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Thread: New BH exploit? /sigh

Imperial_Reb
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:10 am
#14






JeebusCrisp wrote:
So even against an exploiting BH'er you still win WITHOUT exploiting?

Stop crying that Jedi are nerfed and underpowered.
Sounds like you should be happy.




are you mentaly retarded or dibilitated in any way? If so that may explain your idiotic post. Otherwise get lost troll.


When you've played jedi out, and player BH out, come back then.


You, Are a troll of the worst sort. A BH who belives all the rumours about jay'di'eye they hear without any inteligent interpretations of these.



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eddytheone
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:16 am
#15

I expect this can be done quite easily.. I have noticed that when you use any food there is a small delay from you applying the item, it dissappearing from your inventory and then applying as bonuses, below and to your HAM bars. This could possibly be exploited with a careful macro, having the spices on your toolbar then taking the next after the previous has dissappeared from your inventory but has not yet applied to your HAM bars




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DeadlyTedly
Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:58 am
#16

Just to feed the trolls and correct them a little bit:

1) I nowhere in my original post said that Jedi are underpowered or that BH are. This is not a cry nerf. I for one think that we are pretty balanced at the moment.

2) I have explained why I did not take a screenie. If you read my post correctly you will see the question mark in the post title. In the main body of the post there is a question as to whether anyone else has seen this and/or if it is an exploit.

3) I also stated that the one hit a second was not the thing I was asking about.

4) Again, I stated in my original post that I know that IF this is an exploit it is not limited to BH. I stated that the reason I posted here was because I experienced it in the context of a BH attack. Perhaps I should have changed the post title to "BH's using new exploit?"

5) Last but not least I have had a couple of decent posts here, in particular the person suggesting that they might have used skill enhancers. That in fact is probably what happened, thankyou.

TO ALL THE REST OF YOU, READ THE ORIGINAL FRIGGIN POST.

EDIT: And how could it be interpreted as a whine? I beat him anyways...

Message Edited by DeadlyTedly on 09-05-2005 01:59 PM




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BoFa-ST
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:07 am
#17






Anarchicgorilla wrote:


the speed is not an exploit


speed = your modified speed X you special.


so if you modified is .59 (possible with pups and full tapes on a good weapon) and your special was adv critical - speed 1.7... that would be 1.7 x .59 before you can fire your next shot or 1



People will say speed caps at 1 this is not true.... the fastest you can fire another shot caps at 1. So your speed refresh rate is what caps at one... not your actual modified speed.


So on same weapon speed ,a ranged shot would fire 1.0 x .59 or .59 seconds... but it will cap at 1 and have to wait 1 second to fire again.



The spices .. I would say are you sure. some foods give same picture as some spices... so it is possible he was eating some foods you have not seen yet.





if what you said was true, how come with 1.26 mod speed saber, 164 to speed, and with doc buffs, there is still a 5-6 second gap between power attacks?



its becausewhat you explainis the time in which you can fire off a 'differnt' special. each special has its own cooldowns, being able to use the same one over and over every second (as the better specials have a longer cooldown) is the 'cheat' ppl reffer to. and any proff can do it.





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Chazzbass
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:13 am
#18






BountyHunterTHX1138 wrote:
this isnt a exploit... I can shoot every 2 seconds and I have no tapes(I am MRM/MBH). If I had a +25 Rifle Speed, FS Speed and a +25 General Speed I am sure you could shoot every second. Plus, if he adren buffs... Well you know, he'd surely shoot every second.




actually it is an exploit and i know exactly how it is done. it negates any cooldown timer btwn attacks so you can spam your most powerful attack every 1-2 seconds instead of the alternating attack to avoid the timer, you can also negate the timer on heals and channel etc, it is most definitely an exploit.

Message Edited by Chazzbass on 09-05-2005 07:15 AM

KrisKross
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:17 am
#19

You know you're doing it when you hit powerattack every 2 seconds with 0404 LS lol




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Jedi_Xan
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:23 am
#20

omg, blah blah, everything's an exploit, blah blah.... come on people. stop with the conspiracy theories.


I am an MBH/MRifle and Pistols. I also have ranged speed and accuracy if the FS branches (uhm, which work really well, btw). But, I also have +25 in general ranged speed tapes on my armor and clothes. Trust me, I can hit you really fast and really hard. May lowest damage on my current rifle is 900 (ranged attack). I can default ranged attack and hit about once a sec at 900 damage. The new rifle is even harder than this one, and it is sac capped almost + a -23% sac reducing pup with -8 accuracy.



Now, add the foods that boost combat speed, and the speed slice on the gun. It can be done, m8. These new components are making some very dangerous weapons.



also, some spice do stack. I think I can hit pixie, muon, and giggledust. Each has a different effect. There is also food pairs that stack very well together, and compliment each other well. Their effects appear the same, however they are very different.






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wildcat84
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:25 am
#21

I thought only Jedi were dirty `sploiters and BH's were pure as the wind driven snow?

I do know that there is an exploit with Ruby Bliel and stim D's (that I don't know how it works) but I've heard of BH's using it to heal at an insane rate.

Personally I'd never exploit. Exploiting can get your character deleted. It took me 8 months to get full template Jedi, and I'm not about to risk that.

Logic suggests that the BH's (who can open a new account and regrind in a week) have less to lose and would be more likely to risk exploiting.

