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Thread: Corpses and duels give Vis?

Jacella
Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:56 am
#14

Blame SWG's version of OnStar





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Xevin
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:13 am
#15

"jedi is weaker than most double eliete combat profs"



This is completely untrue. While some temp choices can make a Jedi a lesser Jedi in PvP, it is completely nonsence that the Jedi porffesion as a whole is weaker than Elite combat professions. If you think this is true then you are not playing your Jedi right in PvP. I reccomend you do some research on Jedi PvP, food choices, buffs and attachments.


I play Both a Jedi and BH and can tell you without doubt that Jedi are better than any Bounty Hunter Temp. That does not mean a really experienced Bounty Hunter cannot defeat some full temp Jedi. It also does not mean that Jedi have an I win button. Some of the Pr CU saber Jedi certainly come very close to an I win button though.


Some Jedi tree's like Powers need some serious work to be good in Jedi V Jedi PvP but if you pick the right Temps you are far more powerful than any Bounty Hunter Template currently available.


Both My Jedi and Bounty Hunter have PvP'd in every temp one could think up. I suggest you start with MLS and MDef if your having trouble and get the heal line in healing.


Aside from the Uber Sabers I would say Light Saber Jedi are at the right spot vs Bounty Hunters.
Jacella
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:14 am
#16






mauvros wrote:


You sir are a moron.






Let's look at this. You want to nerf the bounty hunter profession because your vehilce may be generating visibility...is that right?


Why not just ask the devs to fix visibility being gained from your bike...or simply put it away!


Your version of moron is skewed.





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iskareot
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:16 am
#17






Jacella wrote:





mauvros wrote:


You sir are a moron.






Let's look at this. You want to nerf the bounty hunter profession because your vehilce may be generating visibility...is that right?


Why not just ask the devs to fix visibility being gained from your bike...or simply put it away!


Your version of moron is skewed.






Oh Hell this is the best one I have seen in a while for Jedi issues... I mean almost a joke at this point.


I like that Onstar term ..lol freaking funny..


Both of my Parents cars have that..


"Good afternoon -EmpireStar for the win"



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mauvros
Mon Sep 19, 2005 9:26 am
#18






Jacella wrote:





mauvros wrote:


You sir are a moron.






Let's look at this. You want to nerf the bounty hunter profession because your vehilce may be generating visibility...is that right?


Why not just ask the devs to fix visibility being gained from your bike...or simply put it away!


Your version of moron is skewed.


"Solution: Store your bike."






I beg to differ. I think my version of moron couldnt be more right on.



Of course I want the devs to fix the bike visability, and I dont want to nerf BH's to get it done, but your solution of "Store your bike" is not the answer and im sorry to say is quite moronic.


SunSpy
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:03 am
#19






GlargTheKelfn wrote:
the bh missions dynamic is so beyond broken. forced pvp is a bad idea (hence it being removed from the gcw).






Yeah....made the GCW so much more immersive and fun to remove that terrible "forced pvp". Nothing more immersive and fun than going to the Emperors Retreat and watching Rebels farm stormtroopers in front of you with absolutely no recourse. The only people who advance this lame "forced pvp" argument are farmers who don't want their looting sprees interrupted and wimps who think every game should be completely safe and secure like some online version of chutes and ladders. And for the record...since you had to affirmatively do something to become pvp active in the old system (i.e. heal an overt, go overt, attack an npc or become a Jedi) it wasn't "forced". Only an idiot,somebody who was trying to do something they shouldn't or somebody who intended to became overt.



Mordah Darkwave

Rebel Pilot Ace/Retired Master Bounty Hunter
Jacella
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:06 am
#20






mauvros wrote:





Jacella wrote:





mauvros wrote:


You sir are a moron.






Let's look at this. You want to nerf the bounty hunter profession because your vehilce may be generating visibility...is that right?


Why not just ask the devs to fix visibility being gained from your bike...or simply put it away!


Your version of moron is skewed.


"Solution: Store your bike."






I beg to differ. I think my version of moron couldnt be more right on.



Of course I want the devs to fix the bike visability, and I dont want to nerf BH's to get it done, but your solution of "Store your bike" is not the answer and im sorry to say is quite moronic.







My droids give me vis...I store them before I activate force powers. My AT-ST generates vis...I store it before activating force powers. OR, I move 32 meters away and viola! No vis problem. How is this ANY different than bikes?


Moron? Hardly.









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Grunzer
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:08 am
#21






Jacella wrote:





mauvros wrote:


No.. what I think hes saying is that even when trying to play by the rules, stupid bugs like an MY OWN VEHICLE giving me vis is the problem.

