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Thread: When jedi are removed from the GCW

Ezis
Thu May 26, 2005 6:38 am
#14

Me Jedi Pirate never be removed from the GCW, lest ye devs wish to fetch an ale, swab the deck, and walk the plank... Backwards!!!!



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WookieOgre
Thu May 26, 2005 6:40 am
#15






SamhainLFC wrote:

Since this is the jedi forum, i figure it is a good place to ask this question. Rumors always fly about jedi beingremoved from the gcw and made their own faction,etc.


What is the latest news on this wonderful idea?

Please take your jedi whining to another thread, its just a question.






I'll try to answer without flaming.


Jedi will be removed from the GCW the day CH, CM, and any profession using +Root+ will be removed as well. After all, a group with those professions have a HUGE advantage over a group without them. Heck, I think Smuggler should be the first profession removed after Jedi since they have uber crowdcontrol specials. I mean a group with a Smuggler will win if the other group does not have one.....so I guess that means Smuggler must be banned from joining the GCW as well then lol.


See how utterly stupid that sounds? Why does everyone not see if Jedi is a problem, then your group should go get Jedi to counter them just as they would say if Smuggler was a problem then your group should be out there looking for a Smuggler to join your group instead of whinning how uber Smugglers are.


Foundre
Thu May 26, 2005 6:41 am
#16






SITHDUKE wrote:

So you don't see anything wrong with everyone perticipating in a War of this era, yet those who chose to go Jedi are left out with nothing to do? What a wonderful idea...





I guess that goes along with the idea that we chose to play a profession that don't exist in this era...none of it will make sense.



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KJFett3
Thu May 26, 2005 6:42 am
#17






Eleutherios wrote:

OK, maybe some of those Jedi are on the terms and want protection. But most of them are not, from what I've seen (walking around and checking the terms.)


A Jedi's grind is supposed to be hard. It's supposed to be long. It's supposed to be the hardest grind possible in the game. It's a tradeoff -- take longer and do it solo and don't worry about bounty hunters, or have it go quicker but get on the terms. Some do athird option and stand around healing people at random in the middle of crowded cities.


It's really absurd. Being a Jedi should be secretive. You are a criminal, you know...




Only those that oppose the Empire are criminals. Those that work for the Empire are allowed to enforce its will, and some even receive traninig from the Emperor himself.




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KJFett3
Thu May 26, 2005 6:45 am
#18






Foundre wrote:





SITHDUKE wrote:

So you don't see anything wrong with everyone perticipating in a War of this era, yet those who chose to go Jedi are left out with nothing to do? What a wonderful idea...





I guess that goes along with the idea that we chose to play a profession that don't exist in this era...none of it will make sense.




What profession did you pick? With over 10,000 jedi in EP2, I don't recall seeing more than a few hundred killed between Ep2 and 3. Then Ben reset the coder to warn the rest to stay away....nothing said they all died...and it would be easy to see how they would continue training etc.




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Buckman
Thu May 26, 2005 6:45 am
#19

The day they remove Jedi from the GCW is the day regular professions whine that there is noone to fight in the GCW.



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Daadian
Thu May 26, 2005 6:47 am
#20



OK, maybe some of those Jedi are on the terms and want protection. But most of them are not, from what I've seen (walking around and checking the terms.)


A Jedi's grind is supposed to be hard. It's supposed to be long. It's supposed to be the hardest grind possible in the game. It's a tradeoff -- take longer and do it solo and don't worry about bounty hunters, or have it go quicker but get on the terms. Some do athird option and stand around healing people at random in the middle of crowded cities.


It's really absurd. Being a Jedi should be secretive. You are a criminal, you know...





Thats all fine and good, but I was just saying why you see so many in robes and sabers. If Jedi could get reasonable xp solo then many many more would take that route.



SOE's philosophy in a nutshell is this. If someone or a group of people are special, and different from others, then by all means strip the special people of the things that made them special in the first place. Do this so that the not- so- special people dont feel bad about themselves. By all means DO NOT encourage the not- so -special people to strive to themselves become special. Its not like we all didnt start with 250 credits a cdef and a melon.
Eleutherios
Thu May 26, 2005 6:49 am
#21

"Only those that oppose the Empire are criminals. Those that work for the Empire are allowed to enforce its will, and some even receive traninig from the Emperor himself."