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Jedi_Xan
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:32 am
#22






wildcat84 wrote:
I thought only Jedi were dirty `sploiters and BH's were pure as the wind driven snow?

I do know that there is an exploit with Ruby Bliel and stim D's (that I don't know how it works) but I've heard of BH's using it to heal at an insane rate.

Personally I'd never exploit. Exploiting can get your character deleted. It took me 8 months to get full template Jedi, and I'm not about to risk that.

Logic suggests that the BH's (who can open a new account and regrind in a week) have less to lose and would be more likely to risk exploiting.

Message Edited by wildcat84 on 09-05-2005 10:27 AM




It is not an exploit. You pop a stim d, then take ruby. You pop a stim, and take another stim in 30 secs. That is about 3600 heal in one minute.

HOWEVER.... depending on stomach fill, etc, sometimes you cannot take the ruby again, and after the 30 secs, you still have to wait another minute (or more if full).


Not an exploit, just something that we BH with no healing have learned to do that keeps up alive.



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Anarchicgorilla
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:56 am
#23









BoFa-ST wrote:





Anarchicgorilla wrote:


the speed is not an exploit


speed = your modified speed X you special.


so if you modified is .59 (possible with pups and full tapes on a good weapon) and your special was adv critical - speed 1.7... that would be 1.7 x .59 before you can fire your next shot or 1



People will say speed caps at 1 this is not true.... the fastest you can fire another shot caps at 1. So your speed refresh rate is what caps at one... not your actual modified speed.


So on same weapon speed ,a ranged shot would fire 1.0 x .59 or .59 seconds... but it will cap at 1 and have to wait 1 second to fire again.



The spices .. I would say are you sure. some foods give same picture as some spices... so it is possible he was eating some foods you have not seen yet.





if what you said was true, how come with 1.26 mod speed saber, 164 to speed, and with doc buffs, there is still a 5-6 second gap between power attacks?



its becausewhat you explainis the time in which you can fire off a 'differnt' special. each special has its own cooldowns, being able to use the same one over and over every second (as the better specials have a longer cooldown) is the 'cheat' ppl reffer to. and any proff can do it.








Your right on the "back to back" same special... I was refering to being able to do something like ADV.Critical / Torso shot back to back every second.


How the timer works for same shot back to back:

Modified speed X special speed+ modified speedX special speed


So to the sabers and BH's that can do their best special back to back every two seconds ... This is not an exploit if your speed makes your special below one.


Example imp saber head hit... dmg 1.9 timer 1.6 (samefor imp leg shot for BH)


1.6 x .62 (again with full tapes/ FS speed/ pups possible) = .098


This would cap at 1 so you can fire the next shot, if different, in 1 second..


Back to back would be 1.6 X .62 + 1.6 X .62 or 1 + 1 = 2 seconds (again i put pups becuase I donot know how a saber can have a modifed speed at .62)



Doc buffs are added on a difffent part of the equation .. I cannot rember the exact equation for the doc part.. however I do remeber it in the demonator of equation and caps at 1 .. so the best it does is not slow down your attack


1 (for the modified speed above) / 1 (cap for doc buffs and combat speed) = 1



For your 1.26 modifed speed


lets say you do imp saber head


1.6 X 1.26or 2.016+ 1.6 X 1.26 or 2.016 for back to back this means you have to wait 4.032 seconds before you can back to back


So why you wait 5-6 seconds is that 4.032 can seem like that. Add in a 1 second lag from time to time and it explains your 5's and 6's for seconds for back to back




Also this if for head (which is fast time)


dervish time is 1.9

imp power is 1.7



so for power it would be 4.284 seconds and for dervish 4.788 seconds

Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 09-05-2005 10:18 AM

Message Edited by Anarchicgorilla on 09-05-2005 10:18 AM



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Eleutherios
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:58 am
#24






wildcat84 wrote:
I do know that there is an exploit with Ruby Bliel and stim D's (that I don't know how it works) but I've heard of BH's using it to heal at an insane rate.

Message Edited by wildcat84 on 09-05-2005 10:27 AM



Anyone who has StimDs and Ruby Bliel can do this, not just Bounty Hunters. Even Jedi can do it. It's not an exploit, it's an improperly-named food. Ruby Bliel gives you an instant stim for each one you pop, not 30 seconds, it's just an error in the text.




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DaniB
Mon Sep 05, 2005 7:58 am
#25






BountyHunterTHX1138 wrote:
this isnt a exploit... I can shoot every 2 seconds and I have no tapes(I am MRM/MBH). If I had a +25 Rifle Speed, FS Speed and a +25 General Speed I am sure you could shoot every second. Plus, if he adren buffs... Well you know, he'd surely shoot every second.





it is an exploit, a rifleman, master or not, cant repeatly shot the same special each second!
Anarchicgorilla
Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:04 pm
#26


the speed is not an exploit


speed = your modified speed X you special.


so if you modified is .59 (possible with pups and full tapes on a good weapon) and your special was adv critical - speed 1.7... that would be 1.7 x .59 before you can fire your next shot or 1



People will say speed caps at 1 this is not true.... the fastest you can fire another shot caps at 1. So your speed refresh rate is what caps at one... not your actual modified speed.


So on same weapon speed ,a ranged shot would fire 1.0 x .59 or .59 seconds... but it will cap at 1 and have to wait 1 second to fire again.



The spices .. I would say are you sure. some foods give same picture as some spices... so it is possible he was eating some foods you have not seen yet.



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