Jedi Archive
Thread: You are NOT entitled to be Ubber
felipz
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:02 pm
#14
SWG Vault: When will Crystal/Pearl drops be fixed to again include qualities over "good"?
Julio Torres: We are working on a fix for the hig- end items like these. Expect changes on this on or right after our next expansion.
Yes we all know they have lied before to us but anyway ...
Gillik
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:04 pm
#15
Sandsifter wrote:
Most of us want just some better tunes. Also get the drops fixed. Thats what most of us want.
You obviously need to re-read the above lesson for you. Its not your right to own everything, be everything, and be my equal. You have much to learn young padawan and you will learn your place.
Like my father always said, the world needs ditch diggers too.
Its not your right to be the only one to have a chance to have a perfect saber just because you got it before someone else.
LuciferMullins
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:07 pm
#16
Sandsifter wrote:
Im so sick of the whining about the lack of flawless / premium pearl drops. Where does it say in this game that everyone is entitled to them ? Where does it say everyone should be equal ?
I'm sick of those trying to protect their "uberness".
The main problem isnt lack of drops, its the younger generations belief system. I am thoroughly versed in how they think having done extensive market research and focus groups on this generation since they started spending money. They believe that they are entitled to everything. Its their right to win at everything and have everything. The problem is they dont understand that only effort equals reward. Somewhere down the line when mommy and daddy gave them one too many gifts for getting C's on their report card they assumed this misconception.
Not that I got C's, but see above.
So let me fix this misconception for you...
And I shalleliminate yourillusionsyours...
You are not entitled to rule every game. In fact in mmorpgs only a small few, maybe 1% ever get that elite sword or super rare armor piece. Jedi are no different. There will and should be some that simply will always beat you.
Ahh but everyone should have the same chance at the "elite sword" or "armor piece"...
Effort equals reward. Just like in real life folks, effort means small or big rewards. In the case of SWG, if one started playing since launch and worked hard grinding and hunting those nasty krayts they obviously deserve to rock. Lets not forget how difficult krayts were back then, sometimes taking 45 minutes to take one down with no guarantee of a pearl drop (or a good tune for that matter). These jedi have been playing the game longer, and therefore SHOULD be better. They put the time and energy in. They worked harder than post-cu jedi plain and simple. And like life, they are better because of it.
Ahhh, but now you are cutting out people who couldn't farm them early, or use terrain bugs, AI bugs, were crafters, fill in the blank... I know you guys had to walk uphill both ways, and had 1 damage sabers, and fell over dead everytime a bh got within999m of you, but you can't deny a chance to earn equality. That's what SOE is doing right now by not allowing Prem/Flawless to drop at all...
Not every part of a mmorpg must be perfectly balanced between professions. Sure the devs try and make things within reason but gear will always set some apart. Jedi are the same, some will get better skill tapes and pearls.
This isn't a problem as long as you can try to earn that equality, but trying to cut someone off... sorry never works.
If you really want to play a generic watered down mmorpg where everyone is the same and nice and balanced equally then may I suggest trying World of Warcraft. Over there a level 60 warlock is equal to every other level 60 warlock. This is the beauty of SWG, effort matters and can set you apart from the rest....Just like life.
Even if premium and flawless drops were still reinstated, it would take months, if not longer, for a minor percentage to get a few decent tunes off several. This will allow you to keep your security blanket for some time before you lose your "uberness"...
As it stands now if FRS was reinstated, pre-cu, including me, would walk over post-cu without issue. Now if you think that you have a right to do this, itshows your concerned for nothing but your own selfish aims.
P__Day
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:14 pm
#18
is it ok for someone who clearly has no understanding of the german language to use the word "uber" and even manage to spell it wrong?
felipz
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:16 pm
#20
While you are at it post on carbineer forums and tell them not every single one of them should use a carbine like this. Made with enhanced power cells. (bh loot)
dudeskis
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:16 pm
#21
just because you farmed krayts pre cu doesnt entitle you to be uber and everyone else to be destined to suck.
pre cu, spend about 50 to 75 million on premiums to get a good saber. or just farm them yourself.
post cu, "good" pearls are going for 1m+. with premiums approaching, and passing on some servers, 20m. try and spend under 100m to make a good saber now.
ppl dont feel like they should be handed out perfect sabers. but theyd atleast like a somewhat reasonable shot at getting one.
pre cu, spend about 50 to 75 million on premiums to get a good saber. or just farm them yourself.
post cu, "good" pearls are going for 1m+. with premiums approaching, and passing on some servers, 20m. try and spend under 100m to make a good saber now.
ppl dont feel like they should be handed out perfect sabers. but theyd atleast like a somewhat reasonable shot at getting one.
PrettyPistol
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:17 pm
#22
Sandsifter wrote:
Okay but the AKF grinders and the loot hogs are okay to be uber? The cheaters are okay to be uber?
Jedi back then were not afk grinding. We were spending many hundreds of lonely nights (myself probably 8 months total on endor alone looking over my shoulder) killing mob after mob. There was no ryatt trail where seekers didnt work. And spending 600 hours looking for krayts and Nightsister elders was simply effort. And we were rewarded for that effort.
