Jedi Archive
Thread: Cloak should be moved to Jedi Initiate
Burst run is your escape ability.
Its goingto get moved to the master box, or severely nerfed soon.
Its being abused by people who LOVEto PVP... but HATE to LOOSE.
MasterOfEverything wrote:
Ummm...is this the same guy who asked for Jedi missions to be moved to novice BH a couple months ago?
Nope, nice try though. Thanks for the bump.
X-Ray2 wrote:
MRKILL2000 wrote:
I think hundreds of cloaked jedi running around would ruin the game, I see your point about the afk getting killed thing, just do a /logout wait for 30secs and a bh can't get you. Force cloak is a fun skill I agree but moving it to the initiate box is a bit silly, It's a tier 4 skill and you can't give the most fun skill in the gamefor free like that.
Yeah I see what you are saying, but it is not for free. As it stands now, it is much harder to get Jedi than it is to complete your template. So you are not getting it for free, but as a reward for getting your Jedi. Honestly, after all the hard work of unlocking, the first time you actually play your Jedi you feel a little short changed.
I don't care how hard you claim it is to unlock Jedi by grinding out FS XP the cloak skill is in it's rightful place and if it moves anywhere it will most likelytrade places with Breach.
You want to have force cloak then you invest the 3.02 Jedi XP and 28 SP to get it. If that's too hard or not worth it to you then you don't deserve it.
FS XP is not difficult to get now compared to what it used to be but that's another matter. We didn't have no skills at all other then being able to use a training saber so why should you?
Exactly the attitude that is destroying our profession. I was Jedi before you registered btw.
Ialwysdie wrote:
X-Ray2 wrote:
MRKILL2000 wrote:
I think hundreds of cloaked jedi running around would ruin the game, I see your point about the afk getting killed thing, just do a /logout wait for 30secs and a bh can't get you. Force cloak is a fun skill I agree but moving it to the initiate box is a bit silly, It's a tier 4 skill and you can't give the most fun skill in the gamefor free like that.
Yeah I see what you are saying, but it is not for free. As it stands now, it is much harder to get Jedi than it is to complete your template. So you are not getting it for free, but as a reward for getting your Jedi. Honestly, after all the hard work of unlocking, the first time you actually play your Jedi you feel a little short changed.
I don't care how hard you claim it is to unlock Jedi by grinding out FS XP the cloak skill is in it's rightful place and if it moves anywhere it will most likelytrade places with Breach.
You want to have force cloak then you invest the 3.02 Jedi XP and 28 SP to get it. If that's too hard or not worth it to you then you don't deserve it.
FS XP is not difficult to get now compared to what it used to be but that's another matter. We didn't have no skills at all other then being able to use a training saber so why should you?
i hate being overt and have some jedi hit me with snare then run away and cloak or saber throw me and run away then cloak as im just tryin to go some place yet they dont fight lol just hit ya once and run over and ovre... im not sure if its just a prob with the timing it takes for u to put it on and off i think they should put a timer on it so u cant take it off and put it on in 1/2 a second again
X-Ray2 wrote:
Exactly the attitude that is destroying our profession. I was Jedi before you registered btw.
Do you want a medal or something? Do you think your special because you got yours first?
I could care less how long ago you got your Jedi or how you obtained it.
My attitude isn't destroying the profession it's lame suggestions like this that are trying to make the progression easier for those who don't want to put in the effort in to obtain certain skills.
it's simple you want Cloak invest the 28 SP and 3 million 20 thousand XP to get it. If it gimps your template well then it's not worth it now is it.
It also makes the FOTM Jedi templates overpowered. (This is what I think you really want)
Sit back and look at the bigger picture instead of trying to find more ways to make things easier or make your own template stronger then it should be.
OorabishKotor wrote:
iunno if this was said... but yeah cloak is fun but very annoying when jedi decide to harass you with it
Ialwysdie wrote:
X-Ray2 wrote:
Exactly the attitude that is destroying our profession. I was Jedi before you registered btw.
Do you want a medal or something? Do you think your special because you got yours first?
I could care less how long ago you got your Jedi or how you obtained it.
My attitude isn't destroying the profession it's lame suggestions like this that are trying to make the progression easier for those who don't want to put in the effort in to obtain certain skills.
it's simple you want Cloak invest the 28 SP and 3 million 20 thousand XP to get it. If it gimps your template well then it's not worth it now is it.
It also makes the FOTM Jedi templates overpowered. (This is what I think you really want)
Sit back and look at the bigger picture instead of trying to find more ways to make things easier or make your own template stronger then it should be.
