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Thread: A simple solution to forced PvP

Windrider01
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:20 am
#14

"I'm generally very civil on the forums but in this case, shut your mouth carebear. Jedi is a forced pvp class and you knew this ahead of time. If you don't enjoy your gameplay sessions with the class you chose to play then change to any other class in the game because none of them are forced pvp. It's amazing how pathetic the Jedi players are on this game because all they seem to do is ask for nerfs on each other, cry about forced pvp and bounty hunters and want everything handed to them on a silver platter. Give me better pearls...whaaaa....give me another respec...whaaaa...**edit**. You don't sign up to join the military then piss and moan about being sent to war, its the path you chose now live with it. "







QFE


nothing is forced...you can run from the BH, not get vis, or choose another profession. The choice is yours and so are the consequences.



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Eurus Windrider
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"Thus the highest realization of warfare is to attack the enemy's plans; next is to attack their alliances;
next to attack their army; and the lowest is to attack their fortified cities." Sun Tzu






Cutlass-Shadowfire
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:25 am
#15






CtsDruid wrote:

Lol i love these whining posts Jedi is a PVP profession, i think that BH should stay....


I find it fustrating that a BH comes along at bad times but thats the risk for been a Jedi you accepted this when you became one..


The way i see it is that either lose your Jedi and become a normal character prof again or don't get any Visability..


The choice is yours..


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Now when you have to Regrind BH let me know about the Whining , you already have an upperhand at the BH you attack when you want , can have reinforcements (droids or get a mission with up to 5 others(thats a challenge to kill then)) and Heve NOTHING to Lose if you die or incomplete the mission, I know my Alt is MBH-MCM , the biggest thing I lose is a little Decay every once in a while, so I would say Since your a Bh and posting on the Jedi Forums , go to your own Fourms , as someone with Nothing to lose , brag to your friends that your past time is to make Jedi Regrind hours and hours of XP cause you jumped them when they were busy grinding XP to begin with , so I are da elete BH who does da killin.


I would hope the Dev's make something in The Powers Tree with the ability to attack your BH before he attacks you some Sence to detect an attack is eminant (sp?) , because in the movies the jedi do sence an attack, if there looking for it. Also a penality would be nice for the BH who die , XP loss be too much for them? or would they whine ?



Cutlass


Aikes
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:28 am
#16


ROFL


You respec huggy bear hippy love fest and ebay jedi who never have PvPed and dont know how to lose with grace or learn how to win are soooooofunny.


If you dont want to PvP


#1 Dont go for one of the top two main PvP templates, namedly Jedi and Bounty Hunter.


#2 If you do go for Jedi, then stay off the terms or dont go overt.


#3 Never duel anyone, grab a fishing pole and shut your pie hole.


You follow these simple steps and PvP wont come your way, and your Jedi will officialy be GAY


Did you happen to miss the word WAR in "Star Wars" and do you truly want to try to convince yourself its all about who can heal the best? HHHUUUUGGGGYYYYY..... just go play SIMs

magneto2
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:30 am
#17

umm, being a jedi would seem to be more about avoiding combat, than having 6 BH on u in a hour....how many full temp jedi worry about vis? i dont mind a BH once an hour, just give me some time to play the game




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czaeba
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:31 am
#18






Xato wrote:

A solution to this could be the introduction of something similar to the current GCW status.



The solution to the problem was already introduced when they sent every jedi a gmail saying that our profession is a dangerous one and that we can expect to be hunted.


We have GOT to bring back the saber TEF to cleanse our profession from those who do not deserve the honor of being among the hunted.




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Windrider01
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:35 am
#19

Let me just add if you're full temp. and hate the length of the fights between BH's. then just type /dump and /prone and wait a few seconds for the BH to win...then if you're master enh. you can pop back up or keep a doc handy for a rez. Problem solved.





Eurus Windrider
Master Powers
Ace Imperial Pilot
"Thus the highest realization of warfare is to attack the enemy's plans; next is to attack their alliances;
next to attack their army; and the lowest is to attack their fortified cities." Sun Tzu






magneto2
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:39 am
#20

lol




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Ademar
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:42 am
#21






Xato wrote:

As a full template Jedi with no interest in PvP at all, I get rather annoyed at other players deciding to take up my gametime to show me how well they can heal. I regularly lead grinding groups for my guildies, and its also annoying for them to have to wait 30 mins for me when a BH attacks. I have a top end sabre and am MLS, but even so, a good healer can easily keep the fight going for a long long time, even though they have no hope of being any real danger to me. Before the CU, fights (for me anyway) were over much more quickly, as so it was much less of an issue. A session for me lasts roughly two hours at the moment, so I really don't want a BH taking up a large chunk of that.


That said, a lot of Jedi and BH love these fights, and are very into PvP. A solution to this could be the introduction of something similar to the current GCW status.


For example:


A Neutral Jedi cannot be hunted (Obviously they would not be able to participate in the GCW or future FRS)

A Rebel Jedi can be huntedby Imperialor Neutral BH, or Imperial Jedi.

A Imperial Jedi can be hunted by Rebel or Neutral BH, or Rebel Jedi.


