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Thread: Why should Jedi fight bounty hunters?

Quiet420
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:18 pm
#14

it's not undignified to make a tactical retreat when you have nothing to gain and your opponent has nothing to lose.


and there is plenty of pvp available elsewhere for any bh who gets frustrated by that.


Virtuell
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:21 pm
#15






SWG_Miriam wrote:
Why should Jedi fight bounty hunters?

Answer:


(1) Because it's undignified to run away from a bounty hunter like a scared little girl.

(2) As stated above, Jedi is a PvP profession. The only way to become proficient at PvP is to actually PvP in an actual PvP setting where anything goes. Many Jedi think they can gain PvP experience by dueling their buddies on the roof of a guild hall. Doing this is the difference between theory and practice. The best way to get better at PvP is to stay and fight bounty hunters who come for you. Unfortunately there are way too many no-skill newb Jedi who cannot understand this concept and wouldn't know what to do when bounty hunters actually come for them.


From experience I've found that Jedi use that "I have nothing to gain from fighting a BH" excuse to cover up the fact that they lack any PvP skill whatsoever. If a Jedi knows how to PvP he will fight every single time. The one who don't know how to fight stand around and ask: "Why should Jedi fight bounty hunters?"





1. Who cares if it is undignified to run. If someone is grinding their template it is wise not to fight (unless you feel you will win), take up as much time as possible for the bounty hunter and they will probably drop thier mission.


2. In a sense Jedi is about PvP, on the other hand there are disciplines such as healer and powers which add support to PvP. So when you are ready and feel attuned to you template then fight, before that it is just a waste of xp if you loose.




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TraceAntilles
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:25 pm
#16

Its alot more fun to play a non Jedi profession, I am glad they made the alt characters.


I'd never haveunlocked without that reward.


I've had more BH's run than not, it goes both ways and makes good tactical sense.


Hence when Qui-Gonn and Obi-Wan were at a "stand off" and hit the FR2 button.


Hence when Luke Skywalker decided to fall off the spire in Bespin instead of sticking it out with Vader.


Hence when Jango Fett flew off after killing Zam instead of finishing the Jedi off instead or as well.


Hence when Yoda made his flight into exile.



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kevbo73
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:29 pm
#17






SWG_Miriam wrote:

Also, the excuses that Jedi use to run away from bounty hunters are the EXACT reasons why bounty hunters have no problem DB'ing a Jedi who was incapped by a piket, or jumping a Jedi when they are attacking a lair, ... because most are no-skill-having newbs who would run at the first opportunity they have. So the best way to complete a mission is to strike Jedi in these underhanded scenarios.


It's a no-win situation for bounty hunters. If a bounty hunter waits for the Jedi to get ready for a fight, the Jedi force runs out of there and doesn't fight. If a bounty hunter doesn't wait for the Jedi to get ready for a fight and jumps the Jedi when he is attacking a lair, the bounty hunter gets called all sorts of obscene names saying he's a cheater or dishonorable.


There is nothing a Jedi wouldn't do to lie, cheat or steal. It's the reason I hunt the lot of them.





Wow! you truly have a warped sense of reality.



If you were the one being attacted when you least expected it, (or perhaps even AFK for the brief moment taking a leak). Ill bet the only reasonyou didn't curse the person out is because you just threw your keyboard across the room enragedat just the thought of spending the next day or two getting out of the XP hole you were just put in.






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Grunzer
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:32 pm
#18


Honestly I don't know why the BH's do it. The payouts aren't enough to cover the expense of facing 1 full temp Jedi.


I guess it's just a matter of giving them something to do. But yeah, there's 0 incentive to stay and fight. and if your less than a full template, you'll just lose anyway, so better to run, hide. and stay alive.





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CherryCoke
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:33 pm
#19






kevbo73 wrote:





SWG_Miriam wrote:

Also, the excuses that Jedi use to run away from bounty hunters are the EXACT reasons why bounty hunters have no problem DB'ing a Jedi who was incapped by a piket, or jumping a Jedi when they are attacking a lair, ... because most are no-skill-having newbs who would run at the first opportunity they have. So the best way to complete a mission is to strike Jedi in these underhanded scenarios.


