Jedi Archive
Thread: They should turn off Jedi exp loss on Mustafar.
Chivi
Tue Oct 25, 2005 4:59 pm
#14
Teal_Lightstrider wrote:
How about we just turn off all xp loss, make bh hunt npcs only, and get back premium pearl drops??
Then when our profession gets so weak that we cannot even PvE well, we will look at each and wonder why.....somebody start a petition.
This guy gets it...wo0t...
Stay tuned...tonight I will be posting a very controversial suggestion to fix Jedi. TEH JESTER WILL RISE AGAIN!!
Luscio
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:14 pm
#15
UberNinjaOfDoom wrote:
Ok, what's going on on Mustafar is getting stupid. All the camping BH are doing nothing less then griefing. There is new content out there that people want to enjoy with their Jedi toons without having to deal with all the BH trying to score easy kills. (The content is challenging enough without them).
You got to be a special type of a person to want to ruin peoples fun during those first few days, when everyone is trying to enjoy and discover all the new stuff. So if you are a BH...take a break, go out there and do the quests yourself instead of hunting Jedi....don't be just another as#0!&$.
Back to the msg tittle though... I would love to see both Jedi exp loss, and Jedi exp turned off on this planet for at least few weeks.
ROFL. you got to be kidding. Post-CU get no xp loss from anything but bh's and even still you young jedi complain.
Chivi
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:15 pm
#16
UberNinjaOfDoom wrote:
I do not want for this to degenerate into another "carebear" VS. "uber l3t kiddie" thread, and why rewards have nothing to do with risk/work....
Gaining no exp on the planet would justify no exp loss, and let Jedi enjoy it more. In addition it would make an interesting experiment for BH, since you would not have a problem with Jedi trying to run from you. I also think that camping that new planet is crappy thing to do for any player..
First off, there is no other way to look at it than this. I'm sorry you can't look past your rose tinted glasses and see the bigger picture here, but it does not change the fact that you are advocating for the weakening of Jedi as a whole.
2 Years ago Jedi was a powerful class. As more people joined and they lessened the risk, they lessened the reward. The original Jedi weren't necessarily advocates of perma death or skill loss, however they enjoyed the power associated with it. Fast forward to today and we have people complaining about everything under the sun that disrupts their game experience, knowing full well that Jedi was the way it was.
There is no way that your goddamn feelings on this could be anything but a detriment to my profession. You and your kind (less I lumped you with the other whiners) are what is wrong with this game because you can't handle the e-difficulty. Go play a single player game and enjoy the easy level all you want.
Me? Bring back the difficulty and increase the risks.
Kael21
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:18 pm
#17
reauest DENIED
If you can't handle the possibility of getting killed by a bounty hunter there then you shouldn't be taking your jedi out there. It really is that simple. If you try to keep off the terminals, then keep off mustafar, there is nothing there to gain but vis.
Alicce
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:20 pm
#18
Chivi wrote:
UberNinjaOfDoom wrote:
I do not want for this to degenerate into another "carebear" VS. "uber l3t kiddie" thread, and why rewards have nothing to do with risk/work....
Gaining no exp on the planet would justify no exp loss, and let Jedi enjoy it more. In addition it would make an interesting experiment for BH, since you would not have a problem with Jedi trying to run from you. I also think that camping that new planet is crappy thing to do for any player..
First off, there is no other way to look at it than this. I'm sorry you can't look past your rose tinted glasses and see the bigger picture here, but it does not change the fact that you are advocating for the weakening of Jedi as a whole.
2 Years ago Jedi was a powerful class. As more people joined and they lessened the risk, they lessened the reward. The original Jedi weren't necessarily advocates of perma death or skill loss, however they enjoyed the power associated with it. Fast forward to today and we have people complaining about everything under the sun that disrupts their game experience, knowing full well that Jedi was the way it was.
There is no way that your goddamn feelings on this could be anything but a detriment to my profession. You and your kind (less I lumped you with the other whiners) are what is wrong with this game because you can't handle the e-difficulty. Go play a single player game and enjoy the easy level all you want.
Me? Bring back the difficulty and increase the risks.
totally agree.
Borr_Nahm
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:32 pm
#19
I'm first jedi and then MBH. 
But I can't disagree more. I think every jedi realizes by now that if you flash your little glowy in front of npcs, then you will get on the terminals pretty quickly. While it is annoying to be hunted and not be able to devote full attention to the new content, you do have a second character.
Or there is still the almost completely safe haven of kashyyk.
