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"Bounty Hunters maximum potential is greater than Post-cu Jedi maximum potential"

Lol you/your server must suck at Jedi if you think this ,

Forget it, most of you post cu jedi won't be happy till you have the I win button. I feel really sorry for you pre-cu jedi that have to put up with the carebares.

Message Edited by Hasun on 09-25-2005 04:11 PM

Message Edited by Hasun on 09-25-2005 07:32 PM

This is the problem, a good MBH with the right foods and equipment are nearly unbeatable. I know of two on my server, they NEVER loose unless it's due to a KD bug, or if it's to MPowers/MLS (a rare breed it seems). A TKM/MCM that's skilled will beat every Jedi template there is.

Now if you have templates that will beat any Jedi template with the exception of bugs, than there is no 1.5x stronger. And to top it off, Jedi have to constantly recharge between engagements to keep their force pool up. My MBH/CM4000/Mrifles alt can outdamage, outheal, and take on alot of targets faster without resting.

Just addding, I have not been defeated by a BH in 6 months, but there have been 3 that I couldn't damage enough. And I've taken out nearly every template there is, including all sorts of MBH/MCM variants. But SOE already admits Jedi are weren't properly balaced post-cu and hinted at a revamp AGAIN already. Too many broken skills such as MHealer.

Message Edited by Orthell on 09-25-2005 08:19 AM

You have managed to type alot in red but have failed to say anything that refutes the validity of what has been said.Hasun

Your argument is misdirected .What you have said is irrelevant to the focus.

Message Edited by Sturdune on 09-25-2005 12:19 PM

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Sturdune wrote:

You have managed to type alot in red but have failed to say anything that refutes the validity of what has been said.Hasun

Your argument is misdirected .What you have said is irrelevant to the focus.

Message Edited by Sturdune on 09-25-2005 12:19 PM

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No, but he did say you suck in red letters to prove his point, lol. Paper, rock, scissors does NOT hold true like so many like to quote over and over again. It's so easily proven false.

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Sturdune wrote:

what did you just say?

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I didn't say it, lol. Plus, I got to leave now anyways.

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phant0mTA wrote:

every template has its positives and its negatives but 1 thing always holds true. Know how to use ur template, use the right foods and use strategy! i have had a ton of mbh mcm attack me and i beat them all or made them run and im not even mls. So before you come here and complain saying ohh they unbeatable i think u need to learn how to pvp and u need to learn your template.

felhammer

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I fully agree here.

Myself as a TKM/MSwords/Mbrawler I have beat my fair share of Jedi. Yet I have got owned by a couple. One beat after 5 min with a pre-cu sabre.Another just yesterdaythat I believe was exploiting, killed me, fully fooded up and cranked over 750+ defensein addition to a psg in 4 FRIGGING HITS in like 5 secs. He claimed that He was just good. So i then and there challenged his buddy that was with him in Full Ris w/ power hammer and wentfor 30 min plus before he incapped me. I wear no armor nor have any attatchments. Just a sliceADKed Knucklers. So jedi have their tricks...they are not the gimped profession that the original poster is tying to make them out to be. Know your templete

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Hasun wrote:

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Saereth wrote:

Let me post an observation here as well, I unlocked 1 week after cu, I've spent from then, until about 3 weeks ago comepletely on my jedi. Playing everyday, an average of 4 hours per day, I have tuned over 130 pealrs and 200+ crystals and I have spent hundreds of millions of credits on my jedi to buy pearls (in addition to krayt hunting every day) as well as buying Cas, leaving me with about400k in my bank and now that au'kuans are gone, no real way to make more money.I am full template, and even with a 2k health buff a skilled MCM/MBH can take me out, I just cant do enough damage to drain their mind BEFORE my force is gone, and once the force is gone, thats it.

Your FOTM jedi template arn't you, no wonder you get owned by the Mcm/mbh template. If you hadn't have been a sheep and followed the rest of the jedi on your server you may have stumbled on the jedi template that can destroy a Mcm/mbh in minutes, without the use of a pre cu saber as well.

You are just speculating that he is FOTM. Remember that some temps are FOTMs because it's so good/effective. Besides what he says about MCM/MBH it true anyway.

