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Thread: Master Enhancer Destroyed?

Dvol
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:21 pm
#14


Being a Master enhancer for long time i must say the jedi profession gets worse with each new whine/nerf..


Example-


*player A complains none stop he cant Kill Player B because Player A has a Skill Player B uses....


so to appease all the Player A's Dev-a Nerfs Player B's profession...


*then Player B Whines Moans and Groans(legitly and constructively)only when his profession getsNerfed orBroken..which are U?


Im player B


Now I took enhancer way way before the CU and i Mean Way..so it has been my experience that with Each Patch another working Profession is sensely Reduced and or Broke..I had FR3 pre cu and i can tell u what we have now aint what it was..neither is Force Armor..at times i cant tell i have it on anymore cept the missing purple bar ala armorbreak... now instead of haven one useless tree ill have 2...WoW thanks SOE


so why have enhancer??


then i took itcause i enjoy PvP and it was the better Build for me..


Nowu get neat little graphics and special effects those work... hahaha..sweet....seems to me originally the DEVS wanted to expand other Builds in the game...but the more they patch the more it seems Back to pigeonHoled into a set template..if u recaller 4004 heal to be able to counter KD dizzy( which Id take back in a heart beat as opposed to this mess)


Now the CU was combat upgrade so...whats been upgraded...hams and buffs...and combat still isnt what was promised..at least to me it isnt..so here i am making a futile request just fix the game make it fun again Stop Nerfing things that work and Just fix the stuff that dont....IE Smugglers-comandos-Rangers- and Jedi...i hope all this is just padawan stuff and the frs is were our power lies..cause if its not better or fun...well i dont see a future for the game i love.....sorry for the lenth...


Message Edited by Dvol on 10-12-2005 02:31 PM



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Swanheart
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:26 pm
#15


Man dodged the nerf bullet on Mdefender, dodged another on Mpowers, third time's the charm it seems.


We are running out on skill trees.



GAME OVER



Tanilith
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:27 pm
#16

Dvol -


You forgot that our resists line really doesn't do much of anything either. I can't remember the last time I resisted a 'Dizzy' attack . . . not to mention, I'm not even sure its worth while to try and resist them . . .





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AdiWanTinova
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:36 pm
#17

Looks like all Jedi are being herded into one area:


MLS / Def: 4040 / Enh: 3402 / Healer: 4000


Next patch will read:


"All Jedi with either of the following templates:


MLS / Def: 4040 / Enh: 3402 / Healer: 4000 - or - MLS / Def: 4440 / Enh: 3002 / Healer: 4000


.... have successfully been removed of all Jedi capabilities."





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Tanilith
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:40 pm
#18






AdiWanTinova wrote:

Looks like all Jedi are being herded into one area:


MLS / Def: 4040 / Enh: 3402 / Healer: 4000


Next patch will read:


"All Jedi with either of the following templates:


MLS / Def: 4040 / Enh: 3402 / Healer: 4000 - or - MLS / Def: 4440 / Enh: 3002 / Healer: 4000


.... have successfully been removed of all Jedi capabilities."





I think you are right on the money with that first temp, seeing as how x4xx Defender is broke too . . .



Tanilith Wing'Dvan

Master Saber / Master Enhancer / 4040 Healer

Light Jedi Knight - Strength Through Honor



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mmmmmpie
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:40 pm
#19






Tanilith wrote:

Dvol -


You forgot that our resists line really doesn't do much of anything either. I can't remember the last time I resisted a 'Dizzy' attack . . . not to mention, I'm not even sure its worth while to try and resist them . . .







i cant remember the last time sumone hit me with dizzy in PvP if i wasnt bugged adn had the animation buzzin my head...



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Dvol
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:44 pm
#20


To add to my post and respond...


Yeah Resist havent worked right ever rarely did i resist anything..we tested this alot..so all the 0040 tree does is remove alot of force..


Force Armor Pre cu allowed me to Either A-stand and fight multiple Targets till force ran out or B-survive long enough to Hit FR3 to escape...this alone is why i picked up MEnhancer..i could do either and it was balanced somewhat..if i Had 0 force i couldnt Run nore Heal nore stay alive-so what was so unbalanced about it pre cu?


So IMO Enhancer has gotten several Nerfs and now1 more Reduction to it...it used to work...and i grinded Master enhancer twice....cause i didnt want to be a me too build but ended up that way...and that was a year ago for 6 months in total isolation..


what happended to the Force Bar being what ment Life or death of a Jedi?Now its lets change it so that others can kill it..and So its more like Master healer and less desired build..and then we can have a Whole server full of self Snaring Powers and Defenders...woot fun....