Comment was made in response to your comment which I highlighted.........your assumption that just because I want this game to be fun I am a noob. I am looking at the bigger picture, if this game continues to have all of its fun nerfed to death because people want it "harder" (which in all reality is quite impossible) then people will stop playing this game and there will be nobody left to play with, then we will have a ORPG, yeah that's lots of fun. Hell I want everyone to be uber strong, battles would be much more interesting that's for sure.
X-Ray2 wrote:
Ialwysdie wrote:
X-Ray2 wrote:
Exactly the attitude that is destroying our profession. I was Jedi before you registered btw.
Do you want a medal or something? Do you think your special because you got yours first?
I could care less how long ago you got your Jedi or how you obtained it.
My attitude isn't destroying the profession it's lame suggestions like this that are trying to make the progression easier for those who don't want to put in the effort in to obtain certain skills.
it's simple you want Cloak invest the 28 SP and 3 million 20 thousand XP to get it. If it gimps your template well then it's not worth it now is it.
It also makes the FOTM Jedi templates overpowered. (This is what I think you really want)
Sit back and look at the bigger picture instead of trying to find more ways to make things easier or make your own template stronger then it should be.
Comment was made in response to your comment which I highlighted.........your assumption that just because I want this game to be fun I am a noob. I am looking at the bigger picture, if this game continues to have all of its fun nerfed to death because people want it "harder" (which in all reality is quite impossible) then people will stop playing this game and there will be nobody left to play with, then we will have a ORPG, yeah that's lots of fun. Hell I want everyone to be uber strong, battles would be much more interesting that's for sure.
You want to have fun like you say then invest the SP and XP to be able to have the skill to make the game fun.
Idont' think the Jedi profession should be any easier nor do i wish it to be any more difficult.
I would like to know where i called you a noob because i don't recall ever saying that in my post. You said you didn't like my attitude and that it's destroying the profession well that's your thinking.
I don't like your I unlocked Jedi before you started playing holier then thou attitude so i guess we are even.
Ialwysdie wrote:
You want to have fun like you say then invest the SP and XP to be able to have the skill to make the game fun.
Idont' think the Jedi profession should be any easier nor do i wish it to be any more difficult.
I would like to know where i called you a noob because i don't recall ever saying that in my post. You said you didn't like my attitude and that it's destroying the profession well that's your thinking.
I don't like your I unlocked Jedi before you started playing holier then thou attitude so i guess we are even.
X-Ray2 wrote:
Ialwysdie wrote:
You want to have fun like you say then invest the SP and XP to be able to have the skill to make the game fun.
Idont' think the Jedi profession should be any easier nor do i wish it to be any more difficult.
I would like to know where i called you a noob because i don't recall ever saying that in my post. You said you didn't like my attitude and that it's destroying the profession well that's your thinking.
I don't like your I unlocked Jedi before you started playing holier then thou attitude so i guess we are even.
"We didn't have no skills at all other then being able to use a training saber so why should you?" This one here, but I'm not trying to argue with you and I just told you how long I have been Jedi because according to this comment you think otherwise. Anyway we are even enough, lol no more personal arguing, I'm sorry if I offended you. It is the comment in general that I don't like, nothing against you personally.
I have invested everyone of my skill points, and to be honest, after awhile you just get bored with it. I have changed my template to everything but master defender because that's not my style. I would prefer them to add more skills to every profession on a constant basis and get rid of skills that are obviously useless. Every skill in this game should be equally uber and fun. And sincewe allknow that probably isnt going to happen, then I see no reason why every Jedi should not have the opportunity to have fun in this game.
Yeah i agree it was worded in a way to make it seem like it was directed towards you and that you were not a completed template. Proper wording should have been. "Jedi didn'thave no skills at all other then the ability to use a training saber so why should that change now" That would have been a better way of putting it.
I know what your saying. I've grinded my Master powers template because it is fun even though i'm not the solo powerhouse that I wish to be but manage ok. I'm in the process of changing my template but I will still be a Master powers Jedi as I love it regardless of it's lack in damage dealing. Regrinding out a template is not fun at all. I dread grinding at all TBH. But do like the sense that I worked for the skill and it wasn't just handed to me.
Putting cloak int he initiate box effects more then just Jedi being more fun and that's what i meant by the bigger picture and will undoubtedly create even more nerf cries to the Jedi profession.
The complaints over cloak get posted alot and in some cases it is really abused but I've made several suggestions on how that can be remedied without making the skill completely useless like most of the Nerf Criers want.