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Thread: NERF ALERT!!!!

Tarja-
Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:59 am
#14

for those of you wondering how:


they plan to make it so that force powers can only be used while wilding a lightsaber. training saber, or 4th gen doesnt matter but you need the glowy thing.






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MysticOne622
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:20 am
#15




Tarja- wrote:

for those of you wondering how:


they plan to make it so that force powers can only be used while wilding a lightsaber. training saber, or 4th gen doesnt matter but you need the glowy thing.







and what about master power who dont want or use a saber, they will be messing with them unless they let unarmed use them also



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VaSidius
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:21 am
#16




CruciumGiger wrote:



"rumours say that hybrid templates will be gone after pub24"


Where did you here that hybrid professions were out in publish 24, and if so i'd like to know how they will handle it having one myself. Surely they can't just remove the prof from you then expect you to go full template. I hate to say it but if this did happen you know people will bring up the 'respec' word.


Message Edited by CruciumGiger on 09-13-2005 12:49 PM



I also read this on a pub thread about 24, and they are taking the hybrid out of the game pretty much, what they are doing is if u have a hybrid temp, then u HAVE to have lightsaber equipped in order to use or perform any type of force moves, or powers, etc, whether its force powers, force enhancer, force defender, etc. No more rifles while jedi, no more anything mixed with jedi, now if this goes into play pub 24 is up in the air, i dont see the post on forums anymore where i read this, i will keep an eye out for it and f i see it again i will post on thie thread about it so u all can see for urselves.
Tarja-
Tue Sep 13, 2005 7:23 am
#17




MysticOne622 wrote:




Tarja- wrote:

for those of you wondering how:


they plan to make it so that force powers can only be used while wilding a lightsaber. training saber, or 4th gen doesnt matter but you need the glowy thing.







and what about master power who dont want or use a saber, they will be messing with them unless they let unarmed use them also




im sure it wouldnt hurt you to pick up some crap resources and throw a training saber together.



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MysticOne622
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:00 am
#18




Tarja- wrote:




MysticOne622 wrote:




Tarja- wrote:

for those of you wondering how:


they plan to make it so that force powers can only be used while wilding a lightsaber. training saber, or 4th gen doesnt matter but you need the glowy thing.







and what about master power who dont want or use a saber, they will be messing with them unless they let unarmed use them also




im sure it wouldnt hurt you to pick up some crap resources and throw a training saber together.





the point of them not doing that is because they dont want a saber they dont want anything in there hand thats why they are master power and not saber, even palp gave up his saber you want to go force him to use one again



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Drazharr
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:10 am
#19




MysticOne622 wrote:




Tarja- wrote:




MysticOne622 wrote:




Tarja- wrote:

for those of you wondering how:


they plan to make it so that force powers can only be used while wilding a lightsaber. training saber, or 4th gen doesnt matter but you need the glowy thing.







and what about master power who dont want or use a saber, they will be messing with them unless they let unarmed use them also




im sure it wouldnt hurt you to pick up some crap resources and throw a training saber together.





the point of them not doing that is because they dont want a saber they dont want anything in there hand thats why they are master power and not saber, even palp gave up his saber you want to go force him to use one again





This would truly be an unfortunate change and yet another divergence among countless others from the movies.


Obi-Wan used a pistol to kill Grevious in EP3. Palpatine didn't use a saber after EP3.


Now we all in SWG will be forced to. It isn't right. It's another nerf.


You could still use a gun, of course, but you'd have to take the time to equip it and unequip it - that extra time will kill you. That makes it impractical and that hurts Powers users a bunch. Powers will have to be really beefed up to compensate - but they won't do that.


If they truly make it so that you can't use Force Lightning or other force powers without a saber equipped, that's really nuts and not true to the movies or common sense. Just imagine being cloaked under this new system - you'd have to de-cloak, equip your saber and then strike, losing the element of surprise and precious seconds of attacking.


It just doesn't make sense to do this, but that has never stopped the devs before and it won't stop them now.



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AnotherMortal
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:15 am
#20

Tarja- wrote:

MysticOne622 wrote:

Tarja- wrote:

for those of you wondering how:

they plan to make it so that force powers can only be used while wilding a lightsaber. training saber, or 4th gen doesnt matter but you need the glowy thing.



and what about master power who dont want or use a saber, they will be messing with them unless they let unarmed use them also


im sure it wouldnt hurt you to pick up some crap resources and throw a training saber together.




