Jedi Archive
Thread: I am a MBH MCM
Jediknight2k1
Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:08 am
#14
I'd settle for the 1.5 if half our skills worked. Things like 0040 Enh and 0004 defender etc.
Okiav wrote:
Hello all
I truly believe that,
Jedi need an upgrade, they need to be at the minimum, 2x stronger than any combination of double masteries, that would put them more on par with the movies. THey also need to bring back the FRS. to add some fun into the jedi profession.
Lastly they need to place light and dark side restrictions on abilities ie. No light jedi should be able to choke or use force lightning. No dark jedi should be able to transfer force or heal others ( they just wouldnt do that).looking into these types of things would greatly improve the situation and add some flavor and variety to the game.
I also think that abilities such as force armor and many of the master defender templates ought to be comabt only. No reason for a jedi to be walking around contiually reapplying aura or what the hell ever the armor andd stuff is called. that would add some interesting aspects to the bh/jedi situation. Another alternative is to weaken the abilities and make the skill passive (ie. always active and never need to be reaplied accept there should be a timer after cloning like 2 mins where there is no passive abilities.)
I also dont believe jedi ought to be able to heal wounds of others. that is something that should be left to the docs.
Lastly although i am a bh, no bh should be able to take a full temp jedi in a fair 1v1 fight, unless the jedi is an idiot. BH's need to act like bounty hunters and stalk their prey and they should wait until the jedi's force is really low before they attack.
/discuss
Stecoli
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:08 am
#15
True, Im also a bounty hunter, jedi are weak and pathetic, but I think they brought in on themselves by abuse of powers, like cloak and statis, afk house sitting, wanting to be 1.5X stronger than other people is asking for trouble, hopefully all the nerfing will force them all to quit and then its problem solved and game fixed.
Pitchu
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:13 am
#16
Excellent post dude. Very contructive and actually some nice ideas too..
/bow
Phaelyn
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:17 am
#17
Stecoli wrote:
True, Im also a bounty hunter, jedi are weak and pathetic, but I think they brought in on themselves by abuse of powers, like cloak and statis, afk house sitting, wanting to be 1.5X stronger than other people is asking for trouble, hopefully all the nerfing will force them all to quit and then its problem solved and game fixed.
I hope I won't be spoiling your dream of a Jedi Free SWG - But until this game is cancelled, I will still be here.
Many Jedi may quit in frustration, but I will still be here.
I may end up being powerless, unable to compete in PVE or PVP and be relegated to a curiousity - But *I* will still be here.
I am not a Jedi for the power, I am a Jedi for the belief that Jedi are guardians of peace and justice throughout the Galaxies.
I just may end up being the last of the Jedi - But until the day comes when the servers close forever - Despite the costs, despite the hardships - I will be here.
Even if only because I am too stubborn - Radiant will always have at least 1 Jedi.
I absolutely refuse to lay down and die.
Maxil
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:22 am
#19
It just seems odd that several months ago, the most important bh tactic was "element of surprise"
Now that doesn't really matter at all with most bh templetes, as they can tank against a jedi, rather than stalk and wait.
I posted on the bh boards once about the "element of surprise" and that they have the advantage of first strike, most of the replies were laughing at me, saying they can, and should be, able to tank us. They know their strength, and won't ever want to give it up. (most that is)
Now that doesn't really matter at all with most bh templetes, as they can tank against a jedi, rather than stalk and wait.
I posted on the bh boards once about the "element of surprise" and that they have the advantage of first strike, most of the replies were laughing at me, saying they can, and should be, able to tank us. They know their strength, and won't ever want to give it up. (most that is)
XxSLEDGExX
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:33 am
#20
Stecoli.....
/agree
IMO, I love publish 24 and am really looking forward to ToOW.....
jizumnuri
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:50 am
#21
Stecoli wrote:
True, Im also a bounty hunter, jedi are weak and pathetic, but I think they brought in on themselves by abuse of powers, like cloak and statis, afk house sitting, wanting to be 1.5X stronger than other people is asking for trouble, hopefully all the nerfing will force them all to quit and then its problem solved and game fixed.
here is were the problem starts with the jedi/bh scandal ... as a person that plays both side of the issue ill give my opinion..... you have to think about itSOE will never screw the jedi for long, for this ill give you two reasons......
1. jedi are SOE "bread and butter" 80 % if not more of the people playing the game are jedi or are in it to be a jedi and will pay for 6 moths minimum to get there ..... so kill jedi skill/nerf /make it worthless and lose at least 80% of your clients ... not good business im sure they are smarter then that but who knows.
