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Thread: Squad Leader Correspondent Post:MBH/MSL NOT overpowered

shadowdragon2k
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:03 pm
#14






SpunkyKuma wrote:
"FYI, 1K+ attacks in PvP has always been there for both sides, either Armor Break + Power Attack with a good saber or Sniper Shot with a good weapon. Of course both of these attacks are rather slow."

Oh yeah like you can powerattack every 1 or 2 seconds, instead, as a Jedi you do 500-600 per second or two then a powerattack for a lucky 1000-1200 while that rifleman over there dishes out 1000-1300 per second or two and an occasional 1600. I've done 2100+ dmg snipershot to an enhancer.

I suppose the devs' intention of these average high damage attacks is to shorten combat and duels with just 3K health unbuffed, buffs are as critical as they were pre-CU, and now every daily PVP group that roams the galaxy every afternoon/evening will have a SL or two and if the opposite faction PVP group doesn't have one then they won't live long.




take into mind that Speeds are broken? or did they fix that on beta :-S




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shadowdragon2k
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:26 pm
#15






Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





shadowdragon2k wrote:


If you want a little advice soon as you see anyone roll up get with in 20m of them Presto no more 5/6k damage......if you havent caught on yet Snipershot has a range limit. soon as they attack /root or /snare and keep them upclose





This, of course, assumes you're not snared immediately after the snipershot...






all im saying is many of you do and will see the BH comeing from afar. soon as you see that lil blue/purple dot (depends on your BH's) before theyve got enogth time to get prone get with in their 20m. if they use a snare first, cry.


what i am VERY surprised at is no one has petitioned for the root/snares range to be increased yet..........(i know i know im giveing ideas away but I WANT SOME DAMN CHALLANGE when Hunting.)






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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:29 pm
#16

They might increase it, but I'm doubtful.


32m is the magic number for Jedi for some reason. Vis proximity, saberthrow, lightning. Only thing that breaks that rule is cloak proximity (thank god).





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eternalfool
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:35 pm
#17






shadowdragon2k wrote:





Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





shadowdragon2k wrote:


If you want a little advice soon as you see anyone roll up get with in 20m of them Presto no more 5/6k damage......if you havent caught on yet Snipershot has a range limit. soon as they attack /root or /snare and keep them upclose





This, of course, assumes you're not snared immediately after the snipershot...






all im saying is many of you do and will see the BH comeing from afar. soon as you see that lil blue/purple dot (depends on your BH's) before theyve got enogth time to get prone get with in their 20m. if they use a snare first, cry.


what i am VERY surprised at is no one has petitioned for the root/snares range to be increased yet..........(i know i know im giveing ideas away but I WANT SOME DAMN CHALLANGE when Hunting.)







Normally that 5-6k damage shot will incap you.. making any tactics on your part, no matter how inspired or brilliant... pointless.



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shadowdragon2k
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:56 pm
#18






eternalfool wrote:





shadowdragon2k wrote:





Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





shadowdragon2k wrote:


If you want a little advice soon as you see anyone roll up get with in 20m of them Presto no more 5/6k damage......if you havent caught on yet Snipershot has a range limit. soon as they attack /root or /snare and keep them upclose





This, of course, assumes you're not snared immediately after the snipershot...






all im saying is many of you do and will see the BH comeing from afar. soon as you see that lil blue/purple dot (depends on your BH's) before theyve got enogth time to get prone get with in their 20m. if they use a snare first, cry.


what i am VERY surprised at is no one has petitioned for the root/snares range to be increased yet..........(i know i know im giveing ideas away but I WANT SOME DAMN CHALLANGE when Hunting.)







Normally that 5-6k damage shot will incap you.. making any tactics on your part, no matter how inspired or brilliant... pointless.





the idea of this tactic is not to allow them to get a sniper shot off. if you see a BH comeing from over 100m, you buff up either run up or FR and keep away. youll have about a second for him to get prone a few seconds for his aim to kick in (sure hit) and then a few seconds for his Snipershot to warm up if you can get with in 20m in those few seconds the sniper shot wont iniate causeing him to rethink his tactic quickly. if you somehow get with in 32m and know you wont make the 20m then use a KD!. MSL/Mbh/Rifles doesnt seem to have much healing does it?. now add valor + msabers and you got about a 50% chance of blocking it anyway. your position is not doom'ed use tactics if you cant get with him 32m-20m of him run away and get to a more urban enviroment where all you need to do is turn a corner and his attacks are useless




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Ok thats it, ive seen the trailers and RF-O deffintly looks better than SWG will ever be now. check out the movies!!
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:00 pm
#19






shadowdragon2k wrote:





eternalfool wrote:





shadowdragon2k wrote:





Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





shadowdragon2k wrote:


If you want a little advice soon as you see anyone roll up get with in 20m of them Presto no more 5/6k damage......if you havent caught on yet Snipershot has a range limit. soon as they attack /root or /snare and keep them upclose





This, of course, assumes you're not snared immediately after the snipershot...






all im saying is many of you do and will see the BH comeing from afar. soon as you see that lil blue/purple dot (depends on your BH's) before theyve got enogth time to get prone get with in their 20m. if they use a snare first, cry.


what i am VERY surprised at is no one has petitioned for the root/snares range to be increased yet..........(i know i know im giveing ideas away but I WANT SOME DAMN CHALLANGE when Hunting.)







