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Thread: Did we cause Ourselves to be Underpowered? YES!

MsNiL
Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:28 pm
#14





Mfodish wrote:
Ok everyone knows Jedi are a bit underpowered (but still well rounded in my opinion).


we was not allowed to betatest Jedi in the cu





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LordDraconis
Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:32 pm
#15






Pday wrote:






LordDraconis wrote:






Pday wrote:





LordDraconis wrote:

Underpowered well don't know about that, seems you guys are fine were you are. Besides chances are jedi are going to get nerfed more when FRS comes back. Made a post a few days ago about balance and why cu made you guys alot weaker. http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1251854


Overall jedi is fine were they are I agree they should fix FRS but I don't want to see jedi get too overpowered that they need 5 bh to take them down I always found that very dumb it took that much. Bh solo jedi now because jedi said they didn't like getting ganked by bh grouping. Thats all good but since bh can only solo jedi now I see no reason to really make jedi all that much more powerfull.






a jedi knight should be way more powerful at guardian, and more or less untouchable by masters. a knight should be 2.5x stronger than a regular non jedi proffession template.


the issue was that when bhs could come after me with a 5 man gank squad i could kill them all if i didnt fumble, now 1 bh can drain my entire forcebar, death from 1 or death from 5 bhs is the exact same thing. Death and xp loss.


A frs jedi should be untouchable by a single BH, technically a full temp paddy should be 1.5


Bhs have things way to easy now.








Well did you read my post?, I'll place it again

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1251854

....like I said its about balance. So your saying once you reach knight no bh should not be able to beat you? So you can be worry free trying to make guardain then make master. Well doesn't work that way in this timeline jedi are the bad guys and thus have bountys on their head.






i did read it and it made me wish you were not alowed to post, jedi padawan 1.5, jedi knight 2.5, jedi guardian 4.0 jedi master 6.0, oh and bhs can team up on guardians and masters, you however have to chose when to attack, and not just run in and attack.


Jedi should not be balanced,jedi are an ALPHA class , jedi is the only class to lose xp, and a jedi template takes 32 million xp to complete. Yes jedi have bountys on them, but there is no way a single bh should ever be able to kill a jedi as easy as now, and with the FRS jedi should get REWARDS, bounty hunters get more rewards for killing them but have to use TACTICS.


Let bounty hunters group vs the higher FRS ranked jedi if its easier for respec bhs like this guy.

Message Edited by Pday on 10-09-2005 05:22 PM



Not trying to bring you down man...yes jedi are the the alpha class. They are very powerfull if used right....some people don't know how to use them. Don't get to mad just trying to share what I think, I been playing for a year just started posting a few days ago.I know your not as powerfull as pre cu but no reason to think that you don't get rewards. Second toon, jedi buffs and when FRS is back I'm sure force regen and such will be faster. Just ganking a jedi I always seemed to think was dumb, soloing them is better anyways.

Message Edited by LordDraconis on 10-09-2005 05:35 PM



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EstoMax
Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:34 pm
#16

I liked the time after the CU when up to 5 BH's could come. That was before the nerf bat hit a home run



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Paladon
Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:35 pm
#17






LordDraconis wrote:

and when FRS is back I'm sure force regen and such will be faster.



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Pday
Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:35 pm
#18






LordDraconis wrote:





Pday wrote:






LordDraconis wrote:






Pday wrote:





LordDraconis wrote:

Underpowered well don't know about that, seems you guys are fine were you are. Besides chances are jedi are going to get nerfed more when FRS comes back. Made a post a few days ago about balance and why cu made you guys alot weaker. http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1251854


Overall jedi is fine were they are I agree they should fix FRS but I don't want to see jedi get too overpowered that they need 5 bh to take them down I always found that very dumb it took that much. Bh solo jedi now because jedi said they didn't like getting ganked by bh grouping. Thats all good but since bh can only solo jedi now I see no reason to really make jedi all that much more powerfull.






a jedi knight should be way more powerful at guardian, and more or less untouchable by masters. a knight should be 2.5x stronger than a regular non jedi proffession template.


the issue was that when bhs could come after me with a 5 man gank squad i could kill them all if i didnt fumble, now 1 bh can drain my entire forcebar, death from 1 or death from 5 bhs is the exact same thing. Death and xp loss.