/agree
Post-CU Jedi are supposed to be 2nd class Jedi 
FuNkO
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:22 pm
#23
LuciferMullins wrote:
Sandsifter wrote:
Im so sick of the whining about the lack of flawless / premium pearl drops. Where does it say in this game that everyone is entitled to them ? Where does it say everyone should be equal ?
I'm sick of those trying to protect their "uberness".
The main problem isnt lack of drops, its the younger generations belief system. I am thoroughly versed in how they think having done extensive market research and focus groups on this generation since they started spending money. They believe that they are entitled to everything. Its their right to win at everything and have everything. The problem is they dont understand that only effort equals reward. Somewhere down the line when mommy and daddy gave them one too many gifts for getting C's on their report card they assumed this misconception.
Not that I got C's, but see above.
So let me fix this misconception for you...
And I shalleliminate yourillusionsyours...
You are not entitled to rule every game. In fact in mmorpgs only a small few, maybe 1% ever get that elite sword or super rare armor piece. Jedi are no different. There will and should be some that simply will always beat you.
Ahh but everyone should have the same chance at the "elite sword" or "armor piece"...
Effort equals reward. Just like in real life folks, effort means small or big rewards. In the case of SWG, if one started playing since launch and worked hard grinding and hunting those nasty krayts they obviously deserve to rock. Lets not forget how difficult krayts were back then, sometimes taking 45 minutes to take one down with no guarantee of a pearl drop (or a good tune for that matter). These jedi have been playing the game longer, and therefore SHOULD be better. They put the time and energy in. They worked harder than post-cu jedi plain and simple. And like life, they are better because of it.
Ahhh, but now you are cutting out people who couldn't farm them early, or use terrain bugs, AI bugs, were crafters, fill in the blank... I know you guys had to walk uphill both ways, and had 1 damage sabers, and fell over dead everytime a bh got within999m of you, but you can't deny a chance to earn equality. That's what SOE is doing right now by not allowing Prem/Flawless to drop at all...
Not every part of a mmorpg must be perfectly balanced between professions. Sure the devs try and make things within reason but gear will always set some apart. Jedi are the same, some will get better skill tapes and pearls.
This isn't a problem as long as you can try to earn that equality, but trying to cut someone off... sorry never works.
If you really want to play a generic watered down mmorpg where everyone is the same and nice and balanced equally then may I suggest trying World of Warcraft. Over there a level 60 warlock is equal to every other level 60 warlock. This is the beauty of SWG, effort matters and can set you apart from the rest....Just like life.
Even if premium and flawless drops were still reinstated, it would take months, if not longer, for a minor percentage to get a few decent tunes off several. This will allow you to keep your security blanket for some time before you lose your "uberness"...
As it stands now if FRS was reinstated, pre-cu, including me, would walk over post-cu without issue. Now if you think that you have a right to do this, itshows your concerned for nothing but your own selfish aims.
nice answers m8,
i don't know why this guy has made a post like this? anything i do about anything, i only ever go into it if i have the promise of a chance.
and that is what we will have im sureonce the 'devs' find away to reintroduce prems/flawless loots.
I find it great to be a jedi i don't ask to be uber in pvp lol, i just ask to have a realistic chance.... ive recently got my saber upto 453 modded dps from 405 which was nice, so i guess ill carry on looting 'good' pearls for now
JediScout
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:26 pm
#24
Sandsifter wrote:
Im so sick of the whining about the lack of flawless / premium pearl drops. Where does it say in this game that everyone is entitled to them ? Where does it say everyone should be equal ?
The main problem isnt lack of drops, its the younger generations belief system.
Let me guess, you have yours......
Nastypope
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:30 pm
#25
PrettyPistol wrote:
Sandsifter wrote:
Okay but the AKF grinders and the loot hogs are okay to be uber? The cheaters are okay to be uber?
Jedi back then were not afk grinding. We were spending many hundreds of lonely nights (myself probably 8 months total on endor alone looking over my shoulder) killing mob after mob. There was no ryatt trail where seekers didnt work. And spending 600 hours looking for krayts and Nightsister elders was simply effort. And we were rewarded for that effort.
/agree
Post-CU Jedi are supposed to be 2nd class Jedi
Ah but many of PRE CU JEDI (and I am a pre CU Jedi.) did use alts to AFK camp loot spawns, to help there Jedi chars and to get pearls that dont drop anymore. So I am tlaking more about the loot, I agree on XP aspect as I have never AFK for xp pre or post cu.
Anakroid
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:32 pm
#26
The OP is an idiot.
In the CU era, it's all about balance. To be balanced, everyone must have the same opportunity to have a saber as good as the best. Before you ramble on about good pearls having the possibility to tune perfectly - spare me, premiums tune MUCH better in general. I killedALOT of krayts, andlooted premium pearls Pre-CU, krayts were damn easy then too. pre-CU you didnt have to worry about healing or dying when a krayt hit you - now you do.
Message Edited by Anakroid on 09-03-2005 10:32 PM