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I would rather have them be more open about the whole thing. It would actually engender alot more understanding and have the community giving feedback the whole way.

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AvataroftheSith wrote:

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EvilAztec wrote:
I would rather have them be more open about the whole thing. It would actually engender alot more understanding and have the community giving feedback the whole way.

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True. A lot of this could be avoided with more openness.

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You are dealing with human beings. Fat chance of that happening. Maybe on some ABC after school special.

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Cukova wrote:

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AvataroftheSith wrote:

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EvilAztec wrote:
I would rather have them be more open about the whole thing. It would actually engender alot more understanding and have the community giving feedback the whole way.

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True. A lot of this could be avoided with more openness.

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You are dealing with human beings. Fat chance of that happening. Maybe on some ABC after school special.

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I'm sorry but I have to disagree. The fact that FRS ranks were limited was the reason FRS was broke. Al the xploiting, griefing, and hate and not going to pvp unless you had a group of 20 originated from ranks being limited. The new FRS will not limit the ranks, that will hurt causal gamers, and make them quit. Why the FRS went down in the first place. If they don't limit the ranks, they will not add all that much of powers into FRS. Simply there is no real "good" way to bring FRS back. FRS broke pvp, most of you people were grinding jedi and weren't around for it. All of us vet jedi are happy that FRS is down. We actually play the game, pvp and enjoy it. Not be forced to fight each other for limited ranks, not be discouraged to log on after few days of rl being a @$$ and u being unable to log, knowing u have lost a few ranks just for not being able to play couple of days. We no longer have to worry about losing pvp xp, so who cars ? we go try to fight a out numbered battle, back in the days, people would FR3 around all planets until they have the larger group to fight. Alot of grief ws in pvp, alot of casual gamers were forced out of it. Hence why FRS is down and why it wont come back. DEVs want jedi to be more balanced with other professions, FRS wont give you guys extra powers .... trust me on this.

but, the frs isnt bringing my faith in soe back, my faith that this game will ever be as good as pre cu, and isnt bringing the mass amount of friends back i used to have before the cu. is all this mess worth even one of the things we lost?

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felipz wrote:
I had faith in the devs when they were making the cu too... well after I joined tc ep3 I learned my lesson to never trust them again.

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Here's my issue with the whole thing. The constant need to balance out everything. Unfortunately things will always be out of balance. There will always be ways for someone of one profession to easily beat another unless everyone has the same skills, at the same levels with the same weapons. This of course would be very boring. Jedi are supposed to be the elites of the elite. We are supposed to be more powerful than the other professions. And shouldnt it make sense that its so? After all, why would someone who has the experience of two elite professions be more powerful than someone who had to do the equivalent of mastering elite professions several times over. The experience required to obtain a box of jedi skills is a more than 1.5 times that of a pistoleer or bh or anything else. Shouldnt the work (read: training) that goes into learning jedi skills give the reward that is definately justified? I really dont understand the complaints about cloaking, you cant attack while cloaked without breaking the cloak. The tactical advantage of cloaking is a strategic tactic that not everyone can take advantage of, and some wouldnt in favor of other strategies. There are some riflemen i have seen who charge in and practically tank, while others stay back, take cover and shoot from the safety of distance. I think that nerfing, snaring, whatever is the method of 'balancing' out what is perceived as overpowered abilities, has to reach a point where we say that someone has to be stronger, better than someone else. In the star wars galaxy, that is Jedi.

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Rutigrr wrote:
Here's my issue with the whole thing. The constant need to balance out everything. Unfortunately things will always be out of balance. There will always be ways for someone of one profession to easily beat another unless everyone has the same skills, at the same levels with the same weapons. This of course would be very boring. Jedi are supposed to be the elites of the elite. We are supposed to be more powerful than the other professions. And shouldnt it make sense that its so? After all, why would someone who has the experience of two elite professions be more powerful than someone who had to do the equivalent of mastering elite professions several times over. The experience required to obtain a box of jedi skills is a more than 1.5 times that of a pistoleer or bh or anything else. Shouldnt the work (read: training) that goes into learning jedi skills give the reward that is definately justified? I really dont understand the complaints about cloaking, you cant attack while cloaked without breaking the cloak. The tactical advantage of cloaking is a strategic tactic that not everyone can take advantage of, and some wouldnt in favor of other strategies. There are some riflemen i have seen who charge in and practically tank, while others stay back, take cover and shoot from the safety of distance. I think that nerfing, snaring, whatever is the method of 'balancing' out what is perceived as overpowered abilities, has to reach a point where we say that someone has to be stronger, better than someone else. In the star wars galaxy, that is Jedi.

