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Thread: OK Tiggs, there have been 100's of people posting that your wrong on pearl and crystal tuning..

euseb
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:57 am
#14

finally got a decent tune on a "good" crystal. Tuned to 100dmg, -.22spd, -7FC. Not something I would use in my saber, but would be decent for lower level paddies.





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YuthuraMan
Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:59 am
#15

700+ dps, thats something i dont even dream about it in a short term. maybe when they get it in a dam quest ill do it with all my alts, only then id b happy about it...


guess that ll take a long time to happen tho..





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QuiBonJen
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:01 am
#16






Sack_of_poos wrote:





euseb wrote:
finally got a decent tune on a "good" crystal. Tuned to 100dmg, -.22spd, -7FC. Not something I would use in my saber, but would be decent for lower level paddies.





decent for whacking school girls butts maybe





ROFL

YuthuraMan
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:03 am
#17

hey quibon, tell us ur opinion about the pearl thing



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euseb
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:24 am
#18






Sack_of_poos wrote:





euseb wrote:
finally got a decent tune on a "good" crystal. Tuned to 100dmg, -.22spd, -7FC. Not something I would use in my saber, but would be decent for lower level paddies.





decent for whacking school girls butts maybe





Like I said, nothing I would ever use in my saber, but with tuning the way it has been lately I think this might actually be considered decent compared to some of the other tunes coming from "good" pearls/crystals





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Enita
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:27 am
#19


I have tuned over 110 pearls and 40crystals in the last 3 weeks, all either good or quality and the best overall tune was +100 -0.2 -5. the best damage was +108but only -2 FCand out of all those tunes I only had3 that were above +85 max damage and-4 FC

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whippet
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:29 am
#20

I've been collecting pearls since I first heard they we're used in sabers, that was in november 03, I've been a jedi since dec 03. In al lthat time i've tuned one crystal only that hit the caps, never have a tuned a perfect pearl. All in all I've tuned ALOT of pearls and crystals. mostly of premium grade, some flawless (maybe 20).


I've also had -9's off fairs/goods/quality's so i have no reason to beleive that what Tigg's says about all pearls having the possibility to tune perfectly would be a false statement. however I do believe that the chances of this are unrealisticly low. such that to tune a good crystal/pearl perfectly would not be just rare but a one off event across all servers, and will mostly likely never happen.


It would be nice if we could see a slightly greater success chance on these crystals giving padwans a light at the end of the tunnel , this could possibly be acheived by introducing minimum stats for crystals so that although the chances of getting an excellent tune would still be random and rare, there would no longer be any junk tunes and many many people feeling cheated out there hard earned credits by a harsh tuning system.
JarvisW
Sat Sep 03, 2005 5:31 am
#21






euseb wrote:





Sack_of_poos wrote:





euseb wrote:
finally got a decent tune on a "good" crystal. Tuned to 100dmg, -.22spd, -7FC. Not something I would use in my saber, but would be decent for lower level paddies.





decent for whacking school girls butts maybe





Like I said, nothing I would ever use in my saber, but with tuning the way it has been lately I think this might actually be considered decent compared to some of the other tunes coming from "good" pearls/crystals






its MUCH better than anything I've tuned. my top is 92 -3 and 87 -2.


my highest -FC is -8 but its DMG is only 22.



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QuiBonJen
Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:04 am
#22






YuthuraMan wrote:

hey quibon, tell us ur opinion about the pearl thing





I don't know.. I look at it this way, I knew this was going to take for ever to get the premiums back.. I posted that back when they stopped dropping they where going to wait for the frs to come back .. or a new expansion and it looks like I was write... for the most part.. I would like to see Tiggs orTH or someone explain to me why tunes aren't as good as they say they are.. or even better why they took the creatures out that was dropping them.. this hole thing on they where to hard and every one was complaining is kind of bs if you ask me.. so what we had to have a full group of elite profession . to kill one.. kind of what they want in the end any ways... hard to get and hard to find, right.. so why take it out if that's what they want.. kind of silly flip flop if you ask me...

P__Day
Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:11 am
#23

The problem is that the pearl has 3 important stats :


Min/max

Speed

Force cost


Sure there are other stats but they dont seem to be to important or always be 0. Now ive tuned goods to 100/100ish damage, ive tuned goods to -9 and ive tuned goods to -0.26 speed or so, but never on the same pearl/crystal.


YuthuraMan
Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:23 am
#24






QuiBonJen wrote:






YuthuraMan wrote:

hey quibon, tell us ur opinion about the pearl thing





I don't know.. I look at it this way, I knew this was going to take for ever to get the premiums back.. I posted that back when they stopped dropping they where going to wait for the frs to come back .. or a new expansion and it looks like I was write... for the most part.. I would like to see Tiggs orTH or someone explain to me why tunes aren't as good as they say they are.. or even better why they took the creatures out that was dropping them.. this hole thing on they where to hard and every one was complaining is kind of bs if you ask me.. so what we had to have a full group of elite profession . to kill one.. kind of what they want in the end any ways... hard to get and hard to find, right.. so why take it out if that's what they want.. kind of silly flip flop if you ask me...





