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Thread: Best Template EVER!!!

Ryle80
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:38 am
#14



-zoe- wrote:


Ockaroo wrote:


Kal_Choedan wrote:
dump fr2 it costs to much to activate and reactivate . mls 4440 4000 3002 is the way to go with this template. Remember the best template is the one you know how to use not the template itself.

Having fr2 to grind the template is not an excuse to keep it IMHO but your choise of course. fr1 is not just for running its for the terrain negatiation without it I wouldnt win half the BH fights I do now . FR1 is probably the second most important skill after chanell. That should get it nerfed now hahaha.


you dont need the terrain negotiation mod from fr1 when you're wearing a jacket with Terrain Negotiation mods on it.



umm knight robe?





I have +13 tn on my belt and +10 on my gloves in ca's hehe.




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-zoe-
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:39 am
#15






Ryle80 wrote:





-zoe- wrote:





Ockaroo wrote:





Kal_Choedan wrote:
dump fr2 it costs to much to activate and reactivate . mls 4440 4000 3002 is the way to go with this template. Remember the best template is the one you know how to use not the template itself.

Having fr2 to grind the template is not an excuse to keep it IMHO but your choise of course. fr1 is not just for running its for the terrain negatiation without it I wouldnt win half the BH fights I do now . FR1 is probably the second most important skill after chanell. That should get it nerfed now hahaha.




you dont need the terrain negotiation mod from fr1 when you're wearing a jacket with Terrain Negotiation mods on it.





umm knight robe?







I have +13 tn on my belt and +10 on my gloves in ca's hehe.




Great to see ya thinking ahead hehe alotof people arent.



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Ockaroo
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:41 am
#16






Ryle80 wrote:








you dont need the terrain negotiation mod from fr1 when you're wearing a jacket with Terrain Negotiation mods on it.





umm knight robe?







I have +13 tn on my belt and +10 on my gloves in ca's hehe.





exactly! if they make robes worth wearing....I just get that mod in either gloves, belt or a hat!



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Ryle80
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:41 am
#17



Ockaroo wrote:


Ryle80 wrote:



Fr1 is ever so slighlty slower than burst run.

even so......you use fr1 to get out of range. They run after you. You are STILL moving faster than they are. Say you try to run from the fight. To catch up to you they use parwan. It runs out....you're still out of there. They try to call a bike to chase you. BOOM goes the bike....you're gone. They use burst run. THAT wears off....you're gone. What speed you're moving at doesn't even matter. It doesn't wear off! Even during a fight, you can always get out of range at will and they cannot. Uh, I should stop now before they nerf fr1. lol






They can use parawan to burst run pretty much endlessly. But i never run from a bh so /shrug




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Ockaroo
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:43 am
#18






Ryle80 wrote:





Ockaroo wrote:





Ryle80 wrote:







Fr1 is ever so slighlty slower than burst run.





even so......you use fr1 to get out of range. They run after you. You are STILL moving faster than they are. Say you try to run from the fight. To catch up to you they use parwan. It runs out....you're still out of there. They try to call a bike to chase you. BOOM goes the bike....you're gone. They use burst run. THAT wears off....you're gone. What speed you're moving at doesn't even matter. It doesn't wear off! Even during a fight, you can always get out of range at will and they cannot. Uh, I should stop now before they nerf fr1. lol









They can use parawan to burst run pretty much endlessly. But i never run from a bh so /shrug





they can't if their stomach is full with other foods they ate to survive fighting a Jedi. If they come after a Jedi without a full stomach, you don't need ANY fr at all. They'll be dead in seconds.



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Kal_Choedan
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:45 am
#19



Ockaroo wrote:


Kal_Choedan wrote:
dump fr2 it costs to much to activate and reactivate . mls 4440 4000 3002 is the way to go with this template. Remember the best template is the one you know how to use not the template itself.

Having fr2 to grind the template is not an excuse to keep it IMHO but your choise of course. fr1 is not just for running its for the terrain negatiation without it I wouldnt win half the BH fights I do now . FR1 is probably the second most important skill after chanell. That should get it nerfed now hahaha.


you dont need the terrain negotiation mod from fr1 when you're wearing a jacket with Terrain Negotiation mods on it.





You might not but I need the damage while the BH is running for range up a hill . You try hitting the BH with FR2 for 1 point of damage while they are hitting you with their t21 ect. Youll be healing and doing no damage your only hope is to run and concede the fight. Id much rather stay with the BH and do 800 damage to them every 2 seconds TBH. That said its your template you must know how it works I guess . I just disagree that it isnt the best template ever because it has the FR2 weakness of loseing 300+ force everytime you need to do damage.



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Ockaroo
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:51 am
#20






Kal_Choedan wrote:





Ockaroo wrote:





Kal_Choedan wrote:
dump fr2 it costs to much to activate and reactivate . mls 4440 4000 3002 is the way to go with this template. Remember the best template is the one you know how to use not the template itself.

Having fr2 to grind the template is not an excuse to keep it IMHO but your choise of course. fr1 is not just for running its for the terrain negatiation without it I wouldnt win half the BH fights I do now . FR1 is probably the second most important skill after chanell. That should get it nerfed now hahaha.




you dont need the terrain negotiation mod from fr1 when you're wearing a jacket with Terrain Negotiation mods on it.







You might not but I need the damage while the BH is running for range up a hill . You try hitting the BH with FR2 for 1 point of damage while they are hitting you with their t21 ect. Youll be healing and doing no damage your only hope is to run and concede the fight. Id much rather stay with the BH and do 800 damage to them every 2 seconds TBH. That said its your template you must know how it works I guess . I just disagree that it isnt the best template ever because it has the FR2 weakness of loseing 300+ force everytime you need to do damage.