Now, that being said, 3 weeks ago I decided to make a bounty hunter alt. After 3 weeks I am capped on ranged accuracy/speed mods in my Cas, I have 8200ishenergy recon,75% armorbreak sliced, a very nicelysliced and Puped LD-1 with an ADK, I geta droid, a nice healing eff undershirt, cm 4000/mrm/mbh, some nice bacta enhancers so now I heal better than my jedi, do more damage, do it from 64ms and its on...all in all, I spent about 30mil in equipment and thats including 9mil for the adk. and my bank account currently sits around 12miland thats after buying all the equipment and Cas... This is after THREE WEEKS OF WORK. My record stands at 38 kills, 4 deaths Me vs. Jedi. and many were full template.

Can jedi not use ca's?, can jedi not walk into the dwb cloaked and steal all the loot out of the chests?, how come its only jedi players that even attempt to try the DWB nowadays?, if jedi is gimped why does 90% of people have one?

Getting CAs and equipment for non-jedi is ALOT cheaper, that was his point.

People have jedi, because it's different from all other professions. (aka. 'Magic') And it's hoped that they will fix jedi to really be 1.5X stronger.

now that just Jedi vs Bh... how about PVE?

MBH: Can Solo Ancient Krayts easily, can solo the named 111 dant npcs/dark adepts/djm/djks/necrosis, nearly anything in the game is soloable thanks to the snares and kds.

I highly doubt that, but if you have a link to a video of someone doing it I may be ready to believe you, until then i'm claiming bull. There may be certain templates that can solo an ancient but I gaurantee you it will not include mbh.

Iwas MBH/Mcarb/Pistoleer x/x/x/4 and solo'd an ancient kryat. I wanted the badge so that's what i did. Infact i used a rifle to do it. With +acc food and snare, not hard at all. I also kill the CL111 NPCs too, they were harder, because of the lack of room on that little island, but it's possible and done.

dark adepts/djm/djks have all been solo'd by ranged professions and it's proven. Only one i don't think is possible is necrosis due to lack of space in the fighting area.

Jedi: Can solo the 111 npcs with synth steak and at least 55% force. Can solo Canyon and Juvy krayts... thats about it. ...Cant really think of anything else remarkable this char can do.

Oh so jedi can solo stuff as well, I know of plenty of jedi on my server that can solo all krayts, dark jedi knights etc, maybe you need to rethink you template or just admit you plain suck.

All Krayts, even ancients? solo? Now i doupt that.

GCW:My bh can slice the term, go undercover and pick off people, outrange turrets to disable them...

Jedi can saber block some of the turretdamage and continually heal as he slows beats on one, then he's pretty much done, no use in the base at all other than to just sit around looking for overt defenders to show up and even then an undercover MRM/MBH wouldbe much more useful in those situations as an early warning etc.

Outranging turrets is an oversight from the devs, what would you like them to do, increase saber throw to 100m or actually fix the problem and extend the range the turrets can fire?. There are many mbh templates that all do wsonderful things each one effective against another jedi template.

You know the game stone, paper, scissors, well that is what the CU is, every template be it jedi or normal has an anti-template.

I agree with you here.

So yeah There is your balance, drop jedi, make a MBH, welcome to the alpha class you have worked sohard toearn.

Although you have made one or two good points, jedi are far from gimped, if they were no one would be a jedi and yet I can stand in Theed on Corbantis and see 10 jedi for every 1 normal most evenings.

Post-CU jedi are 'gimped' by definition. (aka not 1.5x stonger.) They are about strong as most professions, but that's not how it should be. The jedi you see are peoplewho unlocked before the big nerfs took place. Actually about now is when you will see true post-CU jediwho have started playing around the movie release. (Like me.)

Hasun made good points. a FOTM temp of MBH/MRM/cm 4-0-0-0 can have full CAs and top weapons and armor 10x cheaper than jedi can hope to achieve. They can match the firepower of jedi and out heal them. And they have BH missions which are the only viable way to get good CAs. The alpha class is now the BHs i think.

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Message Edited by Hasun on 09-25-2005 04:11 PM

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