Fix things dont change others to counter a working profession...ie Doc-McM-MBH-Ranged Professions ect-


to fixEnhancerid like to seefixes toForce armor ..itneeds alot more looking into i honestly can only tell i have it on except in pve barely but i take 150 to 200 pts less of damage for a whole crap load of force...seems broke to me..Armor Break is the lamest idea sense Fire dots of 1000 plus which id gladly take back now i have a tree i can get to counter it...Resist states should change to self buffs for extra regen or action or resist to Armor Break-Snares-Roots and one buff to resist state attacks that actually workst...the whole Root system IMO is Garbage but one of the Few skills left that actually works..so Guess its next...


and i agree with the above posters seems Hybrid temps are Forced upon on those of us that like PvP..typical

Message Edited by Dvol on 10-12-2005 02:48 PM



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AdiWanTinova
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:44 pm
#21

I'm a little worried with this recent revelation. I remain hopefull that this does not enter into the game, and ruin my love for FR3.


Many a time have I /regain'ed with 2-3 people standing over my corpse, to /stasis, KD, and /sweep 2-to-3 before they can get a hit off. I then activate FR3 before even healing, and make for the hills. If there are others around, a /forceWave would ruin all of that. I'd be a dead duck ... no point to have /regain, because they'll just sit over you the entire time you're dead ... waiting for you to stand up so that they can /forceWave you again ...


I see this as completely pointless, and moreso - very disheartening. I will remain strong in my faith that they will not ruin my love for the M.E. box.





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TylerDarkman
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:44 pm
#22






Tanilith wrote:





AdiWanTinova wrote:

Looks like all Jedi are being herded into one area:


MLS / Def: 4040 / Enh: 3402 / Healer: 4000


Next patch will read:


"All Jedi with either of the following templates:


MLS / Def: 4040 / Enh: 3402 / Healer: 4000 - or - MLS / Def: 4440 / Enh: 3002 / Healer: 4000


.... have successfully been removed of all Jedi capabilities."





I think you are right on the money with that first temp, seeing as how x4xx Defender is broke too . . .





While that is a nice well rounded template of skills, the lose of Force Pool is his weakness. In J v J, the double master will win.
AdiWanTinova
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:50 pm
#23






TylerDarkman wrote:





Tanilith wrote:





AdiWanTinova wrote:

Looks like all Jedi are being herded into one area:


MLS / Def: 4040 / Enh: 3402 / Healer: 4000


Next patch will read:


"All Jedi with either of the following templates:


MLS / Def: 4040 / Enh: 3402 / Healer: 4000 - or - MLS / Def: 4440 / Enh: 3002 / Healer: 4000


.... have successfully been removed of all Jedi capabilities."





I think you are right on the money with that first temp, seeing as how x4xx Defender is broke too . . .





While that is a nice well rounded template of skills, the lose of Force Pool is his weakness. In J v J, the double master will win.




Not necessarily. The one with the combination of the most defenses, and best saber almost always wins J-V-J.As an experienced dueler as a MLS/MENH/H:4040 template and a saber with stats of: 601-700, 1.24 m.speed, 663.1 M.DPS, I can honestly say that I can beat like-templated Jedi easily, even Master Defenders easily, but it's the ones with the best saber that kill me most often. There's one guy that has the aforementioned MLS/Def:4040 /Enh: 3402/H:4000 template, with a saber with like 760'ish M.DPS on my server that I feel like I can't even get a hit into before I'm dead. He has more defenses, and a great saber - thus, he wins.






" DO, OR DO NOT. THERE IS NO 'TRY'. "

___________________________________________________
REMNANTS OF THE JEDI
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Dvol
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:53 pm
#24



Whens the last time u came upon anyone 1v1...its rare at least on Lowca..its either 5 v 15 or vise versa...and most of the MLS Def 4040 ect temps live alot longer in Group pvp than the ones with double mastery..not allways but most of the time.and saebr max min plays a huge part in it as well...actually it plays 90% of that roll....let me make my saber up the loot system its old and tired..


cant say i see a hopefull future for jedi....Remove me From the GCW and make the rest want to Join in my War.....Not me into theirs..fix it somehow..jedi is all i have left in this game..and slowly but surely im losing hope....



Message Edited by Dvol on 10-12-2005 02:55 PM god i cant spell lol edited for spellin

Message Edited by Dvol on 10-12-2005 03:01 PM



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