You are thinking that I am trying to fight with FR2 on. Turning on FR2 drains force and action. Turning it off doesn't. If I get attack while it's on, I turn it off and keep it off. He tries to kite, I use Improved SaberThrow. That has a KD on it. He gets out of range to avoid me, I sit down and regen action and Force. Neither one will win in this scenario. If he stays in range of me, he's dead. If I choose to end the fight, I click on FR2 and am out of there.



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Ryle80
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:54 am
#21

Basically there is no best template no matter what anyone posts. Its all down to personal play style. For me i have fr1 to pvp, not as a method of escape. Fr2 gives you option to run if you feel its needed, but as an offensive technique its limited.




Ryle Ackak - Dark Jedi Elder
The Empire - 'Bringing peace and racial equality, through war and mass xenocide'



-zoe-
Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:55 am
#22







You might not but I need the damage while the BH is running for range up a hill . You try hitting the BH with FR2 for 1 point of damage while they are hitting you with their t21 ect. Youll be healing and doing no damage your only hope is to run and concede the fight. Id much rather stay with the BH and do 800 damage to them every 2 seconds TBH. That said its your template you must know how it works I guess . I just disagree that it isnt the best template ever because it has the FR2 weakness of loseing 300+ force everytime you need to do damage.




Gofor 3402 enh 4040 def for the + 32 innate more armour in defense but thats just IMHO, it drains more force but i prefer that over healing the damage instead, it gives me more time for offense rather than healing.



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Kal_Choedan
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:00 am
#23



Ockaroo wrote:


Kal_Choedan wrote:


Ockaroo wrote:


Kal_Choedan wrote:
dump fr2 it costs to much to activate and reactivate . mls 4440 4000 3002 is the way to go with this template. Remember the best template is the one you know how to use not the template itself.

Having fr2 to grind the template is not an excuse to keep it IMHO but your choise of course. fr1 is not just for running its for the terrain negatiation without it I wouldnt win half the BH fights I do now . FR1 is probably the second most important skill after chanell. That should get it nerfed now hahaha.


you dont need the terrain negotiation mod from fr1 when you're wearing a jacket with Terrain Negotiation mods on it.





You might not but I need the damage while the BH is running for range up a hill . You try hitting the BH with FR2 for 1 point of damage while they are hitting you with their t21 ect. Youll be healing and doing no damage your only hope is to run and concede the fight. Id much rather stay with the BH and do 800 damage to them every 2 seconds TBH. That said its your template you must know how it works I guess . I just disagree that it isnt the best template ever because it has the FR2 weakness of loseing 300+ force everytime you need to do damage.


You are thinking that I am trying to fight with FR2 on. Turning on FR2 drains force and action. Turning it off doesn't. If I get attack while it's on, I turn it off and keep it off. He tries to kite, I use Improved SaberThrow. That has a KD on it. He gets out of range to avoid me, I sit down and regen action and Force. Neither one will win in this scenario. If he stays in range of me, he's dead. If I choose to end the fight, I click on FR2 and am out of there.





Ok ill bring my MBH riffles CM template and you sit 60m away and regen while I spam you with riffle specials. Just a thought. No self respecting BH will stay within 35 m of advanced saber throw and thats the whole point here I think . You cannot close the gap without wasteing force every time.



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BHM
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:06 am
#24






Ockaroo wrote:





Ryle80 wrote:





Ockaroo wrote:





Ryle80 wrote:







Fr1 is ever so slighlty slower than burst run.





even so......you use fr1 to get out of range. They run after you. You are STILL moving faster than they are. Say you try to run from the fight. To catch up to you they use parwan. It runs out....you're still out of there. They try to call a bike to chase you. BOOM goes the bike....you're gone. They use burst run. THAT wears off....you're gone. What speed you're moving at doesn't even matter. It doesn't wear off! Even during a fight, you can always get out of range at will and they cannot. Uh, I should stop now before they nerf fr1. lol









They can use parawan to burst run pretty much endlessly. But i never run from a bh so /shrug





they can't if their stomach is full with other foods they ate to survive fighting a Jedi. If they come after a Jedi without a full stomach, you don't need ANY fr at all. They'll be dead in seconds.






I have to disagree here, any BH who engages a jedi with full stomach is either 1)unexperienced 2)not smart at all.


You only need doc buffs, a couple foods and a spice when you engage the jedi. All the rest of the stomach space MUST be empty for the fight. This means one can eat parwan, dmg reduction food and all the rest





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TaloKarrde
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:12 am
#25

its not too bad, it would be better if mls was worth it nowadays (unless 5th gens come along, in which case everyone will be mls)

only real problem i would have is that you have less innate armor with 4340 def than with, say, x4xx enhancer?

also, the bonuses to melee and ranged defense aren't worth it IMO since aura gives +500 defense



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BodenVolrath
Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:49 am
#26

I don't have FR, and doesn t feel like needing it so far.


25 TN from cloth attachement and parwan nutricake, some back and forth during fight to avoid kitting works ok.


I didn't die (yet) from a BH attack so I didn't need FR for sure.


Not that I wouldn't like to have it, but right now, Mdef, MLs and Heal 4040 is the best template I have played so far since the CU.


(was MLS, MEnhencer, Heal 4004 before CU)


I still have my token respec and I have 4 000 000 Jedi xp banked so if the need to change comes, I have several optionals...


Actually I have all options

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