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Thread: The Windu Warrior Template Guide (MLS, MD, H 3000, Enh 0002)

SWGHottie
Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:52 am
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JediJamie wrote:




tuffness55 wrote: so your saying the FOTM is a good template....who would of thought



No I am posting this so that SWGHottie can add it to his Template guide post..


SWGHottie's Template Guide Post

Message Edited by JediJamie on 07-03-200508:52 AM




Yup, and I just added it.


Good work, and keep it updated. Make sure you add info based on my suggestions in my sticky thread.



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Toront
Wed Jul 06, 2005 1:15 am
#28

I had this template and recently switched to the "Speed" version, moving from 0002 enh to 2000. Suppression, Force Speed and Basic Force Run are three really strong specials! I admit to being a channel junkie myself, however if you have friends with meditate or channel force, you can usally be replenished fairly quickly. You mention yourself that your force usage in this template is quite low. I am able to get away with no channel just because of the longevity of this template.


The best thing about my variant: MLS with force speed. Shorter windup on the interruptable power attack and just over all better DPS will send your foes into a healing cycle of doom.


The second best thing: Force run with no damage mitigation makes those kiting BHs sorry they came after you


I'll admit that I really miss channel, as force regen is really slow. However I find that I so rarely run out of force in PvP that channel became an inefficient use of skill points while looking at PvP (and as someone looking to get into the FRS once it's back, that's my number one concern).





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Yoiaholic1
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:02 am
#29




aose wrote:
its sickening seeing 90% of the jedi population are defenders. Mostly master defenders.. We need to go back to the jedi trees before pub 9




lol so everyone has every skill? I think variety is cool. If you want to have defenses you get MDEF if you want to have others ablities you take them. People with Defender still have to give up other things. There are lots of fun powers out there. You can't get them all. I know half the non defenders whine and the other half talk about how they are proud to be non defender. More power to you.



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Kev0r
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:08 am
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JediJamie wrote:

























  • Healer 3000- This Healing ability will grant you Improved Force Infusion and a Force Heal that does 1000 per hit. This Improved Force Infusion works beast if you have made it into a macro and have it looped over and over. Since the adding of the mind cost to these skills I have also been taking some D-stims out with me just to help from time to time. I can say that with the D-stims combined with the 1000 heal and Improved Force Infusion I have done just fine with this template and these healing abilities



Well done for reinforcing what I have been telling my server friends for a long time; mind cost doesn't hold you back if you play healer properly. I have been working on this template since the CU, and find that improved infusion, 1000 point heals and a pack of Stim Ds are fine for group PVE.




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Biffhammer
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:09 am
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I've been thinking alot about my template. yes my template right now is the same as what the poster gave us, but nowadays with crappy heals, I was thinking about leaving channel force with enhancer and going with force speed instead. My reasoning is this: Everytime you channel force your health bar goes lower, but regenerates at a steady speed, for the force it restores its not really enough to do much in a fight, so you have to channel a few other times. With your health bar low now, you have to watch it more closely and you have to heal more. Which may actually result in you wasting your mind alot faster. However on the other hand, if I have force speed, and I'm hitting at a faster rate, especially with MLS, I will then drain my foes mind pretty damn fast. Anyone have any opinions to this idea?
Soy_Nimlas
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:24 am
#32
i got this temp and it really rocks 



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                        Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:25 am
                    

                    
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Toront wrote:




I had this template and recently switched to the "Speed" version, moving from 0002 enh to 2000. Suppression, Force Speed and Basic Force Run are three really strong specials! I admit to being a channel junkie myself, however if you have friends with meditate or channel force, you can usally be replenished fairly quickly. You mention yourself that your force usage in this template is quite low. I am able to get away with no channel just because of the longevity of this template.




The best thing about my variant: MLS with force speed. Shorter windup on the interruptable power attack and just over all better DPS will send your foes into a healing cycle of doom.




The second best thing: Force run with no damage mitigation makes those kiting BHs sorry they came after you 




I'll admit that I really miss channel, as force regen is really slow. However I find that I so rarely run out of force in PvP that channel became an inefficient use of skill points while looking at PvP (and as someone looking to get into the FRS once it's back, that's my number one concern).














With 4 million points banked, I can switch back and forth from Enh xxx2 to Enh 2xxx three times. Might try this...



								



								


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                    Gully311
                

                

                    

                        Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:29 am
                    

                    
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I've been thinking of getting this myself.




My problem comes in Enhancer... 2000 vs. 0002




Enh 2000 you get Force Speed, Force Run, and Force Supression: I use all these skills quite often. Supression is the best for kiting BHers, they root u, u root them, then saberthrow em a couple of times to keep em honest. I'd miss all these skills terribly if I went with Channel.




Enh 0002you get Channel. Now while Channel may be great for PvE... I find it to be not as good for PvP, at least not as useful as the other 3 skills are. If I have to Channel towards the end of a fight, it makes things difficult because after 2 channels I have burned all my action and mind and have only gotten back about 10% of my Force. Maybe if I got 20% back I'd think it was more worth it.




Right now I'm LS 0424/Master Defender/Heal 4000/Enh 2003 working up to LS 0444. I had the Sap line in Heal but I found that after the nerf the skill wasn't as useful as before. I decided I missed an area attack terribly and decided to go with the Double Bladed line to be able to do area damage. 




If I do decide to go with the Lightsaber/Defender Double Mastery I'll probably stick with Heal 3000/Enh 2000 to back it up.




Either way it's a tough decision, but MLS is way too attractive and I swear by Master Defender as I love being a tank.



								



								


							
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                    duurron
                

                

                    

                        Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:43 am
                    

                    
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frisbee_j wrote:












tuffness55 wrote:
so your saying the FOTM is a good template....who would of thought 













MD/MLS isn't FOTM, 0404 LS/MDis. 
















								



								


							
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                    MrSeizure
                

                

                    

                        Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:32 pm
                    

                    
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I have to disagree with this being a Windu like template. 




That force lightning tore Mace up, he is obviously not a MD.




Mace was also very fast with a LS he obviously has ENH3000 for force speed 2.








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                        Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:20 am
                    

                    
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sweet guide, im going md,mls, healer 4xxx and some force run since if ur using all that force to try to stay alive and u need to use channel force, its pretty much a losing fight anyway, i think ill get a bunch of holocrons and put them in my inventory for emergency use.



								



								


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                        Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:39 am
                    

                    
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                I love this temp. Thanks


								



								


							

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                    Quickfire04
                

                

                    

                        Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:54 am
                    

                    
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paolo_ikro wrote:

  
  
  Zalbocca wrote:
This is actually the template I had since the CU and I have to say I absolutly love it. Some ppl say Force armor is better than DEF but they are wrong, Us Mdef dont have to pay precious Force points for our defenses. Also +25 Saber Deflection with Improved Force Valor really helps alot.   

  
  

I would disagree with this.  MLS/ME will cut through a MLS/MD template in no time at all.  The weakness of a MLS/MD is the lack of speed in comparison, unfortunately you will have a tough time against an Enhancer who knows how to play his template.



I disagree, a MLS/MEnhancer that gets armor broke takes a ridiculous amount of damage, but a MDefender has the ability to hit AI then concentrate on dishing out damage. While the enhancer concetrates on healing.
Message Edited by Quickfire04 on 07-10-2005 12:55 PM


								



								


							

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