Jedi Archive
Thread: Improving Force Defender
Slash_DPC wrote:
Force Defender is fine how it is. By improving it, you're only asking for the devs to mess it up.
AI should just stay in Defender. It can still be used to tank, don't believe me, come watch me on TC-Prime.
Message Edited by Mistwaver on 10-17-2005 06:35 PM
How about a different Master Defender skill, like Saber Reflect. Here's the thoughts, and sorry if I've duplicated someone else's ideas. I didn't mean to.
Saber Reflect: Jedi enhancement (like Force Valor) that has a 50% chance to reflect any SABER BLOCKED shot back at the originator. This means that half of only blocked shots get returned. So, roughly, a MLS/MDef with Valor activated would block one out of four shots (on average) and reflect back to the energy weapon wielding person firing upon the Jedi one out of four shots, allowing two of the four shots through. This is not a stackable skill, but merely allows a Master Defender to do what Jedi have done throughout ALL the movies: Reflect the damage back. Thoughts?
Arcturius wrote:
How about a different Master Defender skill, like Saber Reflect. Here's the thoughts, and sorry if I've duplicated someone else's ideas. I didn't mean to.
Saber Reflect: Jedi enhancement (like Force Valor) that has a 50% chance to reflect any SABER BLOCKED shot back at the originator. This means that half of only blocked shots get returned. So, roughly, a MLS/MDef with Valor activated would block one out of four shots (on average) and reflect back to the energy weapon wielding person firing upon the Jedi one out of four shots, allowing two of the four shots through. This is not a stackable skill, but merely allows a Master Defender to do what Jedi have done throughout ALL the movies: Reflect the damage back. Thoughts?
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Ghert wrote:
With the upcoming changes toavoid incapacitation,I feel it's necessary to tweak defender in order to improve balancing and fulfill its role. When the AI tweak goes live,the ability will truly lose its tanking purposes.
For example: If I were to join a spin group with me as their tank. AI will become dead useful when dealing with 20 or so cl 82 pickets. However, when the tweak comes, you will break all aggro and your group will be the ones who suffer.
That is why I propose this:
- Remove avoid incapacitation from defender and implement it in Master Healer.
- Reason: AI will no longer be useful for tanking. However master healer would greatly benefit from this since their role is to heal and assist.
- Implement advance force dominate mind(s)
- Reason: Defender should be the ultimate tank, with that they should be enabled to aggro many NPC at once.
- Definition: This is an AOE version of dominate mind. (15 meter radius)
- Implement advance force aura
- Reason: As the best tank of the game, this should be greatly improved in order for defenders to peak "Improved center of being," a non-Jedi melee ability.
- Definition: This ability lasts for 120 seconds and gives the user +600 defensive bonus.
With these new abilities I'm confedint that Master Defender will be able to fulfill it's role as the ultimate tank.
/discuss
defender shouldnt even be touched right now... Theres other professions needing help moreso then this profession will ever need
aose wrote:
Ghert wrote:
With the upcoming changes toavoid incapacitation,I feel it's necessary to tweak defender in order to improve balancing and fulfill its role. When the AI tweak goes live,the ability will truly lose its tanking purposes.
For example: If I were to join a spin group with me as their tank. AI will become dead useful when dealing with 20 or so cl 82 pickets. However, when the tweak comes, you will break all aggro and your group will be the ones who suffer.
That is why I propose this:
- Remove avoid incapacitation from defender and implement it in Master Healer.
- Reason: AI will no longer be useful for tanking. However master healer would greatly benefit from this since their role is to heal and assist.
- Implement advance force dominate mind(s)
- Reason: Defender should be the ultimate tank, with that they should be enabled to aggro many NPC at once.
- Definition: This is an AOE version of dominate mind. (15 meter radius)
- Implement advance force aura
- Reason: As the best tank of the game, this should be greatly improved in order for defenders to peak "Improved center of being," a non-Jedi melee ability.
- Definition: This ability lasts for 120 seconds and gives the user +600 defensive bonus.
With these new abilities I'm confedint that Master Defender will be able to fulfill it's role as the ultimate tank.
/discuss
defender shouldnt even be touched right now... Theres other professions needing help moreso then this profession will ever need
More we deserve it more than you posts. /rolleyes
Why cant people say these are good ideas without having to have a pissing contest.
TheNarcis wrote:
aose wrote:
Ghert wrote:
With the upcoming changes toavoid incapacitation,I feel it's necessary to tweak defender in order to improve balancing and fulfill its role. When the AI tweak goes live,the ability will truly lose its tanking purposes.
For example: If I were to join a spin group with me as their tank. AI will become dead useful when dealing with 20 or so cl 82 pickets. However, when the tweak comes, you will break all aggro and your group will be the ones who suffer.
That is why I propose this:
- Remove avoid incapacitation from defender and implement it in Master Healer.
- Reason: AI will no longer be useful for tanking. However master healer would greatly benefit from this since their role is to heal and assist.
- Implement advance force dominate mind(s)
- Reason: Defender should be the ultimate tank, with that they should be enabled to aggro many NPC at once.
- Definition: This is an AOE version of dominate mind. (15 meter radius)
- Implement advance force aura
- Reason: As the best tank of the game, this should be greatly improved in order for defenders to peak "Improved center of being," a non-Jedi melee ability.
- Definition: This ability lasts for 120 seconds and gives the user +600 defensive bonus.
With these new abilities I'm confedint that Master Defender will be able to fulfill it's role as the ultimate tank.
/discuss
defender shouldnt even be touched right now... Theres other professions needing help moreso then this profession will ever need
More we deserve it more than you posts. /rolleyes
Why cant people say these are good ideas without having to have a pissing contest.
well lets see,, defenders b!tching cause they got a nerf going on.. whoopie dam doo... Yeah there good ideas to an extent... But this is nothing needing to be worried about... Try fixing the healer profession.. That would be something.. Fix a profession that has seen nothing but nerfs and never a fix and another nerf coming..lol.. and yet you guys complain cause you got something nerfed...lol..