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Thread: Master Powers/Sabers 0400/Healer 4000/Def 0040/Enh 3004

toraxx
Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:19 am
#14

oh and...to the dude who's friend lost to a juvi krayt.... i kill them easly its not hard at all. He dosent know how to use this template. It didnt take me long to learn but i had to practice and pratice on guild memeber... jedi and non jedi to find out how to use it. I dont know how my life would be without intim.



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p897t98
Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:59 am
#15

If you have a saber that good, dont waste it on powers...I really want to go powers but I couldnt waste this saber




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DaTick
Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:00 am
#16


outlanderbloodtooth said...


my friend has that exact temp and he hates it, he is retemping as we speek, powers really is a joke, i personally would avoid powers at all costs. he is a full temp jedi cl 80, and he got killed by a juvinile krayt dragon! ouch!






ok I have master Powers LS 0400 Healer 4000 Defender 0040 Enhancer 4004


I can solo giant kryats with that temp Ican beat MLS jedi in 1-1 duels I can survive up 2-3 BH attacking me ifyoru friend is dieing to Juvinile kryats its notthe fault of the template its his fault for not learning how to use it properly. After dueling many vet Jedi rescently all they have tosay at theend of a duel win or lose & I win about half of them even with a lesser LS thanmost they say "dam I underestemated what Powers can do" That seems tobe the underlying sentiment from most people.


a Template with Powers in it is really a bag of tricks... It takes Tactics & timing to defeat the 700+ max damage LS people & Patience to defeeat theMaster Defender people. Unlike the MLS MDEF people you cannot just CHARGE!!! into battle & hope to survive you need tobe able to have a plan of attack & be smart enough to adapt quickly tothe changing cercumstances of any fight PVE or PVP.





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p897t98
Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:12 am
#17



DaTick wrote:

outlanderbloodtooth said...

my friend has that exact temp and he hates it, he is retemping as we speek, powers really is a joke, i personally would avoid powers at all costs. he is a full temp jedi cl 80, and he got killed by a juvinile krayt dragon! ouch!


ok I have master Powers LS 0400 Healer 4000 Defender 0040 Enhancer 4004

I can solo giant kryats with that temp Ican beat MLS jedi in 1-1 duels I can survive up 2-3 BH attacking me ifyoru friend is dieing to Juvinile kryats its notthe fault of the template its his fault for not learning how to use it properly. After dueling many vet Jedi rescently all they have tosay at theend of a duel win or lose & I win about half of them even with a lesser LS thanmost they say "dam I underestemated what Powers can do" That seems tobe the underlying sentiment from most people.

a Template with Powers in it is really a bag of tricks... It takes Tactics & timing to defeat the 700+ max damage LS people & Patience to defeeat theMaster Defender people. Unlike the MLS MDEF people you cannot just CHARGE!!! into battle & hope to survive you need tobe able to have a plan of attack & be smart enough to adapt quickly tothe changing cercumstances of any fight PVE or PVP.






Shows how over powered aura is...




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DaTick
Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:21 am
#18

ya aura does give you a lot help thas why Powers works against a lto of jediits called a little used master box skill ... force Breach!!! nobody really uses it but ifyou breach someones aura &force shield THEn apply choke even if theyreaply it right after the choke they willnotmitigat the tics from choke you aplied & an unmitigated choke taks people by suprise & usually youwill beat a jedibecause of it or at least put them on the defensive, & yes in duels I can stand toe 2 toe with these MLS FOTM guys.



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ga1352
Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:21 am
#19

at least grind 0004 saber just to make a decent saber and drop it for 0400



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Aulendil
Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:08 am
#20

Force breach FTW










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VaainEldritch
Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:19 am
#21






DaTick wrote:
ya aura does give you a lot help thas why Powers works against a lto of jediits called a little used master box skill ... force Breach!!! nobody really uses it but ifyou breach someones aura &force shield THEn apply choke even if theyreaply it right after the choke they willnotmitigat the tics from choke you aplied & an unmitigated choke taks people by suprise & usually youwill beat a jedibecause of it or at least put them on the defensive, & yes in duels I can stand toe 2 toe with these MLS FOTM guys.