It's a no-win situation for bounty hunters. If a bounty hunter waits for the Jedi to get ready for a fight, the Jedi force runs out of there and doesn't fight. If a bounty hunter doesn't wait for the Jedi to get ready for a fight and jumps the Jedi when he is attacking a lair, the bounty hunter gets called all sorts of obscene names saying he's a cheater or dishonorable.


There is nothing a Jedi wouldn't do to lie, cheat or steal. It's the reason I hunt the lot of them.





Wow! you truly have a warped sense of reality.



If you were the one being attacted when you least expected it, (or perhaps even AFK for the brief moment taking a leak). Ill bet the only reasonyou didn't curse the person out is because you just threw your keyboard across the room enragedat just the thought of spending the nextHOUR or two getting out of the XP hole you were just put in.






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kevbo73
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:35 pm
#20




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kevbo73
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:39 pm
#21






CherryCoke wrote:





kevbo73 wrote:





SWG_Miriam wrote:

Also, the excuses that Jedi use to run away from bounty hunters are the EXACT reasons why bounty hunters have no problem DB'ing a Jedi who was incapped by a piket, or jumping a Jedi when they are attacking a lair, ... because most are no-skill-having newbs who would run at the first opportunity they have. So the best way to complete a mission is to strike Jedi in these underhanded scenarios.


It's a no-win situation for bounty hunters. If a bounty hunter waits for the Jedi to get ready for a fight, the Jedi force runs out of there and doesn't fight. If a bounty hunter doesn't wait for the Jedi to get ready for a fight and jumps the Jedi when he is attacking a lair, the bounty hunter gets called all sorts of obscene names saying he's a cheater or dishonorable.


There is nothing a Jedi wouldn't do to lie, cheat or steal. It's the reason I hunt the lot of them.





Wow! you truly have a warped sense of reality.



If you were the one being attacted when you least expected it, (or perhaps even AFK for the brief moment taking a leak). Ill bet the only reasonyou didn't curse the person out is because you just threw your keyboard across the room enragedat just the thought of spending the nextHOUR or two getting out of the XP hole you were just put in.






POST-CU fix for j00






I suppose If I didn't have a Job and a RL, I could very well do that every day. Happily I do,


But, I suppose if I could log in and get a buff and all my buddys just happen to be on line and want to spin with me right when i log on for the day. that just might be possible. Given I can afford to play more than 2 hours and things go just right.



Please excuse me for my Post-CU error.







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Traga
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:40 pm
#22

I f you don't feel like killing them, then do what some of us do, planet hop to Yavin go out in the middle of the water for 5 minutes or so, then go back to your home planet by then the BH will get tired and drop your mission. There is nothing wrong with a little follow the leader all around the galaxy.
mindspat
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:41 pm
#23






SWG_Miriam wrote:
Why should Jedi fight bounty hunters?

Answer:


(1) Because it's undignified to run away from a bounty hunter like a scared little girl.

(2) As stated above, Jedi is a PvP profession. The only way to become proficient at PvP is to actually PvP in an actual PvP setting where anything goes. Many Jedi think they can gain PvP experience by dueling their buddies on the roof of a guild hall. Doing this is the difference between theory and practice. The best way to get better at PvP is to stay and fight bounty hunters who come for you. Unfortunately there are way too many no-skill newb Jedi who cannot understand this concept and wouldn't know what to do when bounty hunters actually come for them.


From experience I've found that Jedi use that "I have nothing to gain from fighting a BH" excuse to cover up the fact that they lack any PvP skill whatsoever. If a Jedi knows how to PvP he will fight every single time. The one who don't know how to fight stand around and ask: "Why should Jedi fight bounty hunters?"






lmao This poster above is a REAL winner!


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acmtalk
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:42 pm
#24






SlaineKhaos wrote:

This might or might not have been discussed before, but I don't know, so I'm posting it for me. I'm asking that because other than the thrill of the fight there's nothing in it for a Jedi.


If a bounty hunter dies he's got to lose a couple droids, couple foods, and half an hour. If they win they get money.


On the other hand, the Jedi gets nothing in case of victory and has a lot to lose in case of defeat. But then "l33t bh dat cnat spel rite" will start talking all sorts of trash: ie. ahahahaha u wuss lol u coward etc.


