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Thread: I know you dont want to hear this...but its comming next...

Kev0r
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:00 am
#14






KRAKEN666 wrote:


All those nice pre cu pearls and crystals....will be reset to retune at post cu levels. This will be the final axe blade to fall to get jedi to quit this game. My prediction, by the end of the year if this patch doesnt thin out the jedi population.






And this is a problem because.....?


Too many of you guys have been crying that post CU jedi ahve rubbish pearls compared to pre CU. I think it's highly likely that all pearls will be reset to about 60/60 -5FC, making everyone on the same level for the FRS. Therefore, we will all have to same chances to loot better pearls, even premiums, in order to have a level playing field.


The real pity is that so many of the crybabies see this as SOE's war against the jedi......while the silent majority just get on with enjoying the game and leave the rest of you to cry and be pessimistic on the forums



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ImperialObserver101
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:01 am
#15



chlaos wrote:


Lokanai wrote:
They have already stated that they will not change the pearls



And we all know they never go back on what they have said.....





UM actually they NEVER GO back on anything the say, when its a good or bad thing, they never go back, besides once or twice when they know they really fkd up, (Exp and action cost for healing)

it was stated already pre cu pearls ,lightsabers are fine and will not be touched at all.



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CaptainWinkii
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:02 am
#16






Lokanai wrote:
They have already stated that they will not change the pearls





Yea....i would hang on every word they ever said....



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sli-aib
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:02 am
#17


Lol did you actually read what TIggs said Quebec? Or is that wishful thinking on your part?


Premium Pearls Currently, Premium Pearls do not drop. We will bring them back into the game once we figure out a favorable implementation of these special items; there is not specific ETA for this change and all players that have the old Premium Pearls will get to keep them in the interim.

Message Edited by sli-aib on 10-20-2005 01:03 PM

KRAKEN666
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:06 am
#18



this gimp of pearls will be one of the last purges of jedi. Someone called me a hacker, and yes, I have been working with computers since 1977, but you dont have to hack tre files to know whats going on at soe. Whether they know it or not, and i doubt that they do, soe is using an ancient mammoth hunting technique. Eliminate all options of escape or defense, panic the herd so they have to run in one direction, and run them off a cliff to their deaths while driving them all the way. Sound familiar?

SOE knows exactly what they are doing and beleive me, I am sure their lawyers on retainers have been working for their money the last 6 months. SOE can suspend your accounts for infraction of game user rules, (which we will more and more of), will susspend your use of the forums, (your only voice, which you will see more and more of), and if you susspend your character, they have no obligation to keep you in their system, (which you will see the most of).


Guys, in any business you are nothing but a prediction of how long youare viable to them...well, 2 plus years later you are more of a liability to them because you understand the system and will expect more as far as game content from them. Content that they have to pay people to develope and write. They dont want us here anymore, its evident through unneccesary nerfs that are soley designed to run you off the cliff and out of their hair. In short fellow jedi, we are like thattroulblesome aunt thats a 100 years old, they want us to pass on to the other side so we wont burden them anymore.


to add an edit...for the person who talked about pearl drops, yeah, they will come back but the rarity of them will be rediculous. they are doing nothing but setting this game for jedi up for the next wave of village grinders. we are nothing to them but well educated game players who demand, and actually deserve more. They will only take this game so far and we are looking at the dead end street sign now.

Message Edited by KRAKEN666 on 10-20-2005 05:11 AM

ImperialObserver101
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:06 am
#19

i must of missed the last bit then, but she didnt say tuned, she just said old premium pearls , didnt say anything about already tuned pearls



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---Hikeran Redwolf--------Arteous Hatebringer----------Peimei
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-----Jedi at a Time"---------------Pre-cu Jedi Knight-------No i won't Cyber You ^_^
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CaptainWinkii
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:06 am
#20






sli-aib wrote:


Lol did you actually read what TIggs said Quebec? Or is that wishful thinking on your part?


Premium Pearls Currently, Premium Pearls do not drop. We will bring them back into the game once we figure out a favorable implementation of these special items; there is not specific ETA for this change and all players that have the old Premium Pearls will get to keep them in the interim.


Message Edited by sli-aib on 10-20-2005 01:03 PM





Translation:



We took them out to nerf the Jedi but didnt want to come out and say that. We wont be putting them back into live.





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The official Smack Talk of the new Combat 'Upgrade'
"BOOM!!! HEADSWING!!!111!!!0|\|E!!!E|_E|_VE|\|!!!"



Kev0r
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:16 am
#21






KRAKEN666 wrote:



this gimp of pearls will be one of the last purges of jedi. Someone called me a hacker, and yes, I have been working with computers since 1977, but you dont have to hack tre files to know whats going on at soe. Whether they know it or not, and i doubt that they do, soe is using an ancient mammoth hunting technique. Eliminate all options of escape or defense, panic the herd so they have to run in one direction, and run them off a cliff to their deaths while driving them all the way. Sound familiar?

SOE knows exactly what they are doing and beleive me, I am sure their lawyers on retainers have been working for their money the last 6 months. SOE can suspend your accounts for infraction of game user rules, (which we will more and more of), will susspend your use of the forums, (your only voice, which you will see more and more of), and if you susspend your character, they have no obligation to keep you in their system, (which you will see the most of).