As a lead in to the main point of my post, Master Defenders are always on the Defensive.


But to the point, batman! In this game combat is about two things - how much damage you can deal out and how much damage you can take (this covers healing too). Your template excels at neither but is positively vulnerable to the latter and so you will have to take a supporting role because templates built around face-to-face fighting will tear this template up. Aura will help you reduce the number on incoming hits, but when one gets through you are going to be hurting. Your saber speed will be bad, your force use with Powers massive and Powers as an offensive template has so many pitfalls I sometimes think the Dev's are joking with us.


Message Edited by VaainEldritch on 10-09-2005 06:20 PM



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PDPoc
Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:27 am
#22

My temp is Master Power/LS 0400/Def 0040/ENH 0404/Heal 4000


I love it, I am thinking about changing ENH 0404 to 4004, but I am still testing how well I can do without FA, as of right now I can solo-CL 111, and am still working on soloing Krayts (almost got it down) but I will be master powers as long as there is a shadow of hope for it, We will see what the FRS will bring, if it ever brings anything.



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DaTick
Sun Oct 09, 2005 10:51 am
#23

Putting someone on the defensive is abotu having them waste turns thatcoldbe used todamage me for healing & reaplying buffs this gives me time tocontinue attackign them & inthe case of defenders draining force about every 4 or 5 moves Combat isn'tjsut about damage taken & damage delt. that sense of the combat system is for PVP 101 I'm talking aboutthe advanced class here budy where yourecognize the eb & flow of the combat & read yoru opponents tendency's & use it to yoru advantage.


I picked Powers for these reasons 1st everyone told be it was gimped & nobody could win regularly with master Powers in thier template againt Jedi well I win fairly regularly agianst other jedi


2nd I recognize teh true ability of Powers & if they ever fix Powers its just nto going to be a fair jedi vs jedi fight when it involves any Master Powers user who knows how to use thier template properly, Powers is a bag of tricks... you have to know how & when to use them (see my first Post here) you don't use intimidate when you already have someone on the ropes the only exeption is when yoru action is low & you need to hold off on attacks till you regain it then you intim with your last move & then throw a KD in themidle ofthier assault to slow them up. you need more timing with Powers, and mor sense of tactics.


3rd Powers for me is like switchign on teh advanced gameplay mode on a console game its harder to win with but its ultimately more fun for players who like a challenge.



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Aznidiot
Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:03 am
#24

IMO if you have a good saber...and know what the hell your doing with mpowers...you can take out any mdef



i have



and btw i'm mpowers 4000h 4004e and 0400ls and 0040d





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Jyde71
Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:38 am
#25


I run this exact template with the rest of the loose pts thrown into force sensitive ranged acc / speed I love it.


PVE - There is no jedi better at killing a mob than this template imo. the choke + a sweet saber will put anything down quicker than any other. If the going gets tough i pull out a 600dps pistol and pound away at it in fr1. Can solo the avatar, DJM, Necrosis, and helping with grinding groups can put down mobs in 2-3 hits area.


PVP - toe to toe with a defense stacked jedi it's tough but possible with excellent use of powers skills. Mass pvp i dont know a more usefull companion to a defense stacked jedi than to have the area kd/area stun / intim/ area lightning. it'll take out whole groups at a time.


I am capped on every jedi mod for powers / two handed ls so that makes a huge difference, and the fact that my saber is perfect for a 0400 is a saving grace. A new jedi wouldnt be as strong with this template and i would surley suggest atleast doing mls first to build a good saber.

Message Edited by Jyde71 on 10-09-2005 02:40 PM



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BoFa-ST
Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:55 am
#26

with his saber, not going MLS, is a waste of his 'power' if you ask me.


i could see someone with postCU pearls going this route, but to me, his best chance of putting that saber to good use is with MLS.


theres not to many mPowers/Mls/4040healers out there. if its all abotu being unique, do something like that. otherwise, i think hes wasteing his saber.




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