snare attack = almost root), and wait till the AI drops again.

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KRAKEN666 wrote:
you are talking about using ai for just a certain situation that is a choice, most of us are talking about using it in a real battle with pvp. If you have to use it, use it. i have a 7200 force bar and would only last 3.5 minutes if that was the only thing i was using that took force. well, unless you are not going to use any saber hits thats fine but in reality you have to so that means your force bar drops time drops to about 2.5 minutes....can u kill a djm in 2.5 minutes? Would love to have that saber if i could.

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8 on 8 fights are real PvP, and when 4 or 5 target you because your the called target your gonna die. and yes i am talking about a certain situation which is why i simply asked what Mdef templates people are using to which i got 2 replies.

Message Edited by Tarja- on 09-12-2005 06:58 AM

tarja, will you please keep on the subject...we were talking about npc at last i looked andyou come in try to flame just by changing the next message and making it counter the message before it. you are starting to look like a troller.

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KRAKEN666 wrote:
tarja, will you please keep on the subject...we were talking about npc at last i looked andyou come in try to flame just by changing the next message and making it counter the message before it. you are starting to look like a troller.

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id love to stay on subject, all i wanted was some Mdef templates being used and i get two out of like ten responses to that question.

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Tarja- wrote:

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KRAKEN666 wrote:
tarja, will you please keep on the subject...we were talking about npc at last i looked andyou come in try to flame just by changing the next message and making it counter the message before it. you are starting to look like a troller.

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id love to stay on subject, all i wanted was some Mdef templates being used and i get two out of like ten responses to that question.

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MDef / LS 0444 / Enh 3002 / Heal 4000 - If you really want MDef and LS x444 and also a pretty well-rounded template.

Other options would be:
MLS / MDef / Enh 0002 / Heal 3000
MLS / MDef / Enh 2000 / Heal 3000
MLS / MDef / Enh 3000 / Heal 2000
MLS / MDef / Heal 4040
MLS / MDef / Heal 4004
MLS / MDef / Enh 4004

But those all focus fully on damage dealing and defense, and either lack crowd control, Force management or healing.

Message Edited by Eskie on 09-12-2005 04:31 PM

Do you really *have* to keep xx4x LS? cant you swap them for 2h mods? Its eating up 20sp that could be used much better in a MDEF template, more enhancer or some better healing for example.

mdef/0444ls/enhancer 3002/healer 4 works exceedingly well for me, its awesome pve, and vs MLS/Mdef/xxx2enh/3xxxhealer templates in pvp they run out of mind alot faster than me thanks to the aditional 500pt heals so all around I thoroughly enjoy this temp, especially when someone your pvping sees the fight isnt going their way and well... lets just say nothing strikes morepanic into your opponents than being rooted 2ms from some dood juiced up on force speed + AI when they're out of mind

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Saereth wrote:
mdef/0444ls/enhancer 3002/healer 4 works exceedingly well for me, its awesome pve, and vs MLS/Mdef/xxx2enh/3xxxhealer templates in pvp they run out of mind alot faster than me thanks to the aditional 500pt heals so all around I thoroughly enjoy this temp, especially when someone your pvping sees the fight isnt going their way and well... lets just say nothing strikes morepanic into your opponents than being rooted 2ms from some dood juiced up on force speed + AI when they're out of mind

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This is the temp I am grinding, but thinking of dropping ls 0040 after I am done drinding the majority of it. Thinking of picking up enh 0040 line for state def increase.

I'm have the same issues, and with roots from 80m away you often get a gang picking on low hanging fruit...

The old Jessie template works well with foods mls, mdef, 4004 enh, FR2 helps off set the snare/ get- away problem time your stim and the ranged help wont effect your get away with those melee folks left trotting. This is best if you have a good saber tho. You can normally incap and DB one attacker before you make your escape.

I have the same precurb double and since saber speed is broken, am toying with the 444 ls, mdef, 4200enh, 3000hlr. Im enhancer now and defenders just don't use the force I do. You can move FA to channel if it don't work for you. The FR2 is essential for an AI get away, The only thing that worries me is loss of accuracy. Tossing a stim in with heals give plenty of heal power for normal pveing. That left hand tree is a must for BH times, root and Combat haste, gotta get them close and especially if you give up the KD saber throw.

Currently MLS/MEH/3000hlr/0020def. This was good and generally fun till Stasis took a big hit missing and timered, and for the most part easily broken by duels or mobs or your own panicked team.

Let me know what you decide.

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zaush wrote:

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Saereth wrote:
mdef/0444ls/enhancer 3002/healer 4 works exceedingly well for me, its awesome pve, and vs MLS/Mdef/xxx2enh/3xxxhealer templates in pvp they run out of mind alot faster than me thanks to the aditional 500pt heals so all around I thoroughly enjoy this temp, especially when someone your pvping sees the fight isnt going their way and well... lets just say nothing strikes morepanic into your opponents than being rooted 2ms from some dood juiced up on force speed + AI when they're out of mind

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This is the temp I am grinding, but thinking of dropping ls 0040 after I am done drinding the majority of it. Thinking of picking up enh 0040 line for state def increase.

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