Jedi Archive

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Demonssword wrote:

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Eskie wrote:

Force Run and Force Cloak are not escape-only skills. They can be used for hit-and-run tactics, and no Jedi wants a "lockdown" when a BH attacks, so why in Jedi vs Jedi?
Its about using surrounding to ones advantage, also. If I want to fight close to a river, I want to be able to run close to a river. If I want to fight in hilly terrain I want to be able to run into hilly terrain. Either the one wanting to kill me follows me, or he manages to stop me from running, or he leaves me alone.

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Yeah in a way i can see your point that run and cloak arnt just escape skills. BUT the general use of cloak is just to disappear and recharge or hide, and surely as a mind trick anyway force cloak wouldnt work on other jedi for a couple of reasons. A) Mind tricks only work on the weak minded (so it really shouldnt be as effective as it is, cos i doubt all chars in game are "weak minded"). B) Jedi can sense your force presence aswell as see you. And as to force run, yeah it can mean you can quickly retreat and heal and then come back, but most people use it to run away, or chase down a fleeing BH / Jedi.

I can also see your point about using terrain as a jedi the other day was on flat land but choose to flee from me and biked off into the hills. At the time I was also on my bike and just as he got near the peek of the hill I stored my bike and pressed F5 for my KD shot and he fell off his bike (that then instantly blew up) and I then had the advantage over this jedi as most jedi seem to lack terrain neg while BH have it.

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Whats wrong with a Jedi who has Advanced Force Run or Force Cloak to retreat and recharge? They gave up defenses, so they need a break more often.
The idea with the arena is to make every Jedi fight on the terms of the tank templates - negating Force Run and Force Cloak gives MLS / MDef Jedi an unfair advantage unless you also disable the Defender 44xx lines and cap LS speed at a tier 4 level in that arena.
Whats so wrong with a template built for running actually running away, anyway? If a MDef / MLS lacks the crowd control to stop an Enh 4xxx / Powers x4xx Jedi from leaving a fight its the same as a MBH / MCM / Rifles 4000 BH lacking the crowd control to stop an Enh 4xxx / Powers x4xx Jedi from running.