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Thread: You want more skillpoints? Consider this...
MsNiL
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:56 am
#14
I could survive without the Master Enhancer and Master Healer stuff really. I bet many could go without Avoid Incap as well. The Master Power stuff is still a bit useful, and so is Master Lightsaber, so moving "down" some stuff into the skillines(like some of the speed/accuracy bonuses) is probably required.
FanofFlaw wrote:
Good idea other than doing away with master boxes. Well, keep MLS at least.
SoloBacca1
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:56 am
#15
MsNil, you should check the Forums to find the piece that ThunderHeart, better called TH, said that we cannot get our 24 Remove'd because that would be like removing TKA's nessarcy Brawler skills and such... but we have proved that we get less tree's then those with the Pre-Rquested Skills... Your idea balance it well, I think... let me see I got like... Defender Novice, LightSaber Novice, Enhancer Novice, Healer Novice, thats like 4x8=32 free SP's lol... going to use them on Power's and get Cloak, or more Defender then just Aura in my currently template, not to mention I am Master LightSaber soo like 33 SKill Points...
FanofFlaw
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:57 am
#16
MsNiL wrote:
I could survive without the Master Enhancer and Master Healer stuff really. I bet many could go without Avoid Incap as well. The Master Power stuff is still a bit useful, and so is Master Lightsaber, so moving "down" some stuff into the skillines(like some of the speed/accuracy bonuses) is probably required.
FanofFlaw wrote:
Good idea other than doing away with master boxes. Well, keep MLS at least.
Just make them require no skill points. Then we could have what we wanted. Im sure someone wants master enhancer.
Maximus_Bane
Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:59 am
#17
FanofFlaw wrote:Then its genius.
This would actually make me resubscribe for now.
The idea is a good one. your reply gave me a good laugh on top of the nice idea. I think a little laugh is needed on these forums right now.
bjeezy01
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:01 am
#18
uptight people, new ideas for it, devs that wont listen in any case....Im staying but I learned I can have more funsitting inmy house getting hate tells
Eskie
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:01 am
#19
MsNiL wrote:I could survive without the Master Enhancer and Master Healer stuff really. I bet many could go without Avoid Incap as well. The Master Power stuff is still a bit useful, and so is Master Lightsaber, so moving "down" some stuff into the skillines (like some of the speed/accuracy bonuses) is probably required.
FanofFlaw wrote:
Good idea other than doing away with master boxes. Well, keep MLS at least.
I disagree on Master Enhancer not being useful. But rather than the Novice boxes not costing SP, I would rather prefer FS boxes not costing any SP.
MsNiL
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:04 am
#20
Then you have the whole affair about 0040 Enhancer yet again. I believe most Master Enhancers you ask will tell you a thing or two about 0040 Enhancer and them wasting 20 points on it.Better place a weakened Stasis in 4000 Enhancer or 0040 Wielder in that case. Maybe Regain Conciousness in 0400 Healer. Remember that the limits are removed, so it doesnt change a thing if a power is in a Healer box or in a Lightsaber box anymore, all Jedi can dabble in Tier 4 for just 20 sp, regardless in which tree it is.
FanofFlaw wrote:
Just make them require no skill points. Then we could have what we wanted. Im sure someone wants master enhancer.
MsNiL wrote:
I could survive without the Master Enhancer and Master Healer stuff really. I bet many could go without Avoid Incap as well. The Master Power stuff is still a bit useful, and so is Master Lightsaber, so moving "down" some stuff into the skillines(like some of the speed/accuracy bonuses) is probably required.
The suggested layout is very similar to how our FS stuff looks today, except that all Jedi learns Absorb, Force Heal, Force Hit and some Lightsaber bonuses and defensebonuses for free, in their "Jedi package" so to speak.
Considering all Jedi will be somewhat more powerful out of this change, "good old stasis" isnt a major loss, as the things you can now dabble in improves you above that.
Message Edited by MsNiL on 10-24-2005 07:06 PM
bjeezy01
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:07 am
#22
Its a hot idea that is for sure...would love to see it happen...one day either FS sp that are used are cancled out and given backc once you get jedi....or you get the drop the boxes....or the idea of having no sp for novices or at least 1 sp max
Maximus_Bane
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:08 am
#23
Eskie wrote:
MsNiL wrote:I could survive without the Master Enhancer and Master Healer stuff really. I bet many could go without Avoid Incap as well. The Master Power stuff is still a bit useful, and so is Master Lightsaber, so moving "down" some stuff into the skillines (like some of the speed/accuracy bonuses) is probably required.
FanofFlaw wrote:
Good idea other than doing away with master boxes. Well, keep MLS at least.
I disagree on Master Enhancer not being useful. But rather than the Novice boxes not costing SP, I would rather prefer FS boxes not costing any SP.
Force sensative skills costing skill points has always been an issue. However if we made them free then any charecter could use them for free. Giving the BH that comes for you the ability to add +12 to speed and accuracy at the cost of no skill points isn't the asnwer either.
I would like to see them still cost points but as you progress in the Jedi trees you get a Skill point rebate. stagered in a way that once you spend all your SP in jedi (IE: Full Template) you completely negate the FS skills cost. (Up to 24 Skill Points)
bjeezy01
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:11 am
#24
no read my idea.....once you enable jedi....the skills should be given back to you...but after 6 lines you will be using sp up
Neomonk
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:12 am
#25
I really like the idea except for getting rid of the master boxes. I like getting the +500 force pool for mastering. It helps create diverse templates because you have to choose to master to get more force and regen or you can dabble to get more skills but less force and regen.
AnzelVincir
Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:12 am
#26
I'd be happy to just have my LS fixed. I can do more damage as any other Elite profession right now.
What's funny about this is that the master box for LS costs 3.2 million Jedi XP. That one box alone costs more XP than an entire "regular" template in terms of XP and yet I still do less damage...