Sure there's gonna be the 25 bounty hunters that post here coming and telling me how I should stay off the terms, and how that's the price for being a Jedi, oppinion which I respected before, but when you have a level 60 padawan having to fight a level 80 bounty hunter, how can you tell them that? When you have a MBH/MCM after you dealing 1500 damage a second, how can you tell them that?


I hope I made some sense in this post. :/


Anyway, /rant off.


Thanks for reading.





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SWG_Miriam
Thu Sep 22, 2005 10:44 pm
#25






kevbo73 wrote:





CherryCoke wrote:





kevbo73 wrote:





SWG_Miriam wrote:

Also, the excuses that Jedi use to run away from bounty hunters are the EXACT reasons why bounty hunters have no problem DB'ing a Jedi who was incapped by a piket, or jumping a Jedi when they are attacking a lair, ... because most are no-skill-having newbs who would run at the first opportunity they have. So the best way to complete a mission is to strike Jedi in these underhanded scenarios.


It's a no-win situation for bounty hunters. If a bounty hunter waits for the Jedi to get ready for a fight, the Jedi force runs out of there and doesn't fight. If a bounty hunter doesn't wait for the Jedi to get ready for a fight and jumps the Jedi when he is attacking a lair, the bounty hunter gets called all sorts of obscene names saying he's a cheater or dishonorable.


There is nothing a Jedi wouldn't do to lie, cheat or steal. It's the reason I hunt the lot of them.





Wow! you truly have a warped sense of reality.



If you were the one being attacted when you least expected it, (or perhaps even AFK for the brief moment taking a leak). Ill bet the only reasonyou didn't curse the person out is because you just threw your keyboard across the room enragedat just the thought of spending the nextHOUR or two getting out of the XP hole you were just put in.






POST-CU fix for j00






I suppose If I didn't have a Job and a RL, I could very well do that every day. Happily I do,


But, I suppose if I could log in and get a buff and all my buddys just happen to be on line and want to spin with me right when i log on for the day. that just might be possible. Given I can afford to play more than 2 hours and things go just right.



Please excuse me for my Post-CU error.









I agree with you. I abhor grinding. When I switched my template around a couple of weeks ago I nearly pulled my hair out from the boredom -- and I only grinded TWO branches of an elite combat profession. I can't even imagine the boredom each Jedi I've killed goes through to earn back 452k Jedi XP. It would take me a heck of a lot longer than an hour to get back 452k Jedi XP. It's the entire reason I have not pursued force sensitivity -- it's a silly, unrewarding pursuit and it boggles my mind why people still do it just so they can be a little more powerful than everyone else.



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UberNinjaOfDoom
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:00 pm
#26


SWG_Miriam wrote:
Why should Jedi fight bounty hunters?
Answer:

(1) Because it's undignified to run away from a bounty hunter like a scared little girl.



That argument would worked for me way back when I was 13 years old..and my hormones were out of wack. Now that I grew up I know that having nothing to gain, and exp to lose is simply bad buisness. If you get a thrill out fighting BH and are willing to put few hours of grinding on the line for no reward other then stroking your ego... then have fun. Some of us consider this foolish and dumb

(2) As stated above, Jedi is a PvP profession. The only way to become proficient at PvP is to actually PvP in an actual PvP setting where anything goes. Many Jedi think they can gain PvP experience by dueling their buddies on the roof of a guild hall. Doing this is the difference between theory and practice. The best way to get better at PvP is to stay and fight bounty hunters who come for you. Unfortunately there are way too many no-skill newb Jedi who cannot understand this concept and wouldn't know what to do when bounty hunters actually come for them.
From experience I've found that Jedi use that "I have nothing to gain from fighting a BH" excuse to cover up the fact that they lack any PvP skill whatsoever. If a Jedi knows how to PvP he will fight every single time. The one who don't know how to fight stand around and ask: "Why should Jedi fight bounty hunters?"





Lol... are you trying to say that jedi who do not fight BH have no PVP L34t UBER OWNZ YOU SKILLZ. ? Should my mighty jedi heart skip a bit ? HAHA... Some people dont care for PVP, and do not think that knowing how to PVP makes you special... "From my experience" most hardcore PVP players make TERRIBLE JEDI !! No matter how many times you parrot "Jedi is a PVP profession" this is is still a SWG MMORPG and not SWG JEDI Quake.

Even if you like PVP, it should be Dark vs Light Jedi and not Jedi vs BH.

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