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Thread: Devs are helping the bh's again.

GoergeJung
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:18 am
#14

George Lucas WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These guys are ruining your game with every passing patch & their Ideas get worse with each passing day. If they do nerf pre cu pearls/crystals for which all of us worked real hard for, spent tons of credits, tons of time hunting elders/dragons, I'll leave the game. This is getting out of hand, who hired these ppl that are handling the game? The must really hate Star Wars & this game. I think everyone should quit SWG if this idea is even considered.



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tacwraith
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:33 am
#15

Actually I think its a good idea.



Before you flame consider this:



There is a MASSIVE power imbalance between precu jedi and new jedi. Its akin to all other proffs having an issue of precu players having all superguns made from power cells and other new loot while post-cu players have access to mediocre resources made weapons with no powerups. Its that big a difference.


I think the devs are doing to jedi crystals/pearls what they did to all other weapons in the CU: conversion.


that way all precu jedi will likely have the advantage of having beyond good crystal/pearls but not extremely overpowering ones..new jedi will have the chance to get those items too but just like the old precu jedi, they will have to tune lots of them to get a good saber.








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Jacella
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:40 am
#16

What's probably going to happen is that pearls/crystals will be all readjusted so that they are more equal. It may mean a temporary debuff until they realize how bad they screwed up and turn up the damage.





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JonArdan
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:50 am
#17

publish 9 my 900+damege pearls whent to max of 20/20 -4s than the CU hits and my 50/50 -9s whent to 100/100 -9s(buged and CSR will not fix)i get very worryed when i hear of a pearl/crystal revamp of any kind.


FACT every time they miss with pearls/crystal they are NEVER as good as before



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Ikict
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:01 am
#18

Taking away the pre-cu pearls will only work if you get back the amount that you have tuned. With a guarrentied 110+ damage, - 8-9 fc.


Otherwise Jedi will be 1.5 worse than an elite profession


tamer_bourne
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:11 am
#19

Interim doesn't mean they will not work someday..



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jonaga
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:12 am
#20






Tanilith wrote:

If they do that, they are effectively saying "we don't give a **edit** about our veteran players, buh-bye."


By taking away the pearls / crystals from Pre-CU, they are taking away something that older Jedi put an incredible amount of time and money into. No where near what is required now, granted, but still a sizable chunk of cash and time.


This would be equivalent to getting rid of all the uber Pre-CU resources so that damage capped weapons can't be made for BHs.


I for one would permanetly leave the game at that point, unless a very favorable solution were provided.









Kinda like all those pre-cu uber dot weapons, uber posions, uber krayt and geo weapons ... etc ....etc


Hate to say it, but SOE has a track record in this department, and they are pushing for gold in the "not care" division. Basically Jedi were the only veteren players to NOT GET SCREWED with the cu conversion.








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Pootle
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:14 am
#21






jonaga wrote:





Tanilith wrote:

If they do that, they are effectively saying "we don't give a **edit** about our veteran players, buh-bye."


By taking away the pearls / crystals from Pre-CU, they are taking away something that older Jedi put an incredible amount of time and money into. No where near what is required now, granted, but still a sizable chunk of cash and time.


This would be equivalent to getting rid of all the uber Pre-CU resources so that damage capped weapons can't be made for BHs.


I for one would permanetly leave the game at that point, unless a very favorable solution were provided.









Kinda like all those pre-cu uber dot weapons, uber posions, uber krayt and geo weapons ... etc ....etc


Hate to say it, but SOE has a track record in this department, and they are pushing for gold in the "not care" division. Basically Jedi were the only veteren players to NOT GET SCREWED with the cu conversion.






ermm they did, many decently tuned pearls got completely mauled in the CU conversion




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Jediknight2k1
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:15 am
#22

Does anyone have a transcript of last nights "chat" ?



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jonaga
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:19 am
#23






Pootle wrote:





jonaga wrote:





Tanilith wrote:

If they do that, they are effectively saying "we don't give a **edit** about our veteran players, buh-bye."


By taking away the pearls / crystals from Pre-CU, they are taking away something that older Jedi put an incredible amount of time and money into. No where near what is required now, granted, but still a sizable chunk of cash and time.


This would be equivalent to getting rid of all the uber Pre-CU resources so that damage capped weapons can't be made for BHs.


I for one would permanetly leave the game at that point, unless a very favorable solution were provided.









Kinda like all those pre-cu uber dot weapons, uber posions, uber krayt and geo weapons ... etc ....etc


Hate to say it, but SOE has a track record in this department, and they are pushing for gold in the "not care" division. Basically Jedi were the only veteren players to NOT GET SCREWED with the cu conversion.






ermm they did, many decently tuned pearls got completely mauled in the CU conversion







On a whole not in the slightest. Talk to some of the people that had insaneweaponsthat converted to less than craftable or loot items. While there may have been some instances here and there for bad pearl conversions, for the most part every single pre-cu jedi I have talked to had their pearls come out well. If that wasn't the case, then we would not have 18 bazillion posts on this topic, including this very thread. I don't really see all those pistoleers and rifleman complaining about pre-cu weapons.