I'm sure it wouldn't hurt to make a training saber, but SWG is supposedly an MMORPG. What does this do for the roleplaying dark jedi who have no saber skills in their template, and don't want to equip a saber to be able to shoot lightning from their hands? 



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Jofa
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:17 am
#21







Tarja- wrote:

for those of you wondering how:


they plan to make it so that force powers can only be used while wilding a lightsaber. training saber, or 4th gen doesnt matter but you need the glowy thing.





and what about master power who dont want or use a saber, they will be messing with them unless they let unarmed use them also




the point of them not doing that is because they dont want a saber they dont want anything in there hand thats why they are master power and not saber, even palp gave up his saber you want to go force him to use one again



Simple solution: Lightsaber FOR Powers Jedi that equips but doesn't ignite or show it equipped in your hand..So the system knows you have a saber equiped but you look and feel like you dont.


Message Edited by Jofa on 09-13-200508:18 AM

Message Edited by Jofa on 09-13-2005 08:18 AM




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Wasz
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:21 am
#22
Hmm...dabbler templates such as those described are a fallacy to some degree. Yeah MR and MDEF may work but over time it will get changed in later publishes. As for respec I bet those who chose such templates respec'd to them. Hence, they are not entitled to a respec. BTW I have 3 toons that still have a respec option. Why? Because I can. I chose to hold off on using them and have taken the time to grind out what I need. Is you is, or is you ain't jedi? My advice, get full template jedi, make unlock a tank/looter.




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Drazharr
Tue Sep 13, 2005 8:58 am
#23




Jofa wrote:








Tarja- wrote:

for those of you wondering how:


they plan to make it so that force powers can only be used while wilding a lightsaber. training saber, or 4th gen doesnt matter but you need the glowy thing.





and what about master power who dont want or use a saber, they will be messing with them unless they let unarmed use them also




the point of them not doing that is because they dont want a saber they dont want anything in there hand thats why they are master power and not saber, even palp gave up his saber you want to go force him to use one again



Simple solution: Lightsaber FOR Powers Jedi that equips but doesn't ignite or show it equipped in your hand..So the system knows you have a saber equiped but you look and feel like you dont.


Message Edited by Jofa on 09-13-200508:18 AM


Message Edited by Jofa on 09-13-2005 08:18 AM



I bet they can't code that. If they could, of course, I'd be in favor of it.



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huttu
Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:07 am
#24

defender rifleman is not good at all


and why do you say NERF ALERT????





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cybermechx
Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:23 am
#25


MX 13 Wrote:


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Well, nothing new here. This has been known for a while, but I understand why you posted it. I does suck when you find out about it.


But there's a template I'd worry about more if I were you: MBH / MDef / H4xxx


Insane defenses + Duelest Stance, accuracy & speedalmost equal to a MR, more weapon selection, bomb droids, a KD and much better TN. I did this temp WAY back and I could kill ANY Jedi. I don't think anyone realizes how strong MBH alone is now.


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I completely agree here. I am considering this template for my alt. You could walk around BUTT NAKEY and whoop up on just about anything.


Just onDefensesalone:


350 Melee Def-355 Range Def


Add in Skills


Duelist Stance 125-125


Aura 500-500


Add in Clothes & Foods- Drinks


Max mods are +125 Range & Melee



Result: 1100 Melee Def- 1105 Range Def



And BTW skill points limit you to 1xxx Force healer... Still, healing on your back, even a little will save your BUTT...


And im capt. obvious but adding IJA, state defenses, AI, etc, etc, etc....


If they nerf Hybrids I guess I will stop grinding my alt for this template and just enjoy MBH/MCM/Rifle 4xxx




Message Edited by cybermechx on 09-13-2005 09:27 AM

Va-Mei
Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:34 am
#26
Yeah, Defender/Rifleman rocks. I'mre-grinding my4440Def, 3000Enh, 3000Heal & MRfiles now. Ranged players don't hurt much at all and those nasty BH/CMs just get forced into a healing cycle. If you wanna play as hardened support for a good melee player, this is it.


It's not all powerful though. If I'm running solo, Sword/Doc ishell on this template, and so arecloaking saberists. Most MDefenders just ignore me until I get bored and go away.
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