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Thread: Squad Leader Correspondent Post:MBH/MSL NOT overpowered

Erynder
Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:54 am
#1






Tanks wrote:





Bernoullie2 wrote:




I guess...1000+ dmg attacks in PvP are not gamebreaking




FYI, 1K+ attacks in PvP has always been there for both sides, either Armor Break + Power Attack with a good saber or Sniper Shot with a good weapon. Of course both of these attacks are rather slow.







Yup, but the tables have changed sir. Speed snares will overrun buffs, and action costs for healing are increased greatly. So, SL / BH snarekite >>> Any Jedi including the best sabers. I can see MANY Jedi deaths without even touching the BH. Ranged has an incredible advantage over melee now.


This comes from a Jedi, me, who has only died 3 times to a BH / BH group in 16 months of living on BH terminals.




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Bernoullie2
Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:33 am
#2




http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=squad_leader&message.id=29013





robpro wrote:

I think this will be a good bh template and all out PvP template.




Yeah, I've been paying real close attention to the MBH/MSL/CM4000 combo in the beta and on TC myself. It generally looks like you've got a pretty good handle there on the all-around utility of the upcoming Squad Leader enhancements. Not gamebreaking, but definitely a force to be reckoned with in the hands of a knowledgeable player.




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I guess 1 hit incaps and 1000+ dmg attacks in PvP are not gamebreaking
ocili
Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:40 am
#3






Bernoullie2 wrote:




http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=squad_leader&message.id=29013





robpro wrote:

I think this will be a good bh template and all out PvP template.




Yeah, I've been paying real close attention to the MBH/MSL/CM4000 combo in the beta and on TC myself. It generally looks like you've got a pretty good handle there on the all-around utility of the upcoming Squad Leader enhancements. Not gamebreaking, but definitely a force to be reckoned with in the hands of a knowledgeable player.




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I guess 1 hit incaps and 1000+ dmg attacks in PvP are not gamebreaking





I hit incaps are impossible now that they "fixed" the damage buff from 257% to 125%.



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Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:41 am
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killtheidealist
Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:47 am
#5

not as long bh have it. it would only get nerfed if jedi have that ability



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Phenix1050
Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:49 am
#6






killtheidealist wrote:
not as long bh have it. it would only get nerfed if jedi have that ability



is there some law forbidding a Jedi from having a SL buff?



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Punanisher
Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:53 am
#7



Phenix1050 wrote:


killtheidealist wrote:
not as long bh have it. it would only get nerfed if jedi have that ability

is there some law forbidding a Jedi from having a SL buff?





/agree





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BukuJohnson
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:04 am
#8



Phenix1050 wrote:


killtheidealist wrote:
not as long bh have it. it would only get nerfed if jedi have that ability

is there some law forbidding a Jedi from having a SL buff?





Yes it's called first strike which allows the hunter to engage while fully buffed, or is every Jedi supposed to carry an alt SL in his pocket now?


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mindspat
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:05 am
#9

The buffs are nice to have in a group.


I had been able to see that these buffs will be negated when a BH-TEF is applied to both parties _if_ the SL buff was from a fellow group member.


Would like to see how they work with SL/BH template.




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Mythrindir
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:07 am
#10

MLS/MSL/1000 CM.



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Vegitaa
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:08 am
#11






BukuJohnson wrote:





Phenix1050 wrote:





killtheidealist wrote:
not as long bh have it. it would only get nerfed if jedi have that ability



is there some law forbidding a Jedi from having a SL buff?







Yes it's called first strike which allows the hunter to engage while fully buffed, or is every Jedi supposed to carry an alt SL in his pocket now?


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Daeges
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:10 am
#12






lunasher wrote:





Phenix1050 wrote:





killtheidealist wrote:
not as long bh have it. it would only get nerfed if jedi have that ability



is there some law forbidding a Jedi from having a SL buff?





/agree





Is there some law? Yes, Murphy's law. No BH worth his weight is going to hit a mark when the mark is buffed with doctor and/or SL buffs. He'll wait and pick his moment of advantage. Once Teff'd, only the BH will then have the opportunity to take advantage of these buffs. Unlike food, spice, skill tapes, and most other benefits which can effect the balance of a fight, jedi often don't get to prepare for their fight.


Because of this, I don't see many templates where BH's pick up squad leader. The BH's will have a buddy carry squad leader and bring them to buff them right before the strike, leaving all the template for BH's devoted to more firepower and healing.




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SpunkyKuma
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:02 pm
#13

"FYI, 1K+ attacks in PvP has always been there for both sides, either Armor Break + Power Attack with a good saber or Sniper Shot with a good weapon. Of course both of these attacks are rather slow."

Oh yeah like you can powerattack every 1 or 2 seconds, instead, as a Jedi you do 500-600 per second or two then a powerattack for a lucky 1000-1200 while that rifleman over there dishes out 1000-1300 per second or two and an occasional 1600. I've done 2100+ dmg snipershot to an enhancer.

I suppose the devs' intention of these average high damage attacks is to shorten combat and duels with just 3K health unbuffed, buffs are as critical as they were pre-CU, and now every daily PVP group that roams the galaxy every afternoon/evening will have a SL or two and if the opposite faction PVP group doesn't have one then they won't live long.



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