Guys, in any business you are nothing but a prediction of how long youare viable to them...well, 2 plus years later you are more of a liability to them because you understand the system and will expect more as far as game content from them. Content that they have to pay people to develope and write. They dont want us here anymore, its evident through unneccesary nerfs that are soley designed to run you off the cliff and out of their hair. In short fellow jedi, we are like thattroulblesome aunt thats a 100 years old, they want us to pass on to the other side so we wont burden them anymore.


to add an edit...for the person who talked about pearl drops, yeah, they will come back but the rarity of them will be rediculous. they are doing nothing but setting this game for jedi up for the next wave of village grinders. we are nothing to them but well educated game players who demand, and actually deserve more. They will only take this game so far and we are looking at the dead end street sign now.

Message Edited by KRAKEN666 on 10-20-2005 05:11 AM




While I read this, I imagine Mel Gibson in "Conspiracy Theory" sat at his desk typing away....it makes my day more interesting



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Digitalalchemyzt
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:18 am
#22


You guys he is right. The current pearls are "interim", as they put it cuz i read the same article. You do know what that means right?


Bascially temporary...not a conspiracy. this was actually said.

TigerJedi01
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:22 am
#23






Kev0r wrote:





KRAKEN666 wrote:



this gimp of pearls will be one of the last purges of jedi. Someone called me a hacker, and yes, I have been working with computers since 1977, but you dont have to hack tre files to know whats going on at soe. Whether they know it or not, and i doubt that they do, soe is using an ancient mammoth hunting technique. Eliminate all options of escape or defense, panic the herd so they have to run in one direction, and run them off a cliff to their deaths while driving them all the way. Sound familiar?

SOE knows exactly what they are doing and beleive me, I am sure their lawyers on retainers have been working for their money the last 6 months. SOE can suspend your accounts for infraction of game user rules, (which we will more and more of), will susspend your use of the forums, (your only voice, which you will see more and more of), and if you susspend your character, they have no obligation to keep you in their system, (which you will see the most of).


Guys, in any business you are nothing but a prediction of how long youare viable to them...well, 2 plus years later you are more of a liability to them because you understand the system and will expect more as far as game content from them. Content that they have to pay people to develope and write. They dont want us here anymore, its evident through unneccesary nerfs that are soley designed to run you off the cliff and out of their hair. In short fellow jedi, we are like thattroulblesome aunt thats a 100 years old, they want us to pass on to the other side so we wont burden them anymore.


to add an edit...for the person who talked about pearl drops, yeah, they will come back but the rarity of them will be rediculous. they are doing nothing but setting this game for jedi up for the next wave of village grinders. we are nothing to them but well educated game players who demand, and actually deserve more. They will only take this game so far and we are looking at the dead end street sign now.

Message Edited by KRAKEN666 on 10-20-2005 05:11 AM




While I read this, I imagine Mel Gibson in "Conspiracy Theory" sat at his desk typing away....it makes my day more interesting






QFE



i can just see SOE removing their largest in-game player base. yeah it makes total sense. "lets remove all the jedi, and their alts, so there is basically noone left to play the game"






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Tactical_Dave
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:28 am
#24

I wouldn't be surprised if pearls/crystals got the shaft soon. Since they are making Krayt's almost impossible and lowering NPC's CL, you can expect the drop rate on anything decent to drop.


On the other hand, if they do that, I would expect you would see higher damage output attained through the saber crafting itself. Pearls/Crystals might become the equivalent of short-term power-ups after that.


This is nothing I've seen any data about whatsoever, so I don't want to start any rumors. It's just a wild guess, people.





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KRAKEN666
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:31 am
#25

tiger I see the logic in your post but you are not taking into effect that soe doesnt care about the largest player base because we will cost them more in the long run than we are worth...For end game jedi to remain in the game means that we will demand more content to be added to a game. You know, you can put a 427 semi hemi in a volkswagen, but the vw is only going to go so fast reguardless of the engine. To add more content means you have to keep a large staff of programmers, developers, and producers and you have to pay them. The cu should have taught you one thing, money talks in mmorpg worlds. I hope you see the business decisions why this is happening. To be honest, it would mean alot more if this was comming from a soe employee instead of a fellow frustrated vetern jedi. But since soe hasnt the guts to actually stand up and tell us we will have to do it for them.
BukuJohnson
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:36 am
#26


KRAKEN666 wrote:
All those nice pre cu pearls and crystals....will be reset to retune at post cu levels. This will be the final axe blade to fall to get jedi to quit this game. My prediction, by the end of the year if this patch doesnt thin out the jedi population.
Go ahead and call me a troll or a rumor starter, but if you read my posts regularly you will see that most of the nerfs, including the stealth regular weapons nerf, I predicted over a month ago. This post isnt to anger anyone, it effects me tremendously, but if we start now to be aware of where soe is going not with the game, but with us, we might have some defenses to argue.

Message Edited by KRAKEN666 on 10-20-2005 04:24 AM





Based on what Tiggs said, and the way she said it I do believe that premiums will be back, and that our old components will change.

The question is whether or not they feel that Saber damage values need to be reduced. Personally I don't see the need for the damage values to be reduced as a perfect Jedi weapon has and always be much harder to obtain than any other weapon.

The reason I think they will change is because we have SAC as a value on all pearls, but they all currently read 0. When Premiums are reimplemented I believe that they will also be activating the SAC values on them.

The question is how they will do that. Will the addition of the SAC modifier require a mandatory retuning of all existing saber components, or will all currently tuned components be assigned a set SAC value like they did with our converted sabers?

Unlike the weapon/powers nerf that I got busted by Blixtev for posting, this change will likely be client side and not be in the TRE files to give us any advance warning. My suggestion for the last eight weeks or so has been to hold on to all of your saber components just in case a retune is mandated.



Buku
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Message Edited by BukuJohnson on 10-20-2005 05:37 AM

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