Jedi Archive
Thread: BETA TESTERS that made a JEDI and tried temps
Cojonelso wrote:
OK.... so did anyone try anything....other then Master defender ..... ????
LOL
Message Edited by Cojonelso on 10-12-2005 05:59 AM
No they are too damn busy dueling on the blue frogs and doing the Knight Trials!?! What did you think, they woudl actually TEST the Beta?
((nothing against you Cojonelso 
))
Oblox wrote:
VaainEldritch wrote:
chembelec wrote:
Mistwaver wrote:
If you call 235 base melee defense (no bonus from FS branches or bio clothes, just strictly from the Defender dicipline), and 52.5% base damage mitigation pointless, then so be it, but Defenders are still what the dicipline is named: Defenders. They can still protect their group by staying conscious, and that's al lthat matters.
heres a little secret for ya, 0400 enhancer and novice defender is the same initiate armor as defender, get aura and thats all the melee defence you can could need or get aura and the melee defence line and your better than a master defenders defence.
with the new nerf master defender is pretty usless and pointless.
Have you tried high-end PvE or PvP with FA2 ass your main mitigator (as you suggest with FA2 + Novice Defender)...? You'll be out of Force very quickly while a Master Defender will still be plugging away with 75% Force left.
FA2 is great for emergencies, but I'd rather not depend on it for protracted bouts of PvP or PvE.
I use fa2 all the time for krayting and other high end PVE.
Works fine.
Interesting. Perhaps I should have been more specific - I find that with the template MLS/Def4040/Eh3402/Heal4000 when in a high level bunker, I find that I have more Force problems than with a MDef variant.
KRAKEN666 wrote:
you really dont get noticable defensive skills till you start using BE clothes.
???
VaainEldritch wrote:
Oblox wrote:
VaainEldritch wrote:
chembelec wrote:
Mistwaver wrote:
If you call 235 base melee defense (no bonus from FS branches or bio clothes, just strictly from the Defender dicipline), and 52.5% base damage mitigation pointless, then so be it, but Defenders are still what the dicipline is named: Defenders. They can still protect their group by staying conscious, and that's al lthat matters.
heres a little secret for ya, 0400 enhancer and novice defender is the same initiate armor as defender, get aura and thats all the melee defence you can could need or get aura and the melee defence line and your better than a master defenders defence.
with the new nerf master defender is pretty usless and pointless.
Have you tried high-end PvE or PvP with FA2 ass your main mitigator (as you suggest with FA2 + Novice Defender)...? You'll be out of Force very quickly while a Master Defender will still be plugging away with 75% Force left.
FA2 is great for emergencies, but I'd rather not depend on it for protracted bouts of PvP or PvE.
I use fa2 all the time for krayting and other high end PVE.
Works fine.
Interesting. Perhaps I should have been more specific - I find that with the template MLS/Def4040/Eh3402/Heal4000 when in a high level bunker, I find that I have more Force problems than with a MDef variant.
heheh most people think that tanking a picket lair or taking a dragon (which can be soloed without getting hit)is high level pve lol
dont bother explaining it to them they never get it
Physkoris wrote:
Here's a little tip to anyone. If you like winning in PvE combat or PvP combat then do not pick up Master Powers, Master Enhancer, Healer 4040. Worst template ever for high end mobs like Krayt Dragons, and PvP'ing. Although.. If you like griefing in PvP, this is your template. Stasis, root and cloak are great griefing tools as tested on a friend.
Fuuny..this is exactly the same templatte peopek told me TO get! ..lol..
I tried this template:
Master Powers/ LS x4xx / Enhancer 34x3 / Healer 4xxx / Novice Defender
OMG it sucked bad. PvE was horrid, my action burned so fast it wasn't funny. I seriously have respect for any Master Powers template that can survive on their own without saber skills......my action went to zero within 10 seconds (102 AC saber)and the level 67 mob was even at half damage.Maybe I should have used choke instead of the gimped lightning attacks rofl.
IMO nothing compares to a Master Defender template in PvE. Now PvP that is debatable and all depends on your saber. You can dabble in Defender if you have a great saber or even just use FA+Aura....but in PvE after the changes I've seen to A.I., sorry you won't last.
chembelec wrote:
Mistwaver wrote:
If you call 235 base melee defense (no bonus from FS branches or bio clothes, just strictly from the Defender dicipline), and 52.5% base damage mitigation pointless, then so be it, but Defenders are still what the dicipline is named: Defenders. They can still protect their group by staying conscious, and that's al lthat matters.
heres a little secret for ya, 0400 enhancer and novice defender is the same initiate armor as defender, get aura and thats all the melee defence you can could need or get aura and the melee defence line and your better than a master defenders defence.
with the new nerf master defender is pretty usless and pointless.
these people whining about mdef being pointless are the same people who said "ill drop MLS cause you dont need it and it's POINTLESS"
I have the same temp. and I can solo high level mobs. Yes, the force drain is higher, but you can still get by. + you get the other skills like... 1500 heals with advance healing, fr1, speed... Much better in my option than the typical MLS, MD setup. Who else agrees?
VaainEldritch wrote:
Oblox wrote:
VaainEldritch wrote:
chembelec wrote:
Mistwaver wrote:
If you call 235 base melee defense (no bonus from FS branches or bio clothes, just strictly from the Defender dicipline), and 52.5% base damage mitigation pointless, then so be it, but Defenders are still what the dicipline is named: Defenders. They can still protect their group by staying conscious, and that's al lthat matters.
heres a little secret for ya, 0400 enhancer and novice defender is the same initiate armor as defender, get aura and thats all the melee defence you can could need or get aura and the melee defence line and your better than a master defenders defence.
with the new nerf master defender is pretty usless and pointless.
Have you tried high-end PvE or PvP with FA2 ass your main mitigator (as you suggest with FA2 + Novice Defender)...? You'll be out of Force very quickly while a Master Defender will still be plugging away with 75% Force left.
FA2 is great for emergencies, but I'd rather not depend on it for protracted bouts of PvP or PvE.
I use fa2 all the time for krayting and other high end PVE.
Works fine.
Interesting. Perhaps I should have been more specific - I find that with the template MLS/Def4040/Eh3402/Heal4000 when in a high level bunker, I find that I have more Force problems than with a MDef variant.