This would allow the non-PvP Jedi to play in peace, and also would allow extra content for PvP Jedi, as they would be able to hunt in the same way a BH can.


Just my thoughts, after having another playing session disrupted again by another healing BH who it took 30 mins to incap. I suppose I could stay off the terminals, but then I am closing down a big part of the game - animals aren't exactly fun to fight...










I haven't read the other posts but the problem i see with this is if a jedi wants to grind bh free all they would have to do is go neutral and lvl with no risk.



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Cutlass-Shadowfire
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:49 am
#22






Aikes wrote:


ROFL


You respec huggy bear hippy love fest and ebay jedi who never have PvPed and dont know how to lose with grace or learn how to win are soooooofunny.


If you dont want to PvP


#1 Dont go for one of the top two main PvP templates, namedly Jedi and Bounty Hunter.


#2 If you do go for Jedi, then stay off the terms or dont go overt.


#3 Never duel anyone, grab a fishing pole and shut your pie hole.


You follow these simple steps and PvP wont come your way, and your Jedi will officialy be GAY


Did you happen to miss the word WAR in "Star Wars" and do you truly want to try to convince yourself its all about who can heal the best? HHHUUUUGGGGYYYYY..... just go play SIMs







LOL you proved you know nothing of being a Jedi.


Try it some time you will Cry when your First death from a BH happens when your "Not Ready" , or your On the terms cause someone rode by and got you Vis , or an NPC walked to close to your lair while you were grinding , or your Bike gave you Vis (that one I still dont understand) or you Tuned a Crystal or pearl near someone and got Vis , or even used Force Run around people or even Aura and you got Vis.


Wow it seems there isnt alot a Jedi can do but get Vis, so maybe you need to know what you are talking about before you prove your IQ is 100 and after this post it was reduced to 45.


Cutlass


Stevewoodley64
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:51 am
#23


A Neutral Jedi cannot be hunted (Obviously they would not be able to participate in the GCW or future FRS)

A Rebel Jedi can be huntedby Imperialor Neutral BH, or Imperial Jedi.

A Imperial Jedi can be hunted by Rebel or Neutral BH, or Rebel Jedi.







Hmmm if this happened when i was grinding my jedi template i could be neutral and never get hunted or loose xp wot a crap idea sorry but therewould be hundreds of full temps running around. i liked the danger when grinding it keeps the game more interesting


Oceanic
Xato
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:56 am
#24




Ademar wrote:





I haven't read the other posts but the problem i see with this is if a jedi wants to grind bh free all they would have to do is go neutral and lvl with no risk.







This is true. However, I don't really see a problem with Jedi being able to grind BH free. Long gone are the days when Jedi were rare, and the BH were helping to keep them that way. SOE have specifically unrarified Jedi, and the forced PvP system is a relic of a time past. BH are an annoyance to Jedi, with no reason for that annoyance to be there. The system proposed would remove an annoyance from players who find it an annoyance. Those who enjoy PvP, or can put up with the annoyance, will have the FRS as a reward for their patience.



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trajen2
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:02 am
#25

I love to PvP...ask Eurus and Magneto...I've met both of the on he battlefied...


I do not, however, enjoy fighting the new breed of BHs...it lasts sooooooo long and is sooooooo boring. The original poster hit on the head when he said the BH shows "how well he heals. . " Thats all it is. If you are not having the same experience then you aren't doing something right...


The new breed of BHs come in with guns blazing and hit for a whopping 200-300 points of damage . . . less I'm sure if the jedi is a MDef. . . If i get lucky with an AB / KD / Power hit combo, i hit him for over 1800 points which he heals in nearly one heal. ..


If he isnt laying DoTs on me, he is snaring or KD. . . it just gets friggin' annoying and the only way he can win is if he manages to reduce my force pool.


I was PvPing all night last night and was getting ready to logoff when a BH hit me . . .i was in a base, 10 seconds into my logoff countdown when he somehow got into the base (he was neutral) and Tef'd me. I stasis and FR3 away just so i could go to bed...


pests is all they are.







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Xato
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:04 am
#26






Stevewoodley64 wrote:


A Neutral Jedi cannot be hunted (Obviously they would not be able to participate in the GCW or future FRS)

A Rebel Jedi can be huntedby Imperialor Neutral BH, or Imperial Jedi.

A Imperial Jedi can be hunted by Rebel or Neutral BH, or Rebel Jedi.







Hmmm if this happened when i was grinding my jedi template i could be neutral and never get hunted or loose xp wot a crap idea sorry but therewould be hundreds of full temps running around. i liked the danger when grinding it keeps the game more interesting


Oceanic





From my own experience - BH don't put back the grind much at all. I very much doubt it would result in more full template Jedi. Its the time involved that puts potential Jedi off, not the BH. You do have a point that when there is a danger to yourself, it does make it more interesting. Maybe a xp bonus for being reb/imp would encourage the younglings to take the risk. The point is, there is very little danger to a full temp (depending on the temp of course), so it stops becoming interesting, and becomes a time wasting annoyance.



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Sergeant Major Xaton - Rebel Spy, Pilot of LGN X1-Killing Time
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