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Thread: Sabers- A True Possibility
eternalfool wrote:
And to Enita, he was talking about the possibility of making a LS in RL, not in game.. in game sure, they r focused by the force e.t.c.... the force isnt real
By my speculations on this subject, i have come to the conclusion that it is, technically and scientifically, possible to create a real-life light saber. But of course, there are EXTREME restrictions. They are as follows:
1- It would take a very long time of the saber being activated for it to gain enough strength to act like a blade.
2- Since we currently know no way to bend light without affecting the physical world, it is nearly impossible to turn light around and "suck" it back into the lightsaber, as the SWG explanation shows. But, it IS possible to create an extremely fine mirror which extends as long as the blade is expected to be, REFLECTING rather than "sucking" back into the saber. After which, just like in the explanation, the light is reflected again INSIDE the saber, and through the lens again, re-focusing the beam of light/laser and amplifying its strength. Each time is passes through it would add to its power until the light becomes dense enough to affect the physical world by burning it away.
3- Sabers would turn on and off light a flashlight, not hum, and would certainly not go PPSSSSSSSHHHHEWWW when activated.
4- Sabers would travel through other sabers, not impact like a sword.
5- Sabers would burn through any object touched with no effort whatsoever. You can have it hang on a string and swing back and forth, and it will cut through steel. Light does not require work to move.
6- After each hit, a saber would lose some power because of the light reflected/absorbed by the object it impacted.
Sorry all- im in 3rd period and hella bored...
Zarc
JDawg40 wrote:
Call me a science nerd but here goes
Nah ill be nice.. Its Friday.
JDawg40 wrote:
Call me a science nerd but here goes
By my speculations on this subject, i have come to the conclusion that it is, technically and scientifically, possible to create a real-life light saber. But of course, there are EXTREME restrictions. They are as follows:
1- It would take a very long time of the saber being activated for it to gain enough strength to act like a blade.
2- Since we currently know no way to bend light without affecting the physical world, it is nearly impossible to turn light around and "suck" it back into the lightsaber, as the SWG explanation shows. But, it IS possible to create an extremely fine mirror which extends as long as the blade is expected to be, REFLECTING rather than "sucking" back into the saber. After which, just like in the explanation, the light is reflected again INSIDE the saber, and through the lens again, re-focusing the beam of light/laser and amplifying its strength. Each time is passes through it would add to its power until the light becomes dense enough to affect the physical world by burning it away.
3- Sabers would turn on and off light a flashlight, not hum, and would certainly not go PPSSSSSSSHHHHEWWW when activated.
4- Sabers would travel through other sabers, not impact like a sword.
5- Sabers would burn through any object touched with no effort whatsoever. You can have it hang on a string and swing back and forth, and it will cut through steel. Light does not require work to move.
6- After each hit, a saber would lose some power because of the light reflected/absorbed by the object it impacted.
Sorry all- im in 3rd period and hella bored...
Zarc
JDawg40 wrote: Call me a science nerd but here goes By my speculations on this subject, i have come to the conclusion that it is, technically and scientifically, possible to create a real-life light saber. But of course, there are EXTREME restrictions. They are as follows: 1- It would take a very long time of the saber being activated for it to gain enough strength to act like a blade.
Since it is a beam of "pure" energy, after the initial "ignition" period, the blade would be aspowerful as it is going to get.The timing of the ignition would be dependant on the amount of energy in the power cells. 2- Since we currently know no way to bend light without affecting the physical world, it is nearly impossible to turn light around and "suck" it back into the lightsaber, as the SWG explanation shows. But, it IS possible to create an extremely fine mirror which extends as long as the blade is expected to be, REFLECTING rather than "sucking" back into the saber. After which, just like in the explanation, the light is reflected again INSIDE the saber, and through the lens again, re-focusing the beam of light/laser and amplifying its strength. Each time is passes through it would add to its power until the light becomes dense enough to affect the physical world by burning it away.
The beam on a lightsaber isn't stated to be light energy: 'Using "frozen blaster" technology, a blade of pure energy is created. The beam can cut through almost anything solid, except another lightsaber blade, the material cortosis and other force fields, an alloy used in Magna Guards' electrostaves called phrik, superconductors, and Yuuzhan Vong amphistaffs, serpent-like creatures used as melee weapons that, when snapped rigid, generate their own force fields. Mandalorian iron is known to resist the effects of a lightsaber'.
'Once all the pieces are assembled, the Jedi uses the Force to meld them on a molecular or lower level, permitting unheard-of energy efficiency. This efficiency is what allows the blades to remain lit and active for long periods of time. The only real energy drain is when the blade comes into contact with something'.
3- Sabers would turn on and off light a flashlight, not hum, and would certainly not go PPSSSSSSSHHHHEWWW when activated.
Since you are talking about a HUGE release of energy from within the hilt of the saber, the chances are it would make a loud hum as it is activated and used. Think of a power transformer, are they silent? no.
4- Sabers would travel through other sabers, not impact like a sword.
Again, it is a SOLID beam of energy
5- Sabers would burn through any object touched with no effort whatsoever. You can have it hang on a string and swing back and forth, and it will cut through steel. Light does not require work to move.
Your point being?
6- After each hit, a saber would lose some power because of the light reflected/absorbed by the object it impacted.
Yep, thats exactly what they do... crystal decay.
Oh, and they are FICTIONAL, they can do whatever the writer wants them to
Sorry all- im in 3rd period and hella bored... Zarc
Message Edited by Enita on 09-09-2005 09:05 PM
Because i dont know how you could power something like this in the size of a hilt.Anyway, the whole "science" of Gundam hinges on the Minovsky particle. It's a very rigid particle of matter than can withstand very high energy. Minovsky particles are scattered during combat to reduce the effectiveness of radar and force combats into visual range. But they also found another use. The engine of a Gundam or other mobile suit is a nuclear powerplant. The melee weapon of the Gundam (called the beam saber) is mounted in a socket that is directly connected to this powerplant. This allows for recharging the power cells in the handle of the beam saber.
The saber itself is very much like a lightsaber in Star Wars. Minovsky particles shoot up out of the hilt, and form an empty "blade." This space then fills up with plasma from the powerplant of the mobile suit itself. The resulting blade can slice through just about anything.
It's really a cool bit that Tomino throught up to explain why bam sabers could exist and why they'd be used in the first place (close-range battles). If you're into anime, check it out. Evenif you're not, and you're into sci-fi, give it a whirl. Very cool stuff.
Here's a link to a wiki on Gundam technology.
Elisar wrote:
actually, referring to my Star Wars official chronology. Early Jedi Did indeed wear a kinda Backpack that supplied energy to their sabers which were connected by a tether/powercord to the backpack. Essentially, the pack supplied all the energy, and the 'blade' came out of the handle, which i presume was a focusing mechanism.... So LS dont necssarily HAVE to start off as a self contained HANdle and Blade.
lol maybe it could be powered with an inductance rod just like those watches that charge as you move your arm. It would charge as they swing it in battle
Sith: "Prepare to meet the Force!"
Jedi: "You know nothing of the Force...but you'll feel it soon enough"
sabers ignite and clash
the Jedi's saber starts to flicker and fade
Jedi: "Oh crap dude hang on a second, I forgot to charge it last night"
The Jedi turns his back to his opponent and vigorously shakes his saber
Jedi: 'Almost...there"
saber ignites again and they fight to the death