Not in SWG. On the terminals, there's a brief description of the bounty. Sometimes it's because some Jedi stole a guy's floating apple when he was a kid, sometimes it's because a Jedi killed their family. But sometimes, it's a bounty from the Empire which reads (paraphrase) like "The Empire has no need for Jedi, regardless of their political affiliation..."



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EvilAztec
Thu May 26, 2005 6:50 am
#22


Oh and about the robes/saber in town though, thank the devs. "Gone are the days of Jedi in composite armor." I believe that's what was said. Equipping (or unequipping) either in front of PC's and NPC's gives you vis. Leaving them up doesn't. Thank your dev again.


Then again what could they do? BH were screaming about us wearing composite, so they put the robes in. If you are MLS you'd better have that saber equipped.


Oh well, such is.





Eleutherios wrote:

OK, maybe some of those Jedi are on the terms and want protection. But most of them are not, from what I've seen (walking around and checking the terms.)


A Jedi's grind is supposed to be hard. It's supposed to be long. It's supposed to be the hardest grind possible in the game. It's a tradeoff -- take longer and do it solo and don't worry about bounty hunters, or have it go quicker but get on the terms. Some do athird option and stand around healing people at random in the middle of crowded cities.


It's really absurd. Being a Jedi should be secretive. You are a criminal, you know...









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Andurilh
Thu May 26, 2005 6:52 am
#23


Guys and gals,


Don't feed these people. Show restraint and just let it drop off the page.
koldbones
Thu May 26, 2005 6:53 am
#24






BooshkaUK wrote:
I think the idea of Jedi v Jedi is a pretty good idea, sort of like when Darth Maul appears, Obi and Qui-gon (sp?) says "We'll handle this", well in the same way, theres a huge PvP battle going on, with say 5 DJK on one side and several Light on the other, the LJK and the DJK battle it out while around them the battle rages with the only help Jedi being able to give to non-jedi classes is healing, no help can be given to the Jedi though, might be worth it especially if battlefields get sorted out.





So what your saying is that you WANT to USE the abilites of the jedi to benefit you but you dont want jedi to be able to join your fight? Have youhad any jedi vs jedi fights? Have you seen how long it takes>? Its ridicules. There is no fun in jedi pvp at all its just a wait to see who runs out of force first, atleast with a non jedi there is a rush that you might or might not win.
KeeferKman
Thu May 26, 2005 6:55 am
#25


If you take Jedi out of GWC content, you will have a game like any other. As long as you have jedi on both sides of a battle, you have balance. A group of Jedi with a group of Elite players is the most powerfull combination.


If your tired of getting Pwned, don't cry, strategize better...make some Jedi friends...prepare for battle, not just run into and expect to be Uber.


You get a group with a Jedi or two, a Smuggler, MCM, Rifles, CH, Carbineer, Pike, and even doctor....you will clean up on Theed. That's what the games about. In SWG, Han Solo and Luke and Chewbacca, and R2D2, and Leia all complimented each other and supported each other in battle. They didn't expect to just walk in to a herd of stormies and take them all out.


Jedi are cool to love or hate...without us the game would be lessened whether you can admit it or not.



Message Edited by KeeferKman on 05-26-2005 09:56 AM





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Maxanto
Thu May 26, 2005 6:55 am
#26






KJFett3 wrote:





Daadian wrote:
take us out of GCW, and take away alot of Jedi haters ammo. Jedi vs Jedi, Jedi vs BH, Jedi vs consenting duelest. We could get more power back, and it would also discourage uber leet doods from becoming Jedi. Lets face it, "pwning" people is not something a Jedi should be interested in, Jedi are defensive by nature not offensive. I am now and have always been for taking us out GCW, its practical on alot of levels.






Maybe you as a jedi are defensive, but me and those of my guild all work for the Emperor. We are all about keeping his rule and kicking the rear of all those that dare oppose him. Just because you want to crawl in a hole on some barren planet and hide doesn't mean the rest of us do. Jedi are apart of the GCW. It would not exist without us.






Actually, KJFett3, if the Emperor knew about you he would squash you. Maybe you should try learning more about the story before flaunting your ignorance.


Daadian, Please note: Jedi are defensive in nature, Dark Jedi are not. Dark jedi of this era had it bad. Everyone hunted them. The Empire, Bounty Hunters, Jedi, The rebellion...etc


We dark Jedi may align (As I do) with the empire in secret but if the Empire ever knew we were Dark Jedi we would be crushed.





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