The DEV team tryed to nerf us with the exp nerf, i think the pearl thing is proposital too. they want to thin us out and Tiggs is just talking bull cuz she s not allowed to say it to our faces "we dont want new jedi anymore, stop playing jedi and go BH, thats what we want right now. "



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QuiBonJen
Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:12 am
#25






YuthuraMan wrote:






QuiBonJen wrote:






YuthuraMan wrote:

hey quibon, tell us ur opinion about the pearl thing





I don't know.. I look at it this way, I knew this was going to take for ever to get the premiums back.. I posted that back when they stopped dropping they where going to wait for the frs to come back .. or a new expansion and it looks like I was write... for the most part.. I would like to see Tiggs orTH or someone explain to me why tunes aren't as good as they say they are.. or even better why they took the creatures out that was dropping them.. this hole thing on they where to hard and every one was complaining is kind of bs if you ask me.. so what we had to have a full group of elite profession . to kill one.. kind of what they want in the end any ways... hard to get and hard to find, right.. so why take it out if that's what they want.. kind of silly flip flop if you ask me...





The DEV team tryed to nerf us with the exp nerf, i think the pearl thing is proposital too. they want to thin us out and Tiggs is just talking bull cuz she s not allowed to say it to our faces "we dont want new jedi anymore, stop playing jedi and go BH, thats what we want right now. "






I don't know.. I can see why people think this.. cause the devs aren't trying to make people happy.. they for the mostpart arepissing people off alot more than they are make them happy.. I mean.. some of the stuff they do isn't going to make every one happy .. andthey can nevermake every one 100% happy no matter what they do.. but to keep premiums from people to make them leave.. I don't see it... loose all the money from every one that is jedi.. kind of crazy if you ask me.. you figure.. every person that has a jedi has 2-3 accounts usually.. not always, but usually.. and that's 45 bucks a jedi.. times that by say 5k... and that 225k a month they would loss.. kind of silly to risk loosing that kind of cash a month... and that's just a rough estimate... on how many jedi there is around... I would say its alot higher than that.. they say there is 100k players in the game if you say there is 10% of that jedi.. I think there is more but last I heard it was close to that... that's 10k of jedi.. loose half if not more than that of people that get fed up with no premiums and the promises of fixing stuff.. and never doing it.. kind of like smuggler.. they are still waiting for some love lol... but to loose that kind of money because they want to cut jedi down.. is silly to think they would do that with them being as greedy as they are... if they wanted less jedi they wouldn't have let it get to where it is.. they are just to lazy some times I feel to do what needs to be done... or there's a ceo that doesn't play the game calling all the shots.. and he probably never seen a star wars move ether... just how can any one that has seen any star wars movie let jedi get in to the state they have put us in this game... the people at obsidian know how to make jedi in a game.. Kotor and Kotor 2 is the best game for jedi.. IMO

HardwiredXMan
Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:01 am
#26






euseb wrote:





Sack_of_poos wrote:





euseb wrote:
finally got a decent tune on a "good" crystal. Tuned to 100dmg, -.22spd, -7FC. Not something I would use in my saber, but would be decent for lower level paddies.





decent for whacking school girls butts maybe





Like I said, nothing I would ever use in my saber, but with tuning the way it has been lately I think this might actually be considered decent compared to some of the other tunes coming from "good" pearls/crystals






OMG! you guys have to be kidding right. I mean that tune is only 20 dam, -.08 spd and -2 FC off from being perfect. what the hell do you guys think we are supposed to get 120, -.30, -9 more than 20% of the time. I'm sorry, that tune is damn good and if anyone thinks it isn't, well then you'll never be satisfied with the tuning process "EVER". You simply can't have a high number of tunes above the one listed above. It should be a very rare thing to get the perfect tune. By you guys standard, the good pearl I tuned last week (-117 dam, -.13 spd, -5 fc) is total crap. Well considering I only had 1 pearl over 100 damage before this tune (had 2 80's and one 61 in my saber previously) I was extremely happy to get the 117 tune.


To say that theabovetune is nothing and you wouldn't use it in your saber shows me that you simply want nothing but the absolute perfect of the perfect stuff and anything less just won't do and your complaining to tiggs. If you have that attitude, you'll never be satisfied. I mean it's almost like saying that legendary weapons should drop 1 in every 10 loot drops pre-CU.


For anyone reading this thread, if you get a tune of 100, -.22, -7......that is a very very good tune. The reason why is because although it's not very close to perfect, it is extremely difficult to get high stats in all three areas on one tune at once, especially with high damage. I have plenty of pearls / crystals with capped speed and SAC but damages lower than 40. The normal tunes will always have one of the 3 areas tune very low most of the time, as I said, if you get all three that high....well then you have a very close relative tothat guy named "PERFECT". I'll take asister/brother tune anyday over a distant cousin...


As for the guy a few post up with the 700+ dps and 730 max damage. Againif your not satisfied with that, then something isvery wrong becausewith the average saber of 145 - 245 with perfectcrystals/pearls, you get725 maxdamage, with a 260 max saber you only get 740 withall 4 perfect tunes....to get over that means you didn't experiement on the SAC of your saber at all and yes that would make the saber crapsince after about 5 swings your out of action.



Honestly some of the people in these forums complaining about the tuning processneed to understand that it's a random thing within a predefined set of rules. We would all like premiums to drop, buteven then you guys would still be complaining because even premiums tuned to 0 damage in the past. I had many premiums tune to less than 20 damage with -.01 speed and 1to 3 FC.....and premiums weren't as easy to get then....now if premiums drop, with roots and other special abilities, premiums would be so easy to get because the people farming CL 111 mobs will just farm any mob that drops premiums and flood the market just like +25 SEA's afew months ago.


Guys, get over it and realize that if you want the absolute most perfect tunes, you either have to tune until your face turns blue or you get lucky likesome of use and get one in less time.


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