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Pootle
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:23 am
#24






jonaga wrote:






Pootle wrote:





jonaga wrote:





Tanilith wrote:

If they do that, they are effectively saying "we don't give a **edit** about our veteran players, buh-bye."


By taking away the pearls / crystals from Pre-CU, they are taking away something that older Jedi put an incredible amount of time and money into. No where near what is required now, granted, but still a sizable chunk of cash and time.


This would be equivalent to getting rid of all the uber Pre-CU resources so that damage capped weapons can't be made for BHs.


I for one would permanetly leave the game at that point, unless a very favorable solution were provided.









Kinda like all those pre-cu uber dot weapons, uber posions, uber krayt and geo weapons ... etc ....etc


Hate to say it, but SOE has a track record in this department, and they are pushing for gold in the "not care" division. Basically Jedi were the only veteren players to NOT GET SCREWED with the cu conversion.






ermm they did, many decently tuned pearls got completely mauled in the CU conversion







On a whole not in the slightest. Talk to some of the people that had insaneweaponsthat converted to less than craftable or loot items. While there may have been some instances here and there for bad pearl conversions, for the most part every single pre-cu jedi I have talked to had their pearls come out well. If that wasn't the case, then we would not have 18 bazillion posts on this topic, including this very thread. I don't really see all those pistoleers and rifleman complaining about pre-cu weapons.





Some of my guns that got converted are way better now than they ever were pre-cu, I haven't heard of one case where a poearl/crystal was converted to be better. I ain't disagreeing with you tho that a lot of nice weapons got the shaft, as I had a fair few that became paperweights over night.
But it wasn't all roses for the Jedi either




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XXCambriaXX
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:23 am
#25

Hey this is shadow, a bounty hunter, try not to flame me on this one, but I figured out something about jedi and why they're nerfing pearls, There nerfing them for The Post CU jedi Who hit for ALOT less dmg then the PrePearl/presaber old jedis that hit up to +300 dmg harder, Even with my armorbreak sliced, armor I still get hit for 1400 dmg while Kded/Armorbreaked and there sabers are so fast its pathetic, and these new jedis are so much easier to kill.... anyways you get what I mean, also LS's have better dmg then any other weapons ingame, cause there Min Dmg Is 85% of what there max dmg is, so they almost always hit criticle even with a 1340 dmg rifle its min dmg is only 350, so it hits for about 650 dmg - all the defences, and now I seem to be hitting Jedis(preCU) for like... a 67 dmg(IDK maybe my 1045 DE-10s Bugged) but thats how much my advanced criticle hits for... thats my bits...


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jonaga
Thu Sep 22, 2005 8:30 am
#26






Pootle wrote:






jonaga wrote:






Pootle wrote:





jonaga wrote:





Tanilith wrote:

If they do that, they are effectively saying "we don't give a **edit** about our veteran players, buh-bye."


By taking away the pearls / crystals from Pre-CU, they are taking away something that older Jedi put an incredible amount of time and money into. No where near what is required now, granted, but still a sizable chunk of cash and time.


This would be equivalent to getting rid of all the uber Pre-CU resources so that damage capped weapons can't be made for BHs.


I for one would permanetly leave the game at that point, unless a very favorable solution were provided.









Kinda like all those pre-cu uber dot weapons, uber posions, uber krayt and geo weapons ... etc ....etc


Hate to say it, but SOE has a track record in this department, and they are pushing for gold in the "not care" division. Basically Jedi were the only veteren players to NOT GET SCREWED with the cu conversion.






ermm they did, many decently tuned pearls got completely mauled in the CU conversion







On a whole not in the slightest. Talk to some of the people that had insaneweaponsthat converted to less than craftable or loot items. While there may have been some instances here and there for bad pearl conversions, for the most part every single pre-cu jedi I have talked to had their pearls come out well. If that wasn't the case, then we would not have 18 bazillion posts on this topic, including this very thread. I don't really see all those pistoleers and rifleman complaining about pre-cu weapons.





Some of my guns that got converted are way better now than they ever were pre-cu, I haven't heard of one case where a poearl/crystal was converted to be better. I ain't disagreeing with you tho that a lot of nice weapons got the shaft, as I had a fair few that became paperweights over night.
But it wasn't all roses for the Jedi either






yea ... I am not saying that at all. I am simply saying on a whole, most weapons other than sabers converted to significantly less than what they were before. Most of it had to do with re-classifying weapons and their level certs. Think about all the nice dxr-6 rifles or the scyth blades or gaffies or jawa ion rifles that are now like level 30-50 weapons. I had an uber dxr-6 that cost millions that I would not even grind with now. Pre-cu I could out damage groups with it.


For the most part, most weapons got straight screwed, you were only lucky if you had maybe a t21 or a PH or some other weapon that retained its cert level.


I don't think I have heard of one saber that went to a level 30 and dropped to 200 DPS.


Message Edited by jonaga on 09-22-2005 11:32 AM






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