A frs jedi should be untouchable by a single BH, technically a full temp paddy should be 1.5


Bhs have things way to easy now.








Well did you read my post?, I'll place it again

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1251854

....like I said its about balance. So your saying once you reach knight no bh should not be able to beat you? So you can be worry free trying to make guardain then make master. Well doesn't work that way in this timeline jedi are the bad guys and thus have bountys on their head.






i did read it and it made me wish you were not alowed to post, jedi padawan 1.5, jedi knight 2.5, jedi guardian 4.0 jedi master 6.0, oh and bhs can team up on guardians and masters, you however have to chose when to attack, and not just run in and attack.


Jedi should not be balanced,jedi are an ALPHA class , jedi is the only class to lose xp, and a jedi template takes 32 million xp to complete. Yes jedi have bountys on them, but there is no way a single bh should ever be able to kill a jedi as easy as now, and with the FRS jedi should get REWARDS, bounty hunters get more rewards for killing them but have to use TACTICS.


Let bounty hunters group vs the higher FRS ranked jedi if its easier for respec bhs like this guy.

Message Edited by Pday on 10-09-2005 05:22 PM



Not trying to bring you down man...yes jedi are the the alpha class. They are very powerfull if used right....some people don't know how to use them. Don't get to mad just trying to share what I think, I been playing for a year just started posting a few days ago.I know your not as powerfull as pre cu but no reason to think that your you don't get rewards. Second toon, jedi buffs and when FRS is back I'm sure force regen and such will be faster. Just ganking a jedi I always seemed to think was dumb, soloing them is better anyways.





jedi buffs? second toon? i have a 3rd toon, if jedi wernt supposed to be powerful i would just pay 15 more a month to have it, jedi buffs? i have a 2nd doc account for all my buffs. Issue is no bh should ever solo a full temp like they do now, its to easy in most cases. When the FRS comes back i expect or more demand to be atleast x2 at basic rank 0 knight or its /cancelaccount and a letter sent from me to lucas arts.




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killtheidealist
Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:47 pm
#19






PedricCuff wrote:
OK, the mission selection on the terms is totally random, and there is no way for BHs to draw missions on the same Jedi knowingly, contrary to what you may think.





its completely possible it has happened to myself and others that i know



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agkBenny
Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:52 pm
#20

id much rather have the gank squads back and be more powerful, i once killed 4 bh at once and it was a hell of a fight. Now im lucky to kill a mbh/mcm after 20 minutes of fighting...its just crazy.



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PedricCuff
Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:56 pm
#21






killtheidealist wrote:





PedricCuff wrote:
OK, the mission selection on the terms is totally random, and there is no way for BHs to draw missions on the same Jedi knowingly, contrary to what you may think.





its completely possible it has happened to myself and others that i know




Then it was random. There is no way to draw the same mission on purpose. Yes, even if it has the same bounty, mission creator, etc... No way to draw the same Jedi mission on purpose.




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CabraofGorath
Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:56 pm
#22






LordDraconis wrote:

Underpowered well don't know about that, seems you guys are fine were you are. Besides chances are jedi are going to get nerfed more when FRS comes back. Made a post a few days ago about balance and why cu made you guys alot weaker. http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1251854


Overall jedi is fine were they are I agree they should fix FRS but I don't want to see jedi get too overpowered that they need 5 bh to take them down I always found that very dumb it took that much. Bh solo jedi now because jedi said they didn't like getting ganked by bh grouping. Thats all good but since bh can only solo jedi now I see no reason to really make jedi all that much more powerfull.





sounds like you dont havea jedi....well....your oppinon doesnt matter then cuz you dont understand what its like.



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PedricCuff
Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:00 pm
#23

Of course his opinion matters, he pays the same $15 a month as all of us.



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CabraofGorath
Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:02 pm
#24

no....he cant say jedi is over powered if he doesnt even have one....he has no experience in the field there for it doesnt matter



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PedricCuff
Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:04 pm
#25

I'm no Jedi, but that doesn;t mean I don;t know about their strengths and weaknesses. Don't be so quick to condemn.



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Pday
Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:07 pm
#26






PedricCuff wrote:
I'm no Jedi, but that doesn;t mean I don;t know about their strengths and weaknesses. Don't be so quick to condemn.




actually, you dont know untill you play one, you only know what people think are the weaknesses




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