Stop being a moron.









Ok...then why is your bike, that can be called instantly now, out when grinding lairs? Two things inherently wrong with this. 1. Having your bike out will just make the BH shoot the bike first. 2. It's completely unneeded to have a bike out when grinding a lair.


Solution: Store your bike.


or, should we ruin another profession and destroy the integrity of our own profession by removing all semblence of challenge and risk. You can't ask to be stronger than another profession if you don't have anything that earns you that right. The length of a grind is irrelevant, but that the power is offset by a risk, that is what enables you to have more strength.






And what do you propose to do about other players taking out their vehicles? Or how about the occasional drive by? your not just getting visibility from 1 person there, you're getting it from 2 people. Vehicles giving visibility is crazy.


How about having to fuss at your own guild members everytime they bring out their vehicle at the wrong moment? Seriously, who is going to want to group with you with all these silly rules you have to impart to them for the duration of the grind?

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SumaTrig
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:18 am
#22

Someone needs to test this. I have been grinding for weeks in group anoften someone will leave theirride out. I always store mine. In any case, I have yet to been hunted as a result. I really doubt that rides give vis. Someone needs to test it and prove it. The droid thing I am not sure of either. Your droid should not vis you IMO, if it does it's a bug IMO. Be that as it may, I never use a droid so it really doesn't matter. Might be more of an issue back when imps grouped with their ATSTs?





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Grunzer
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:19 am
#23

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1216767



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mauvros
Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:05 am
#24






Jacella wrote:





mauvros wrote:





Jacella wrote:





mauvros wrote:


You sir are a moron.






Let's look at this. You want to nerf the bounty hunter profession because your vehilce may be generating visibility...is that right?


Why not just ask the devs to fix visibility being gained from your bike...or simply put it away!


Your version of moron is skewed.


"Solution: Store your bike."






I beg to differ. I think my version of moron couldnt be more right on.



Of course I want the devs to fix the bike visability, and I dont want to nerf BH's to get it done, but your solution of "Store your bike" is not the answer and im sorry to say is quite moronic.







My droids give me vis...I store them before I activate force powers. My AT-ST generates vis...I store it before activating force powers. OR, I move 32 meters away and viola! No vis problem. How is this ANY different than bikes?


Moron? Hardly.







Your just helping my case here every time you reply.



A droid has intelligence. It can interpret the world around it and store that information and later report what it saw.

AT-ST are not robots, they are driven by clones or my some kind of life form. So having them see you using force is also understandable.


My speeder has no form of intelligence, so why and better yet HOW would my bike see or report anything?


Its stupid, and you are being stupid for supporting it.




Jacella
Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:13 am
#25

I never said I supported it, but I said that it is a factor in a game that causes visibility. There is a simple way to avoid this visibility : store your bike.


The facts are that bikes have supposedly been causing visibility. The mechanics of the game have made it so that unless your bike is 32 meters away or stored, you can gain visibility.


Truth be told, I feel that WHENEVER you use force powers, visibility should be gained. The Emperor can detect subtle changes in the force and can track down those ripples. So, I feel that all jedi should be perma-termed. Mine included.


You can complain about what causes visibility, but your reaction of nerfing another profession over it was misguided. If they want a visibility system that makes sense, then they should remove the ability for a bike or speeder to generate visibility. They should also remove it from vendors too. But they have already removed group visibility, removed xp loss from cloning, and removed names and payouts from terminals. This is a very minor problem. Store your bike.







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mauvros
Tue Sep 20, 2005 8:21 am
#26






Jacella wrote:

I never said I supported it, but I said that it is a factor in a game that causes visibility. There is a simple way to avoid this visibility : store your bike.


The facts are that bikes have supposedly been causing visibility. The mechanics of the game have made it so that unless your bike is 32 meters away or stored, you can gain visibility.


Truth be told, I feel that WHENEVER you use force powers, visibility should be gained. The Emperor can detect subtle changes in the force and can track down those ripples. So, I feel that all jedi should be perma-termed. Mine included.


You can complain about what causes visibility, but your reaction of nerfing another profession over it was misguided. If they want a visibility system that makes sense, then they should remove the ability for a bike or speeder to generate visibility. They should also remove it from vendors too. But they have already removed group visibility, removed xp loss from cloning, and removed names and payouts from terminals. This is a very minor problem. Store your bike.








A simple answer to a larger problem.I guess SOE will accept your application now, your perfect for the job.




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