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Thread: Master Enhancer Destroyed?

Tanilith
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:48 pm
#1

Not having been a Beta tester, I can't say for sure, but from what I've read with reguards to FR3 and the de-buffing action it looks like Master Enhancer has been eleminated as a viable Master for a Jedi to have.


Situation :


Jedi ME activates FR3 at 700 force cost

Player 2 applies movement de-buff, cancles out the Master Enhancers movement speed

Jedi ME now moves very slowly WITH 95% damage reduction still on . . .


Well that sucks . . .



Tanilith Wing'Dvan

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WookieOgre
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:49 pm
#2






Tanilith wrote:

Not having been a Beta tester, I can't say for sure, but from what I've read with reguards to FR3 and the de-buffing action it looks like Master Enhancer has been eleminated as a viable Master for a Jedi to have.


Situation :


Jedi ME activates FR3 at 700 force cost

Player 2 applies movement de-buff, cancles out the Master Enhancers movement speed

Jedi ME now moves very slowly WITH 95% damage reduction still on . . .


Well that sucks . . .





Well the devs will counter and say you still have stasis.........for now that is.
Sorotia
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:51 pm
#3

and you can rez yourself after a bh kills you!!!
Brakor
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:53 pm
#4



Tanilith wrote:
Not having been a Beta tester, I can't say for sure, but from what I've read with reguards to FR3 and the de-buffing action it looks like Master Enhancer has been eleminated as a viable Master for a Jedi to have.
Situation :
Jedi ME activates FR3 at 700 force cost
Player 2 applies movement de-buff, cancles out the Master Enhancers movement speed
Jedi ME now moves very slowly WITH 95% damage reduction still on . . .
Well that sucks . . .





I seriously doubt that anyone took master enhancer just for FR3, also no where has it stated that the 95% damage reduction will or won't be affected by the snare. Saying that the whole enhancer tree is broken because one ability changed is insane.





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Brakor
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:55 pm
#5



Sorotia wrote:
and you can rez yourself after a bh kills you!!!





enhancers can't rez





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Steve199
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:56 pm
#6

regain conc. is self rez




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WookieOgre
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:57 pm
#7






Brakor wrote:





Sorotia wrote:
and you can rez yourself after a bh kills you!!!







enhancers can't rez




Ok, they can revive themselves after death......at a cost of force regen.
JediForceSeeker
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:57 pm
#8






Brakor wrote:





Sorotia wrote:
and you can rez yourself after a bh kills you!!!







enhancers can't rez




Yes, They Rez themselves with Regain Consciousness




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SpunkyKuma
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:57 pm
#9

What the freak??? Did they increase the force cost for FR3? Since if I remember it's 480 force to activate, and I think to the sound of the upcoming changes that stasis will be MUCH more desirable which will lead to whines specifically about that skill which will lead to devs thinking up another retarded idea to nerf it.



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Court-Jester
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:58 pm
#10






Brakor wrote:





Sorotia wrote:
and you can rez yourself after a bh kills you!!!







enhancers can't rez





HOLY CRAP!!!


THEY NERFED THAT TOO?!?!?


(they have a self res...and no it hasn't been removed)



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Tanilith
Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:59 pm
#11

Movement Speed De-buffs can be applied as fast as they come off. Stasis can not.


This is a very 'weak' counter for a character as . . developed as Jedi are.



This needs to be re-thought seeing as how Master Enhancers give up ALOT for the little power of FR3 and Stasis. Regain is just stupid.


I'm saying that the Devs have completely killed the Master block of this profession if this goes through to live. Enhancers will now be the'sitting ducks waiting for a debuff' profession.





Tanilith Wing'Dvan

Master Saber / Master Enhancer / 4040 Healer

Light Jedi Knight - Strength Through Honor



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trajen2
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:05 pm
#12






Tanilith wrote:

Movement Speed De-buffs can be applied as fast as they come off. Stasis can not.


This is a very 'weak' counter for a character as . . developed as Jedi are.



This needs to be re-thought seeing as how Master Enhancers give up ALOT for the little power of FR3 and Stasis. Regain is just stupid.


I'm saying that the Devs have completely killed the Master block of this profession if this goes through to live. Enhancers will now be the'sitting ducks waiting for a debuff' profession.







if FR3 is the only thing you got ME for, then you're playing the wrong temp. . .


If i get snared with FR3 ,then i will jsut turn it off. If the snare changes go through, i simply will not use FR at all during a fight b/c the activation cost is too high.


If the BH doesnt open with paralyze, i will open with Forcewave...that way the BH is at the same speed as me. If his heals have an increased action cost thenI will probably win.


ME is still one of hte most viable templates in the jedi prof





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iacou
Wed Oct 12, 2005 2:20 pm
#13






Tanilith wrote:

I'm saying that the Devs have completely killed the Master block of this profession if this goes through to live. Enhancers will now be the'sitting ducks waiting for a debuff' profession.








Welcome to Master Defender. AI is and has been worthless for awhile now. Total Heal is laughable due to force cost for Master Healers. Whats next, take away mods and Dervish at MLS?











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