Normally that 5-6k damage shot will incap you.. making any tactics on your part, no matter how inspired or brilliant... pointless.





the idea of this tactic is not to allow them to get a sniper shot off. if you see a BH comeing from over 100m, you buff up either run up or FR and keep away. youll have about a second for him to get prone a few seconds for his aim to kick in (sure hit) and then a few seconds for his Snipershot to warm up if you can get with in 20m in those few seconds the sniper shot wont iniate causeing him to rethink his tactic quickly. if you somehow get with in 32m and know you wont make the 20m then use a KD!. MSL/Mbh/Rifles doesnt seem to have much healing does it?. now add valor + msabers and you got about a 50% chance of blocking it anyway. your position is not doom'ed use tactics if you cant get with him 32m-20m of him run away and get to a more urban enviroment where all you need to do is turn a corner and his attacks are useless




I have a pretty decent computer and a phatter than average cable connect (6.0). There's been times when there's alot on the screen going on, that the blip doesn't show until 60m away...




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shadowdragon2k
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:06 pm
#20






Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





shadowdragon2k wrote:





eternalfool wrote:





shadowdragon2k wrote:





Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





shadowdragon2k wrote:


If you want a little advice soon as you see anyone roll up get with in 20m of them Presto no more 5/6k damage......if you havent caught on yet Snipershot has a range limit. soon as they attack /root or /snare and keep them upclose





This, of course, assumes you're not snared immediately after the snipershot...






all im saying is many of you do and will see the BH comeing from afar. soon as you see that lil blue/purple dot (depends on your BH's) before theyve got enogth time to get prone get with in their 20m. if they use a snare first, cry.


what i am VERY surprised at is no one has petitioned for the root/snares range to be increased yet..........(i know i know im giveing ideas away but I WANT SOME DAMN CHALLANGE when Hunting.)







Normally that 5-6k damage shot will incap you.. making any tactics on your part, no matter how inspired or brilliant... pointless.





the idea of this tactic is not to allow them to get a sniper shot off. if you see a BH comeing from over 100m, you buff up either run up or FR and keep away. youll have about a second for him to get prone a few seconds for his aim to kick in (sure hit) and then a few seconds for his Snipershot to warm up if you can get with in 20m in those few seconds the sniper shot wont iniate causeing him to rethink his tactic quickly. if you somehow get with in 32m and know you wont make the 20m then use a KD!. MSL/Mbh/Rifles doesnt seem to have much healing does it?. now add valor + msabers and you got about a 50% chance of blocking it anyway. your position is not doom'ed use tactics if you cant get with him 32m-20m of him run away and get to a more urban enviroment where all you need to do is turn a corner and his attacks are useless




I have a pretty decent computer and a phatter than average cable connect (6.0). There's been times when there's alot on the screen going on, that the blip doesn't show until 60m away...






nice connection. and i know what your saying but the problem is.......if you dont see it then sorry bro. same as any grinding jedi (im not being nasty or flameing btw) if a grinding jedi doesnt see a BH walk up to him and then paralyze him whos fault is it?. keep your radar on +100 and press the overhead map up soon as you see anything run. its your only option for now




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Tanks
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:43 am
#21






Bernoullie2 wrote:




I guess...1000+ dmg attacks in PvP are not gamebreaking




FYI, 1K+ attacks in PvP has always been there for both sides, either Armor Break + Power Attack with a good saber or Sniper Shot with a good weapon. Of course both of these attacks are rather slow.




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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:49 am
#22






Vegitaa wrote:





BukuJohnson wrote:





Phenix1050 wrote:





killtheidealist wrote:
not as long bh have it. it would only get nerfed if jedi have that ability



is there some law forbidding a Jedi from having a SL buff?







Yes it's called first strike which allows the hunter to engage while fully buffed, or is every Jedi supposed to carry an alt SL in his pocket now?


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Sure answers the question of "What Combat Class should my alt (2nd acct) crafter have..."


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Erynder
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:54 am
#23






Tanks wrote:





Bernoullie2 wrote:




I guess...1000+ dmg attacks in PvP are not gamebreaking




FYI, 1K+ attacks in PvP has always been there for both sides, either Armor Break + Power Attack with a good saber or Sniper Shot with a good weapon. Of course both of these attacks are rather slow.







Yup, but the tables have changed sir. Speed snares will overrun buffs, and action costs for healing are increased greatly. So, SL / BH snarekite >>> Any Jedi including the best sabers. I can see MANY Jedi deaths without even touching the BH. Ranged has an incredible advantage over melee now.


This comes from a Jedi, me, who has only died 3 times to a BH / BH group in 16 months of living on BH terminals.




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shadowdragon2k
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:56 am
#24


If you want a little advice soon as you see anyone roll up get with in 20m of them Presto no more 5/6k damage......if you havent caught on yet Snipershot has a range limit. soon as they attack /root or /snare and keep them upclose




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Ok thats it, ive seen the trailers and RF-O deffintly looks better than SWG will ever be now. check out the movies!!
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