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Thread: Wheres my 'Lightsaber Defense' ?
Sidalo wrote:
People have brought up the fact that other Professions have weapon specific defenses but we dont.
The weapon specific defenses add to both Melee and Ranged Defense.
I frnkly think they should add LS Defense +50 to MLS.
to counteract it they should remove about 25 from Master Defender. Not just from Master box but a little all over.
I would not want everyone going MLS / MDef even more so now.
But this would give Jedi some Defense without having to take Defender but would give a Master Defender more than anyone could get still.
Message Edited by TatterSalad on 07-06-2005 02:47 PM
OohBo wrote:
Lightsaber Defense
This mod improves your defensive skills while you have a Lightsaber equipped.
So aLightsaber Mastertrained in the elegant art ofLightsaber combathas lessintrinsic defensive abilitythan someone holding onto a clunky T-21 rifle - and somehow someone holding onto an 18 inch billy club can defend himself better than someone whowields a 3 foot beam of incredibly focused light which passes through solid matter without interruption.
I'm not asking for the world, just something to show that when I wield my weapon (happens to be a lightsaber) I get a defensive bonus like every other combat profession. Now don't even start with the assanine response "if you want defense, get defender" crap. If you're gonna say that, save your breath. Defender has defense, great. Makes sense. But what doesn't make sense is that is the only place a Jedi can get defense. Defender should be a source of defenses to STACK with any other defenses you have, not the ONLY source of them.
So if you read between the lines, I'm not asking for a nerf of defender - defender is great - I'm asking for a needed lift to the lightsaber skill tree.
I can't wait to seethe creative objections ppl will come up with - because frankly, you'll have to make it a pretty long stretch to argue with giving 'lightsaber defense' to it's skill tree.
I totally agree...I think both the LS & Powers Trees shouldget baseline defenses to make you viable...defender skills should raise you to "tank" status.
EvilAztec wrote:
Bah I say nuke the whole defender tree and spread out the defenses between LS, Enhancer, and Powers.
LS = Ranged and Melee defenses and some innate jedi armor
Powers = Force power defenses and some innate jedi armor
Enhancer = Armor, Aura et. al (the boosts) and some innate jedi armor
Healer = jedi state defenses, and some innate jedi armor
The defender tree shouldn't even exist, either that or make melee and ranged get a seperate defense tree too.
I added the stuff in blue to finish it off. Great idea, one which has been put forth by MANY people over the last year (myself included). I could only wish for this to come true.
this is SWG if you want to be a jedi go play jedi academy this isnt starwars anymore this is "see how many people can get jedi before SOE nerfs us all even worse"
Thank you
samwise15 wrote:
this is SWG if you want to be a jedi go play jedi academy this isnt starwars anymore this is "see how many people can get jedi before SOE nerfs us all even worse"
Thank you
... LMAO ...
i heard that CA's like 1 handed accuracy... and 2 handed accuracy work for 1 handed lightsaber and 2 handed lightsaber....
however this is a rumor, i don't think its been proven...
with that said, IF those do indeed work, I wonder if 1 handed melee defense and 2 handed melee defense CA tapes work? that would give you some defense to lightsaber... altho its not in the LS tree, you can still get some defense without going defender.... however i was going out on a limb there on something based on rumor...
OohBo wrote:
EvilAztec wrote:
Bah I say nuke the whole defender tree and spread out the defenses between LS, Enhancer, and Powers.
LS = Ranged and Melee defenses and some innate jedi armor
Powers = Force power defenses and some innate jedi armor
Enhancer = Armor, Aura et. al (the boosts) and some innate jedi armor
Healer = jedi state defenses, and some innate jedi armor
The defender tree shouldn't even exist, either that or make melee and ranged get a seperate defense tree too.
I added the stuff in blue to finish it off. Great idea, one which has been put forth by MANY people over the last year (myself included). I could only wish for this to come true.
I just laugh when I see posts like this, and the above solution to spreading defenses around is probably the most idiotic I've seen on this board in quite some time. Realistically there shouldn't be an Enhancer tree either, or for that matter Healer. Thinking in your terms, there should only be three trees really:
- Basic Jedi Abilities
- Enhanced Lightsaber Abilities (everything you see now in Lightsaber and Defender)
- Enhanced Force Power Abilities (everything you see now in Enhancer, Healer, and Powers)
I mean, if you're going to start taking trees away, you may as well do it properly so everyone can have almost every Jedi skill. That would finally kill the whiners and clean up this board, bring it back how it used to be over a year ago. Ah, those were the days...
Every other profession in the game that has any type of combat ability has defenses even though TKA is the 'tank' profession. I dont see why SOE has segregated every single jedi tree into sects with no intermingling.
JediMasterCarlito wrote:
I just laugh when I see posts like this, and the above solution to spreading defenses around is probably the most idiotic I've seen on this board in quite some time.
/golfclap
there are a few problems with all the requests like this:
a. jedi is the profession. there are 4 sube sets of skills that for good or ill the Developers decided that we would have to pick and choose from them and not get them all.
pre-pub 9 all jedi at finished template had the exact same skills and abilities. Pre-Cu the flaver of the month had a must of mls for the defenses and offenses if you wanted to get anywhere in the frs. Post CU, like it or not the devs stripped a majority of the defenses from mls and put them into defender.
b.I keep seeing that people asking for more this or more thatfor thier choosen sub-set of skills and actually expect to get them and not loose anything in return. OP here wants defenses for his skills set of MLS, but in a balanced game this would mean that you would have to either add more to the other sub-sets, or give up somethign to maintain the balance.
c. We just had a major over haul of our and every other combat profession! while I can see minor tweaks and tunes still coming, i think you are all out of yoru mind to even dream that the developers are going to do something as unbalancing and grantign mls or powers or farmers more defenses to what they have already stated was an offense skill set.
AmI am happy about the fact that most jedi are probably going to be mdef or 4/x/4/x defenders? not really, no more then i was happy to see 8/10th of all the jedi on my server beign mls/mehancer/healing 4/0/0/4.