Jedi Archive
Thread: Some Jedi don't care for PVP
Gillik wrote:
BH's r looting the good jedi CA's that are selling for 10 mil+. So all they need is some good NPC drops.
THere's part of my problem, I have a lot of friends in game and almost any AA or CA I get goes to them, with the exception of the 1 ca that had double bladed...that was mine
Message Edited by Jacella on 09-20-2005 03:05 PM
NoStyleGuy wrote:
any jedi who doesn't care for PvP shouldn't be a jedi. PvP is part of a jedi. not ur choice. period. go become a Normie if u dont like PvP
i only see bounty hunter in you sig i guess you don't care for forced PVP.
or your just not strong enough to do it.
Message Edited by blademaster30 on 09-20-2005 03:08 PM
rebellious_imp wrote:
stepping out of the game for a bit:
so with that mentality, if we suffered a hard life, then the next generation should suffer as much as we did, maybe even more?
if i had it bad my kids are gonna have it worse?
just hope you don't think the same way in real life.
Message Edited by rebellious_imp on 09-20-2005 01:01 PM
Smoothing the difficult road has been THE major factor that has lead to these nerfs. Also, many of us that did the HOLO/Village/Post CU grind feel that the path is too easy now and therefore, much like RL, the "jedi" that finish it don't have the same respect for the profession as us. They abuse systems and then whine like my alternator until everyone else is nerfed to equal or lesser levels.
Increasing the risk, the difficulty, and the hard core grinding (I hate grinding) would be thye first step in bring jedi back to it's former glory. As it stands, most new jedi haven't even used all the skills in their templates, they didn't have time!
Quiet420 wrote:
uhoh..you've got another stalker Jac
Great. Another one
Quiet420 wrote:
at the same time tho, the grind is MUCH easier now then it ever was before.
and the power is much less than ever before.
Fugitron wrote:
MrDecipher wrote:
When you choose to be jedi you know 1 thing for sure. You will be attackable by BHs always has been this was always will be this way. Don't ever expect this to change if you don't want to have to fight BHers play Jedi academy or something. The game is how it is. Jedi has from day one been given the role of a PvP oriented class with forced PvP.
When the first jedi appeared the BH system didn't exist. What I mean is that no player could hunt another at that time. As soon as more started to unlock the ability to hunt jedi was added in. So, please don't give us the whole "it has always been this way" and "you knew what to expect" rebuttles. Cause it wasn't ever stated in the manual OR in the game until they implemented BH v Jedi that they would be hunted. Yes they said the road was hard and yadda yadaa, but the grind in itself takes 4 months minimum just to get jedi. I think thats more than enough of an excuse for jedi to have more power. I personally think they should take out xp loss, because jedi are not what there were and are seriously lacking in power.
Your agument is rational, based of fact, has the merit of being well written andis not dismissive or insulting. All the reasons the majority of the posters in this forum will reject it out of hand.
The only sure way to bring balance back to SWG is to reduce the number of Jedi in the current system. The only sure way to do that is to reduce the number of players with Jedi characters. The most effective way to do that is to make the Jedi undesirable to the majority of the younglings playing them. The best way to do that is to take away mandatory pvp ie., player bounties.
hmmmm who am i to discuss this but ive allways been told if you cant take the heat get yo a$$ out of the kitchen ^^
Jacella wrote:
rebellious_imp wrote:
stepping out of the game for a bit:
so with that mentality, if we suffered a hard life, then the next generation should suffer as much as we did, maybe even more?
if i had it bad my kids are gonna have it worse?
just hope you don't think the same way in real life.
Message Edited by rebellious_imp on 09-20-2005 01:01 PM
Smoothing the difficult road has been THE major factor that has lead to these nerfs. Also, many of us that did the HOLO/Village/Post CU grind feel that the path is too easy now and therefore, much like RL, the "jedi" that finish it don't have the same respect for the profession as us. They abuse systems and then whine like my alternator until everyone else is nerfed to equal or lesser levels.
Increasing the risk, the difficulty, and the hard core grinding (I hate grinding) would be thye first step in bring jedi back to it's former glory. As it stands, most new jedi haven't even used all the skills in their templates, they didn't have time!
I did some holo and i did village grinding. I would not wish people to have to go through that mess.
Even before the post CU jedi, there was jerks running all over the place giving jedi a bad name.
It's not the difficulty of the grind or the risk that makes the jedi, it's the player behind the jedi.
I've met some pre pub 9 jedi that had a saber so far up their a$$ when they opened their mouth to speak you could hear a hum.
I know some post CU jedi that are the total opposite.
Jacella wrote:
Quiet420 wrote:
uhoh..you've got another stalker Jac
Great. Another one
well ever since she said she owned school girl uniforms in real life, I started grinding to master stalker 
Jacella wrote:
Smoothing the difficult road has been THE major factor that has lead to these nerfs. Also, many of us that did the HOLO/Village/Post CU grind feel that the path is too easy now and therefore, much like RL, the "jedi" that finish it don't have the same respect for the profession as us. They abuse systems and then whine like my alternator until everyone else is nerfed to equal or lesser levels.
Increasing the risk, the difficulty, and the hard core grinding (I hate grinding) would be thye first step in bring jedi back to it's former glory. As it stands, most new jedi haven't even used all the skills in their templates, they didn't have time!
Fugitron wrote:
MrDecipher wrote:
When you choose to be jedi you know 1 thing for sure. You will be attackable by BHs always has been this was always will be this way. Don't ever expect this to change if you don't want to have to fight BHers play Jedi academy or something. The game is how it is. Jedi has from day one been given the role of a PvP oriented class with forced PvP.
When the first jedi appeared the BH system didn't exist. What I mean is that no player could hunt another at that time. As soon as more started to unlock the ability to hunt jedi was added in. So, please don't give us the whole "it has always been this way" and "you knew what to expect" rebuttles. Cause it wasn't ever stated in the manual OR in the game until they implemented BH v Jedi that they would be hunted. Yes they said the road was hard and yadda yadaa, but the grind in itself takes 4 months minimum just to get jedi. I think thats more than enough of an excuse for jedi to have more power. I personally think they should take out xp loss, because jedi are not what there were and are seriously lacking in power.
HAHAHAHHAH! Ever heard of the saber TEF? You could be attacked by everyone on the entire server! Boy, people really are naive about how easy they have it now.
Fugitron wrote:
MrDecipher wrote:
When you choose to be jedi you know 1 thing for sure. You will be attackable by BHs always has been this was always will be this way. Don't ever expect this to change if you don't want to have to fight BHers play Jedi academy or something. The game is how it is. Jedi has from day one been given the role of a PvP oriented class with forced PvP.
When the first jedi appeared the BH system didn't exist. What I mean is that no player could hunt another at that time. As soon as more started to unlock the ability to hunt jedi was added in. So, please don't give us the whole "it has always been this way" and "you knew what to expect" rebuttles. Cause it wasn't ever stated in the manual OR in the game until they implemented BH v Jedi that they would be hunted. Yes they said the road was hard and yadda yadaa, but the grind in itself takes 4 months minimum just to get jedi. I think thats more than enough of an excuse for jedi to have more power. I personally think they should take out xp loss, because jedi are not what there were and are seriously lacking in power.
That's only really a valid argument if you happen to be one of those first folks to unlock Jedi. So yeah, if you're one of those first few, then by all means scream till you're blue in the face about how this isn't what it was like when you unlocked, that you never expected to have to PVP or be hunted.
And using the argument that it isn't in the manual is just laughable. Is ANYTHING in the original manual right anymore? The game has changed so much that the only constants now are change and bugs.