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I LUB JOO

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Rutigrr wrote:
Here's my issue with the whole thing. The constant need to balance out everything. Unfortunately things will always be out of balance. There will always be ways for someone of one profession to easily beat another unless everyone has the same skills, at the same levels with the same weapons. This of course would be very boring. Jedi are supposed to be the elites of the elite. We are supposed to be more powerful than the other professions. And shouldnt it make sense that its so? After all, why would someone who has the experience of two elite professions be more powerful than someone who had to do the equivalent of mastering elite professions several times over. The experience required to obtain a box of jedi skills is a more than 1.5 times that of a pistoleer or bh or anything else. Shouldnt the work (read: training) that goes into learning jedi skills give the reward that is definately justified? I really dont understand the complaints about cloaking, you cant attack while cloaked without breaking the cloak. The tactical advantage of cloaking is a strategic tactic that not everyone can take advantage of, and some wouldnt in favor of other strategies. There are some riflemen i have seen who charge in and practically tank, while others stay back, take cover and shoot from the safety of distance. I think that nerfing, snaring, whatever is the method of 'balancing' out what is perceived as overpowered abilities, has to reach a point where we say that someone has to be stronger, better than someone else. In the star wars galaxy, that is Jedi.

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good pts.

and like i said, i am not here to say what they come up with will be the answer. we all know you cant please everyone. I do feel that we should be an elite proff. and knights should be stronger then padys.. guardians >knights, and masters >guardians.

We all know that..... I feel SOE knows that. I just believe that we should give them more time to get it right. I would much rather wait 6 months for it to be right, then 2 months for it to be wrong

THAT SAID..... I feel that the process to glowy... should be time based. I will say that. It should be a honor to get glowey. For me it was.. .took me nearly 2 years. not 2 weeks......

I have no problem with the village per say...minor changes here and there...

pady trials.. I had fun with those... the grinding sucks... but until knight.. i should be a grind.. .from knight trials on.. that is where it should be high end content... and exciting...

and that is where i think SOE is focusing creatvity too.... just have to be patient,

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Artimities wrote:

Before you bash me, let me just say that I think what we are seeing with these nerfs are a prelude to better things. It might not seem that way now. In fact I agree with everyone that the changes hurt us a lot more than help us. I do know for a fact that they are working hard to bring back the FRS, and make it worthwhile.. it is just a matter of fixing other things first. I want my jedi to be powerful, and I think that we should be able to force run and not be snared. I like the ability to cloak... all that. We can sit here and argue to we are blue in the face, and its not gonna make a difference. Lets just bite our tongues, and give them a few months..... and lets see if they can start to reorganize our profession into what it should be. One of honor, stealth, power, and mind.

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Saereth wrote:

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Artimities wrote:

Before you bash me, let me just say that I think what we are seeing with these nerfs are a prelude to better things. It might not seem that way now. In fact I agree with everyone that the changes hurt us a lot more than help us. I do know for a fact that they are working hard to bring back the FRS, and make it worthwhile.. it is just a matter of fixing other things first. I want my jedi to be powerful, and I think that we should be able to force run and not be snared. I like the ability to cloak... all that. We can sit here and argue to we are blue in the face, and its not gonna make a difference. Lets just bite our tongues, and give them a few months..... and lets see if they can start to reorganize our profession into what it should be. One of honor, stealth, power, and mind.

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IMO you are being overly optimistic, the devs wont even give us the dignity of an ETA much less actually implement it, personally if FRS AND Pearls arent fixed by new years there will be 1 less jedi around for people to complain about over populating the world.

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How can you give ETA on something is not even figured out and planned out yet ? They haven't found a way to bring FRS back without hurting pvp. You are asking them to do the impossible. Let me ask you, can you give me an ETA on when we will be able to move to moon and start a life there ?

there is FRS in the beta testing right now, i would love to be testing it, but the jedi options were locked out after a certain number of jedi, and i didnt get there in time