Jedi Archive
Thread: new AI system is a JOKE
EnderStarfall
Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:20 pm
#14
Stop complaining that they use Force Powers lol Its fun. Adds another whole aspect for PvE combat for me and it rock. Learn your templates limitations and its strengths. If you dont have the skills like Force Shield or Force Feedback dont take these NPCs on your own. Get a friend for back up that does. Simple as that.
xEPICx
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:34 am
#15
Blaakhammer wrote:
hmm seems to me that right now only BH'S can take marks and loot uber CA'S and AA'S..this means basicly that JEDI are removed from that option..which means that BH own the CA market...are u pissing and moaning because now jedi might be the only ones that can loot their own crystals?..at least the only ones that MIGHT have any quality....
Damn, i would give my left nut to see the dictionary thatSOE uses....balance must be defined somehing like..."the act of JEDI nerfdoom../to screw a JEDI../to take everything a JEDI needs to survive and make it lootable by everyone BUT JEDI".
BH is fun. You should try it.
geodude
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:37 am
#16
While I am against many of the changes bought with Publish 24, I personally like the changes to AI. First thing I did was to go to Dathomirto finda Nighsister Stalker ..... and got owned. Pve is nowfun and achallange again, and maybe
now the Devs will see some NPC's as worthy of dropping decent loot? We can only hope. We have certainly waited long enough.
Onsa
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:40 am
#17
DianaPrince wrote:
tHeRaBiDmOnKeY wrote:
has anyone tried force shield, force absorb, force feedback against these NPC's?
Yep, and it works about as well as sticking your tongue out at them or licking them.
The AI is seriously Feked...
I encounted a lvl 85 NS, that apparently had EVERY force skill mastered.
I would love to get the template options of the NPCs.
They were running Aura, had full defender like defenses, thrwoing a lightsaber of some sort, choking me, using high level lightning, force running while doing this, and they get a cool 30K ham.
My jedi couldn't put a dent in the hooker - after 5min of seeing no health going down, I gave up and tried to run.
She snared and rooted me, got away from that, managed to even get force run 2 on to get away, and had a freaking animal agro me and snare me, turned off my force run, NS caught me, and had another few minutes of beating on her, using every trick I had to survive, and then finally was able to get away by keeping her and the creature snareded and rooted.
This is a freaking ant farm. I would so fire the developers that let this go live. I would also find the developers and PR people that hide this information from upper level management.
Anyone high level read this? The project managers, PR people, and developers have kept 99% of the stuff from players from your eyes and ears!!!!
I aggree... they are the uber jedi.. the pre patch 9 jedi that had all jedi skills... that freaking ns had FR3 and NO DAMAGE REDUCTION!!!! AURA.. what i didn't see was force armor....
This is a real joke... really.... i agree with you that they should be templated.... that would make it a lot more fun and would let you practice a bit like PvPing... still.. i manged to beat her because of foods and buffs and other enhancements... but the difficulty has gone WAY UP....
i fought a dark jedi master level 90 (previoulsy level 113) and it managed to beat me in 2 strokes.... same as it took before with level 113. I tried to run away from it after the first blow by rooting it..... the thing FR3 and killed me in one strike!! jajajajaja I want to be a NS!! they should implement being a night sister AFTER you are a full templated jedi... so one more grind to finally get power... if they dont want to give FRS... give us something then....
TylerDarkman
Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:01 am
#18
what sucks is that I am sure none of the jedi defenses like Force Feedback or Absorb or any of those skills work against them either. They have force, but I cannot Force Drain them either.
Monumus
Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:42 am
#19
Astalker got my bike by throwing his hammer at me, gave me a bit of a shock 
SlaserX
Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:46 am
#20
They did a lot more force attacks which is understandable. But then i got to the spellweaver and guess what? FORCE FREAKING CHOKED ME!!!
Woah, you mean there is a difference between a level 81 mob on dantooine and a level 81 mob on tatooine other than the sprite? Uhwahhhhhh?
Zrystal
Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:51 am
#21
DianaPrince wrote:
tHeRaBiDmOnKeY wrote:
has anyone tried force shield, force absorb, force feedback against these NPC's?
Yep, and it works about as well as sticking your tongue out at them or licking them.
The AI is seriously Feked...
I encounted a lvl 85 NS, that apparently had EVERY force skill mastered.
I would love to get the template options of the NPCs.
They were running Aura, had full defender like defenses, thrwoing a lightsaber of some sort, choking me, using high level lightning, force running while doing this, and they get a cool 30K ham.
My jedi couldn't put a dent in the hooker - after 5min of seeing no health going down, I gave up and tried to run.
She snared and rooted me, got away from that, managed to even get force run 2 on to get away, and had a freaking animal agro me and snare me, turned off my force run, NS caught me, and had another few minutes of beating on her, using every trick I had to survive, and then finally was able to get away by keeping her and the creature snareded and rooted.
This is a freaking ant farm. I would so fire the developers that let this go live. I would also find the developers and PR people that hide this information from upper level management.
Anyone high level read this? The project managers, PR people, and developers have kept 99% of the stuff from players from your eyes and ears!!!!
That sounds insanely fun, barely surviving why are you complaining?
TylerDarkman
Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:55 am
#22
I can get the first KD in, after that, they are very hard to KD.
SoloBacca1
Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:56 am
#23
What hurts isnt the AI changes, thats only Content for PvE'er\s, the thing that hurst is the non-Jedi ability to do something even if they are carefully, and the thing that hurts us personaly is that they fix AI thingies on NPCs and Creature's and doesnt fix some of the Jedi Issue's...
TylerDarkman
Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:00 am
#24
seems as if the NPCs action regen is back up to +9999999999
Ged_FM
Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:21 am
#25
Well its nice the Angry bags are getting some of their NPC abilities back. Used to be they used specials all the time. But now that the AIs have gotten specials back and are more like a Player character its time to tone down the +30k HAM down to a Player characters 3k of HAM. Also the NPCs need to start following the same rules of timers and getting rooted from using certain specials.
Oh one other thing that folks might make note of. If the NPCs are using a melee or ranged weapon, then they should not be able to use force abilites to attack others with. The rules should apply to both NPC and players alike. Otherwise allow me to use a laser rifle and my Force abilities as well.
Prowlies a must see Clicky!
OvMan32
Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:29 am
#26
They should keep NPCs "temps" randomized. So one stalker could have MDef/Mpowers or something and another say spellweaver could have MLS/Mhealer so it adds some mystery as to what your going up against and you can judge their weakness and stregths and they dont just spam all master moves on you.
It wopuld be annoying facing a Mhealer/Mdef/MLS/Mpowers/MEnhancer NS. Also, the higher ranking the NS(slave<ranger>protector etc) the more "sp" they can have on their skills to be randomized. So a low-ranking NS could maybe only have enough for 1 master box and the next lvl up may have enough for a master and dabbling in another and so on. But elders and the queen will have tons of SP so it would make them really really hard to solo and would require planning to go up agaibst in a group, like its supposed to be but still keep the low-ranking NS near-soloable.