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Thread: Would you like to not be involved in PvP with your Jedi?
Risc wrote:
I am contending that they should not necessarily be PvP. I believe the game advertised a choice to PvP and for good reasons. I am questioning why that choice is not extended to Jedi.
First, I'm not trying to flame. I'm just stating my "opinion".
I think that the PvP and Bountyelementsare what they meant when they told us that the life of a Jedi would be extremely difficult and perilous. If there was no forced PvP, Jedi would essentially be a long grind to Master, and at the end you would be a very powerful factional melee combatant. The forced PvP makes that goal more difficult to achieve. I for one have had more than a couple close calls, most of which happened before permadeath was removed.
Fezzig wrote:
Risc wrote:
I am contending that they should not necessarily be PvP. I believe the game advertised a choice to PvP and for good reasons. I am questioning why that choice is not extended to Jedi.First, I'm not trying to flame. I'm just stating my "opinion".
I think that the PvP and Bounty elements are what they meant when they told us that the life of a Jedi would be extremely difficult and perilous. If there was no forced PvP, Jedi would essentially be a long grind to Master, and at the end you would be a very powerful factional melee combatant. The forced PvP makes that goal more difficult to achieve. I for one have had more than a couple close calls, most of which happened before permadeath was removed.
True enough. I would agree that the life of a Jedi needs to be difficult.
But, once again, I don't believe that making the life of a jedi difficult requires PvP. NPC bounty hunters could fulfill that role or even an extension of the current "crack-down" focused on Jedi.
Keep in mind, I am not suggesting that Jedi by non-pvp, because some Jedi obviously enjoy that aspect of the game. I am merely stating that some (including myself) would rather not.
A good criticism of this idea is that one could simply level to higher Jedi tiers and then switch to PvP. This seems a poor thing. I suggest that the choice of PvP or non-pvp, is irreversible. Once a Jedi chooses which path, there is no going back.
Yec wrote:
Risc wrote:
I simply would like to understand how many people are not interested in the PvP aspects of the Jedi profession.
I for one, am not interested in the PvP aspects. Although I enjoy PvP in a well thought out PvP system, this is not one of them. Of course, this is just my opinion.
It's not that I'm interested in the PvP aspects in particular, but I find the risk of playing as a Jedi to be very exciting. Today I was in a cave fighting some things due to boredom more or less, and a blue dot showed up at the mouth of the cave. I waited for my JEF to wear off as I watched him slowly (very very slowly) come down. He was either curious or waiting for backup. The excitement as I watched the little dot move on radar and my JEF timer tick down was quite exhilirating. In the end my flag expired before anything came of it, but I had lots of fun.
If you want to be a Jedi but can't stand participating in PvP, don't bother with the grind. You're only torturing yourself.
Message Edited by Yec on 03-03-2004 08:14 PM
That is it exactly!
This is the most fun I've had in-game. I've played Jedi for a month and I think it's cool. PvP kepts us in hiding... well most of us =]
Risc wrote:
But, once again, I don't believe that making the life of a jedi difficult requires PvP. NPC bounty hunters could fulfill that role or even an extension of the current "crack-down" focused on Jedi.
Kinda funny you mention that. One of the more cryptic dev messages I read back in the day said something like: "You'll have fun being a Jedi, but don't be suprised if you're out having fun one day and Mara Jade pays you a visit."
I can only assume the dev meant that they intended to have NPCs hunting Jedi at that time.
I'm ALL FOR PVP with jedi... but thing is... I'm not for KD/Dizzy (in nay form) Kill jedi... we really really need some defences.. we are supposed to be NASTY fighters.. what ever happened to the force being all knowing... well if we are all knowing i'd think we can dodge a pole arm or sword. knocking down a jedi is farrrrrrrrrrrr too easy. PLEASE FIX THIS.
If i knew it wasnt going to be easy to knock me down and kill me, I'd be rping my jedi into all kinds of fights.
Give us some defence so we can all have soem fun non jedi included.
Risc wrote:
I think that perhaps some of you missed my point.
I am not contending that Jedi are NOT Pvp. I certainly know they are.
I am contending that they should not necessarily be PvP. I believe the game advertised a choice to PvP and for good reasons. I am questioning why that choice is not extended to Jedi.
Risc wrote:
Fezzig wrote:
Risc wrote:
I am contending that they should not necessarily be PvP. I believe the game advertised a choice to PvP and for good reasons. I am questioning why that choice is not extended to Jedi.First, I'm not trying to flame. I'm just stating my "opinion".
I think that the PvP and Bounty elements are what they meant when they told us that the life of a Jedi would be extremely difficult and perilous. If there was no forced PvP, Jedi would essentially be a long grind to Master, and at the end you would be a very powerful factional melee combatant. The forced PvP makes that goal more difficult to achieve. I for one have had more than a couple close calls, most of which happened before permadeath was removed.
True enough. I would agree that the life of a Jedi needs to be difficult.
But, once again, I don't believe that making the life of a jedi difficult requires PvP. NPC bounty hunters could fulfill that role or even an extension of the current "crack-down" focused on Jedi.
Keep in mind, I am not suggesting that Jedi by non-pvp, because some Jedi obviously enjoy that aspect of the game. I am merely stating that some (including myself) would rather not.
A good criticism of this idea is that one could simply level to higher Jedi tiers and then switch to PvP. This seems a poor thing. I suggest that the choice of PvP or non-pvp, is irreversible. Once a Jedi chooses which path, there is no going back.
Adding NPC bounty hunters would be a step away from what this game is....a MMORPG.
OontaMugnar wrote:
I'm not interested in PvP at all and would be even happier if they nerfed it out of existence.
Fezzig wrote:
If you opened your slot, you must have read the Jedi Welcome Letter. Check the 5th paragraph, and specifically, the second line.
Risc wrote:From the player manual:Some might argue that you are actively choosing to participate in PvP by unlocking your slot. I would argue that was never the intent of this message.
Ok, you can read, but do you understand anything that you read? This is not what was being asked. *shakes head, kicks BH Troll into a different galaxy far far away"