You were never promised it would be easy....the life of a Jedi. 
c0kes
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:35 pm
#20
Chivi wrote:
UberNinjaOfDoom wrote:
I do not want for this to degenerate into another "carebear" VS. "uber l3t kiddie" thread, and why rewards have nothing to do with risk/work....
Gaining no exp on the planet would justify no exp loss, and let Jedi enjoy it more. In addition it would make an interesting experiment for BH, since you would not have a problem with Jedi trying to run from you. I also think that camping that new planet is crappy thing to do for any player..
First off, there is no other way to look at it than this. I'm sorry you can't look past your rose tinted glasses and see the bigger picture here, but it does not change the fact that you are advocating for the weakening of Jedi as a whole.
2 Years ago Jedi was a powerful class. As more people joined and they lessened the risk, they lessened the reward. The original Jedi weren't necessarily advocates of perma death or skill loss, however they enjoyed the power associated with it. Fast forward to today and we have people complaining about everything under the sun that disrupts their game experience, knowing full well that Jedi was the way it was.
There is no way that your goddamn feelings on this could be anything but a detriment to my profession. You and your kind (less I lumped you with the other whiners) are what is wrong with this game because you can't handle the e-difficulty. Go play a single player game and enjoy the easy level all you want.
Me? Bring back the difficulty and increase the risks.
Want an explanation why Jedi got nerfed?
Because Jedi PvP.
Its not because of carebears, or useless petitions like you seem to think, is the fact that Jedi got involved in the GCW and that pissed off those without Jedi, wich in turn forced to more people to become Jedi just to PvP. And of course, our BH friends, that think hunting down and killing Jedi should be easier than killing a durni outside coronet.
Now you talk about the risk vs reward forumla.... well I'll be damned, butI just can't find the reward for the last 3 months, maybe it should be time to drop the risk as well.
What you are basically saying is that, Risk is ok for a Jedi, since thats the way it is, we can get our reward nerfed or remove it, but its ok, because thats the "Jedi way"...
Im against BH, XP loss and all that stuff you think makes Jedi so fun and special, but Im all into getting more hardcore penalties (Saber TEF, Skill loss, and all that crap) if that takes for my Jedi to be feared by non-Jedi. But looking at the situation of this game, I just can imagine how messed up would these penalities be, specially since BHs are completelly equal to Jedi now and dont have to bring a group of friends to actually kill one.
Chivi
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:44 pm
#21
c0kes wrote:
Chivi wrote:
UberNinjaOfDoom wrote:
I do not want for this to degenerate into another "carebear" VS. "uber l3t kiddie" thread, and why rewards have nothing to do with risk/work....
Gaining no exp on the planet would justify no exp loss, and let Jedi enjoy it more. In addition it would make an interesting experiment for BH, since you would not have a problem with Jedi trying to run from you. I also think that camping that new planet is crappy thing to do for any player..
First off, there is no other way to look at it than this. I'm sorry you can't look past your rose tinted glasses and see the bigger picture here, but it does not change the fact that you are advocating for the weakening of Jedi as a whole.
2 Years ago Jedi was a powerful class. As more people joined and they lessened the risk, they lessened the reward. The original Jedi weren't necessarily advocates of perma death or skill loss, however they enjoyed the power associated with it. Fast forward to today and we have people complaining about everything under the sun that disrupts their game experience, knowing full well that Jedi was the way it was.
There is no way that your goddamn feelings on this could be anything but a detriment to my profession. You and your kind (less I lumped you with the other whiners) are what is wrong with this game because you can't handle the e-difficulty. Go play a single player game and enjoy the easy level all you want.
Me? Bring back the difficulty and increase the risks.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! I can't stand it any longer...wheres my butter knife...
Don't think for one second it was the pvp. PvP had consequences when we died. Now it doesn't. Jedi has been slowly slipping and its because of people like the original poster. You are not helping the cause either because you've resigned yourself to mediocrity. Your type makes me sick.
Whiners, quitters, and carebears...OH MY...
But cheer up and take heart. I have the perfect solution to your issues and I'll be posting it tonight in these very forums on my primary account the second its unbanned in approx 5 hours and 40 mins.
Teal_Lightstrider
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:44 pm
#22
Too many people have full templated jedi now for it to go back to any other way. The more people accept that fact, the less whining there will be. I imagine most of the people on the jedi forums would be suprised at the actual number of ebays/giveaways of the original jedi knights/masters/pre-patch9ers. If you did all of your jedi xp in 3 weeks, please do not post again about how you lost to a bh.
c0kes
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:48 pm
#23
Chivi wrote:
c0kes wrote:
Chivi wrote:
UberNinjaOfDoom wrote:
I do not want for this to degenerate into another "carebear" VS. "uber l3t kiddie" thread, and why rewards have nothing to do with risk/work....