2. ToOW is releasing soon they dont want to jeopardize the countless hours /money spent in development (if thats what they wanna call it) ... besides its biggest loot drops will be for jedi anyways .
IMHO they will fix the issues with jedi and in turn it will end upnerfing SL/BH agian just to make the bigger number happy...it has seesawed back and forth since about pub 9 when all the crybaby wining started back then.... i was jedi when jedi was fun and overpowered i liked it that way and wish it still was like that ...if you think about it noone really complained back in the day when we were fr3 around in 80% kin/30% stun comp stacking 800 point mind bleeds with saber throw .
the only real way to fix the issue is to bring back permadeath ... it would make the jedi think b4 they fight and gain visibility while dueling in theed lol
and last but certainly not least before you flame when i say permadeath i mean when you die to bh's you lose your temp not 2 hours of grinding ie: you start over at paddy with no force disciplines.
excuse the spelling pincushion and grammer im lazy and tired ...and there is no spell checker .
Flame if you like... its my 2credits
Message Edited by jizumnuri on 10-21-2005 02:22 AM
DenkiriLargo
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:52 am
#22
Phaelyn wrote:
Stecoli wrote:
True, Im also a bounty hunter, jedi are weak and pathetic, but I think they brought in on themselves by abuse of powers, like cloak and statis, afk house sitting, wanting to be 1.5X stronger than other people is asking for trouble, hopefully all the nerfing will force them all to quit and then its problem solved and game fixed.
I hope I won't be spoiling your dream of a Jedi Free SWG - But until this game is cancelled, I will still be here.
Many Jedi may quit in frustration, but I will still be here.
I may end up being powerless, unable to compete in PVE or PVP and be relegated to a curiousity - But *I* will still be here.
I am not a Jedi for the power, I am a Jedi for the belief that Jedi are guardians of peace and justice throughout the Galaxies.
I just may end up being the last of the Jedi - But until the day comes when the servers close forever - Despite the costs, despite the hardships - I will be here.
Even if only because I am too stubborn - Radiant will always have at least 1 Jedi.
I absolutely refuse to lay down and die.
There are alot more of this kind of Jedi...myself included
IHateRebJedi
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:53 am
#23
Maybe if JEDI took longer to grind then Bio Engineer it would be true and Jedi should be made more powerful.
However everyone and there mother is a jedi now. This game has no originality, Jedi are everywhere, and nobody has any identity. game over
Maxil
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:55 am
#24
when I'm continually still the only jedi in a grind group, I find it hard to believe the above comment. Yeah, now and then I'm in a group that has 5-6 jedi in it at a time, but monitoring the groups running out of MO, the jedi/other prof ratio is still pretty high
And BE can be mastered pretty quickly, all but the dna branch can be done under a day (as most crafting profs) maybe week, two weeks tops for the 3hr day player.
And BE can be mastered pretty quickly, all but the dna branch can be done under a day (as most crafting profs) maybe week, two weeks tops for the 3hr day player.
Message Edited by Maxil on 10-21-2005 03:57 AM
rheven
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:57 am
#25
Okiav wrote:
Hello all
I truly believe that,
Jedi need an upgrade, they need to be at the minimum, 2x stronger than any combination of double masteries, that would put them more on par with the movies. THey also need to bring back the FRS. to add some fun into the jedi profession.
Lastly they need to place light and dark side restrictions on abilities ie. No light jedi should be able to choke or use force lightning. No dark jedi should be able to transfer force or heal others ( they just wouldnt do that).looking into these types of things would greatly improve the situation and add some flavor and variety to the game.
I also think that abilities such as force armor and many of the master defender templates ought to be comabt only. No reason for a jedi to be walking around contiually reapplying aura or what the hell ever the armor andd stuff is called. that would add some interesting aspects to the bh/jedi situation. Another alternative is to weaken the abilities and make the skill passive (ie. always active and never need to be reaplied accept there should be a timer after cloning like 2 mins where there is no passive abilities.)
I also dont believe jedi ought to be able to heal wounds of others. that is something that should be left to the docs.
Lastly although i am a bh, no bh should be able to take a full temp jedi in a fair 1v1 fight, unless the jedi is an idiot. BH's need to act like bounty hunters and stalk their prey and they should wait until the jedi's force is really low before they attack.
/discuss
my friend you are a rare gem among thedirt
Message Edited by rheven on 10-21-2005 01:59 AM
PhantomFF
Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:59 am
#26
My Jedi wont die either... I worked on gaining Jedi for more than a year...no amount of nerfing can force me to just give it up...