Jedi Archive
Thread: Template question w/ Pub24
StarDryfter
Tue Oct 18, 2005 9:44 am
#14
My biggest concern is with the snare overriding FR, what is the value of it in applications of escape from combat?
I was a long time defender who went MEnh....I then tried all the variation of Def/Enh to try to get the defenses I enjoyed as MDef with some more flair also. I just could not find that balance to be comfortable. So, back to Mdef I went, and have been, for quite some time again.
To me, FR being nerfed into uselessness, makes Enhancer a little less necessary. I am MLS/Mdef/4040Heal and actually love it. Just recently left teh ranks of the 3000Heal and 0002enh. Mostthe time, I never get below around 70% force. But I do have a 10 FC saber too, and I know that helps.
WookieOgre
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:26 am
#15
Ecuto wrote:
I'm currently MLS, 4000 healing and 2002 enhancer, I'm thinking of going
MLS, 4040 Heal, 4004 Enh, 0040 Def.
What you guys think? Decent in PvP/PvE? I was wondering if sap would be even better than it was previous due to the higher action usage for healing.
Thanks for the input.
You'll die.
No real armor = dead from what I've seen on BETA.
GunFu
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:30 am
#16
Could you post a couple templates for us bud. I would appreciate it.
WookieOgre wrote:
Ecuto wrote:
I'm currently MLS, 4000 healing and 2002 enhancer, I'm thinking of going
MLS, 4040 Heal, 4004 Enh, 0040 Def.
What you guys think? Decent in PvP/PvE? I was wondering if sap would be even better than it was previous due to the higher action usage for healing.
Thanks for the input.
You'll die.
No real armor = dead from what I've seen on BETA.
Aalob Alarios
yurylightmist
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:35 am
#17
i have a question also, my current temp is MLS/4402 enhancer/3040 defender/4000 healer and i know that FA goes away with Armorbreak. but what about Innate armor when armor broken? cuz i was MLS/4440 defender/3002 enhancer/4000 healer but that was along time ago i dont remember how i did against other temps. How does that work against BH and Melee stackers?
Nexa1
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:36 am
#18
MLS / 4x4xHeal/ 3xx2Enh / 4x4xDef
Seems to be very balanced for my style.
lovisa
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:40 am
#19
Saereth wrote:
MLS/3402enhancer/0040 defneder/4040 healer, New fotm
dont say so i wanna be uniqe
lovisa
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:42 am
#20
Nexa1 wrote:
MLS / 4x4xHeal/ 3xx2Enh / 4x4xDef
Seems to be very balanced for my style.
i am actually think of try it becourse force armor drain to much for my taste but it still have nice protection
chewboywa
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:43 am
#21
Stuyf wrote:
GunFu wrote:
MLS/Healer 4000/def 4040/enh 3402 is awesome.
So is MLS/Healer 4000/Defender 4440/Enhancer 3002
same protection but less drain on your force
This template is getting more recognition and is actually quite well-rounded for almost everything and very conservative on force.
Nexa1
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:44 am
#22
Personally I have never been a huge fan of force armor just because of the drain factor.
WookieOgre
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:51 am
#23
GunFu wrote:
Could you post a couple templates for us bud. I would appreciate it.
lol, ok.
Saber x444 Master Defender Enhancer 3xx2 Healer 4xxx (one of the best IMO, specially if you have Saber mods)
MLS Defender 444x Enhancer 3xx2 Healer 4xxx
Also templates that have ForceArmor with Aura are also viable. Without both armor and Aura you will find you hate playing your Jedi unless you have some kind RP thing going on. If that's the case, I agree it's perfect for you because anyone without the necessary defenses IMO will be Role Playing a real Jedi from the movies......hunted and killed.
**I admit there are those who play a MLS/MP template and do fine.....I seriously can't explain how they do it with no defenses and I suspect after the snare change + SL revamp hit live those templates will take serious hits in viability (PvE and PvP)
KRAKEN666
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:55 am
#24
sap slows the mind and action regenation rates of your opponent. when you get attacked and you see the enemies green and blue bar drop to about half of the 100% mark, apply sap and the regen rates are slowed. that way, they use up more action and mind using specials that can be regenerated. It used to be 2 minutes long but now got nerfed to half that even though bh/mcm can put states on for 2 minutes...Once you get to low on action, you get a "you are too tired to do that" and get low on mind you get another message but the results are that they cant use specials on u.
sprognak
Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:56 am
#25
Sorry, but Def 4440 is not the same protection as Def 4040 Enhancer 3402...
Enhancer 3402 Def 4040 = 32 Innate armour + 40 Innate frim Force armour = 7200 armour protection.
Enhancer 3002 Def 4440 = 44 Innate armour = 4400 protection.
One is a high end suit of armour, the other is a piddly suit of grind armour. Unfortunately with ranged def being broken, the only advantage of Def 4440 is if you are going full MDef and getting the Master bonuses.
Many people try x2xx Enhancer and go OMG! Force usage!!! That's because FA1 takes 30% of the mitigated damage from your force pool.
FA2 only takes 8%
Sorotia
Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:01 am
#26
sprognak wrote:
Sorry, but Def 4440 is not the same protection as Def 4040 Enhancer 3402...
Enhancer 3402 Def 4040 =42 Innate armour + 40 Innate frim Force armour =8200 armour protection.
Enhancer 3002 Def 4440 =54 Innate armour =5400 protection.
One is a high end suit of armour, the other is a piddly suit of grind armour. Unfortunately with ranged def being broken, the only advantage of Def 4440 is if you are going full MDef and getting the Master bonuses.
Many people try x2xx Enhancer and go OMG! Force usage!!! That's because FA1 takes 30% of the mitigated damage from your force pool.
FA2 only takes 8%
fixed ya numebers for ya but force dont matter to me much when i gota good saber and i cant beat these fully doc/food buffed exploiting bh.
Message Edited by Sorotia on 10-18-2005 11:03 AM