Gaining no exp on the planet would justify no exp loss, and let Jedi enjoy it more. In addition it would make an interesting experiment for BH, since you would not have a problem with Jedi trying to run from you. I also think that camping that new planet is crappy thing to do for any player..
First off, there is no other way to look at it than this. I'm sorry you can't look past your rose tinted glasses and see the bigger picture here, but it does not change the fact that you are advocating for the weakening of Jedi as a whole.
2 Years ago Jedi was a powerful class. As more people joined and they lessened the risk, they lessened the reward. The original Jedi weren't necessarily advocates of perma death or skill loss, however they enjoyed the power associated with it. Fast forward to today and we have people complaining about everything under the sun that disrupts their game experience, knowing full well that Jedi was the way it was.
There is no way that your goddamn feelings on this could be anything but a detriment to my profession. You and your kind (less I lumped you with the other whiners) are what is wrong with this game because you can't handle the e-difficulty. Go play a single player game and enjoy the easy level all you want.
Me? Bring back the difficulty and increase the risks.
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! I can't stand it any longer...wheres my butter knife...
Don't think for one second it was the pvp. PvP had consequences when we died. Now it doesn't. Jedi has been slowly slipping and its because of people like the original poster. You are not helping the cause either because you've resigned yourself to mediocrity. Your type makes me sick.
Whiners, quitters, and carebears...OH MY...
But cheer up and take heart. I have the perfect solution to your issues and I'll be posting it tonight in these very forums on my primary account the second its unbanned in approx 5 hours and 40 mins.
Meh... thats the truth and you know, you just want to deny it (and a lot of people in this forum as well).
But is fine, keep filling the forums with crap posts and edited quotes so you can feel better with your e-self tough boy.
Chivi
Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:58 pm
#24
c0kes wrote:Meh... thats the truth and you know, you just want to deny it (and a lot of people in this forum as well).
But is fine, keep filling the forums with crap posts and edited quotes so you can feel better with your e-self tough boy.
Alright smart guy, let me explain this really simple-like so you can understand it.
1. When there was perma-death Jedi was powerful and there were few that pvp'd
2. When there was skill loss Jedi was slightly weakened and there were more than a few that pvp'd
3. When there was xp loss Jedi was weakened some more and they had an influx of pvp'ers
4. When they removed xp loss from cloning Jedi was brought to the point we are now and there are hundreds (if not thousands)showing off and pvp'ing.
5. The purge has begun because every non-leet kiddie that can't hack it is whining and complaining about no reward for their uber risk.
I just don't see where you are coming from. They've slowly removed risks and deminished the rewards in conjunction to it. If you can't see that then no amount of common sense will slap you back in to reality.
On my server I'll explain it like this.
Perma-Death there was 1-2 of them pvp'ing that I knew of (and trust me I knew a lot of Jedi back then)
Skill loss there were about 6-8 of them pvp'ing that I knew of (and trust me I was pvping during this time as well)
XP loss they started coming out of the woodwork (as did I, why? because there was less risk)
No-XP loss they became as common as seeing BH'ers hunting out of Kadaara
But ultimately its your choice. If you want to support the dumbing down of my profession, all I can ask is that you delete your toon and leave the game.
abbink
Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:08 pm
#25
c0kes wrote:
Chivi wrote:
UberNinjaOfDoom wrote:
I do not want for this to degenerate into another "carebear" VS. "uber l3t kiddie" thread, and why rewards have nothing to do with risk/work....
Gaining no exp on the planet would justify no exp loss, and let Jedi enjoy it more. In addition it would make an interesting experiment for BH, since you would not have a problem with Jedi trying to run from you. I also think that camping that new planet is crappy thing to do for any player..
First off, there is no other way to look at it than this. I'm sorry you can't look past your rose tinted glasses and see the bigger picture here, but it does not change the fact that you are advocating for the weakening of Jedi as a whole.
2 Years ago Jedi was a powerful class. As more people joined and they lessened the risk, they lessened the reward. The original Jedi weren't necessarily advocates of perma death or skill loss, however they enjoyed the power associated with it. Fast forward to today and we have people complaining about everything under the sun that disrupts their game experience, knowing full well that Jedi was the way it was.
There is no way that your goddamn feelings on this could be anything but a detriment to my profession. You and your kind (less I lumped you with the other whiners) are what is wrong with this game because you can't handle the e-difficulty. Go play a single player game and enjoy the easy level all you want.
Me? Bring back the difficulty and increase the risks.
Want an explanation why Jedi got nerfed?
Because Jedi PvP.
Its not because of carebears, or useless petitions like you seem to think, is the fact that Jedi got involved in the GCW and that pissed off those without Jedi, wich in turn forced to more people to become Jedi just to PvP. And of course, our BH friends, that think hunting down and killing Jedi should be easier than killing a durni outside coronet.
Now you talk about the risk vs reward forumla.... well I'll be damned, butI just can't find the reward for the last 3 months, maybe it should be time to drop the risk as well.
What you are basically saying is that, Risk is ok for a Jedi, since thats the way it is, we can get our reward nerfed or remove it, but its ok, because thats the "Jedi way"...
Im against BH, XP loss and all that stuff you think makes Jedi so fun and special, but Im all into getting more hardcore penalties (Saber TEF, Skill loss, and all that crap) if that takes for my Jedi to be feared by non-Jedi. But looking at the situation of this game, I just can imagine how messed up would these penalities be, specially since BHs are completelly equal to Jedi now and dont have to bring a group of friends to actually kill one.
well said i agree 100%. The professions got dumbed down because of uber leet kiddies wanting to pwn everyone under the sun. If you havent figured that out yet or cant get your head around that truth then i dont know what to tell you. Dont blame carebears, blame the pvp exploiting elitests.
Chivi
Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:13 pm
#26
abbink wrote:
c0kes wrote:
Chivi wrote:
UberNinjaOfDoom wrote:
I do not want for this to degenerate into another "carebear" VS. "uber l3t kiddie" thread, and why rewards have nothing to do with risk/work....
Gaining no exp on the planet would justify no exp loss, and let Jedi enjoy it more. In addition it would make an interesting experiment for BH, since you would not have a problem with Jedi trying to run from you. I also think that camping that new planet is crappy thing to do for any player..
First off, there is no other way to look at it than this. I'm sorry you can't look past your rose tinted glasses and see the bigger picture here, but it does not change the fact that you are advocating for the weakening of Jedi as a whole.
2 Years ago Jedi was a powerful class. As more people joined and they lessened the risk, they lessened the reward. The original Jedi weren't necessarily advocates of perma death or skill loss, however they enjoyed the power associated with it. Fast forward to today and we have people complaining about everything under the sun that disrupts their game experience, knowing full well that Jedi was the way it was.
There is no way that your goddamn feelings on this could be anything but a detriment to my profession. You and your kind (less I lumped you with the other whiners) are what is wrong with this game because you can't handle the e-difficulty. Go play a single player game and enjoy the easy level all you want.
Me? Bring back the difficulty and increase the risks.
Want an explanation why Jedi got nerfed?
Because Jedi PvP.
Its not because of carebears, or useless petitions like you seem to think, is the fact that Jedi got involved in the GCW and that pissed off those without Jedi, wich in turn forced to more people to become Jedi just to PvP. And of course, our BH friends, that think hunting down and killing Jedi should be easier than killing a durni outside coronet.
Now you talk about the risk vs reward forumla.... well I'll be damned, butI just can't find the reward for the last 3 months, maybe it should be time to drop the risk as well.
What you are basically saying is that, Risk is ok for a Jedi, since thats the way it is, we can get our reward nerfed or remove it, but its ok, because thats the "Jedi way"...
Im against BH, XP loss and all that stuff you think makes Jedi so fun and special, but Im all into getting more hardcore penalties (Saber TEF, Skill loss, and all that crap) if that takes for my Jedi to be feared by non-Jedi. But looking at the situation of this game, I just can imagine how messed up would these penalities be, specially since BHs are completelly equal to Jedi now and dont have to bring a group of friends to actually kill one.
well said i agree 100%. The professions got dumbed down because of uber leet kiddies wanting to pwn everyone under the sun. If you havent figured that out yet or cant get your head around that truth then i dont know what to tell you. Dont blame carebears, blame the pvp exploiting elitests.
You guys are about as smart as a bag of hammers. I say about because hammers have enough common sense to not open their mouths and prove their stupidity.
Jedi was and still is a pvp class. It is the only class that can be hunted 24/7 provided conditions are met. Its the only class that was made permanently overt. Its the only class that centers 100% around combat.
With that said...again, its not about the pvp, its about the risks and any Jedi older then a year would have understood that. I am sorry you carebears are e-offended about this but that is the truth, not some watered down bs you guys want.