Jedi Archive
Thread: Best Templet(s) for Force Rank
It doesnt matter what template you have, all you need is more Jedi on your side than your oppenent.
SMOB wrote:I am a jedi and a bounty hunter. I am good at both. Enhancer celerity tree (en 4xxx) for any jedi isa must up to force speed 2. No Force Run = I kill you with my bounty hunter if you stay and fight. With Force Run 2 you have a chance to run away if you can not over power me (and wave -snare- will not help you). Yes, I have combat medic skills, and no I do not use any DOT (near 900dps with PUP -ranged). Also, if you go up against a jedi with force speed 2...well, if you are both good pvp u will most likely lose.I agree with that you should play the templet. That is a must, whatever templet you have. And I agree that you should have the templet that YOU enjoy. After all, it is a game! That said, if you are like me, and your goal is Force Rank and you want to go as high as possible -and asssuming all sabers by then will more or less be of similar dps for the jedi in FR. MLS / MDF / En 3xxx / Hl2xxx. I am today MLS / MDF / EN4xxx / HL1xxx. Many draw backs, as I was EN4xx4 before. The reason for HL1xxx is to counter mcm DOT. WIth infusion and basic heals you take away mbh/mcm DOT. I have been pawned by jedi without MDF, I must say, MDF is NOT a must. I have been pawned by jedi without MLS either -though I still feel MLS is a must. They simply out played me and they play the templet they have very well. If Force Rank is ganed by PvP, and the only place we can expect to get PvP in good numbers is during big fights, the way you defendis going to paly a very big role.MLS/EN44xx/HL2xxx/DF434x. From here is the base of a true dabler templet. This one is an extrem DEF templet. MLS/EN44xx/HL4xxx/DF414x This is the other side of the dabler templet. This is NOT an easy templet to play at all. However it is great fun and very strong against all templets -you need many hours of play time to handle this templet. If you go up against a mls/mdf you do not stand and go toe to toe unless he dosnt have healing -all he needs to do is AB (Armor Break) on you and Force Armor is almost gone. The dabler templet is great for Force Rank as it gives a great chance for defeating any templet in big pvp or 1on1 -I must add that you do need a good saber, my bh would have a field day with your force if you can not over power within a few minutes.As you can see by now, I feel that Force Run and Force Speed are a MUST hands down. I can not say healing is a must because I know a few players that are very skilled PvP with STIMS only (Jedi). But for the other 99% get healing at HL2xxx as a must. Infusion is for mcm only and at basic it is enough. Last, learn to use STIMS/Ruby. Even if you have healing. STIMS, if used right, will not cost a combat round and will not drain mind like Force Healing. When you cant take any more Ruby, use your Force Heals. In BIG PvP, if you are going down, you ARE going down. Healing or not. Last note as I am MDF and I am one of the few that actually and truely enjoys the boaring MDF templet: We are the Jedi Marines, send us in first and you all follow...The few, the brave...lolKhiertogak AtuceXs - Alliance Colonel
If you think DPS matters your just another noob.
i think the most popular templates will probably be these
MLS/4440defender/3002enhancer/4000heal
MLS/4040defender/3402enhancer/4000heal
0404ls/mdef/4020heal/3004 enhancer
MLS/Mdef/3000heal/0002 enhancer
Ceasar
RoundWallKing wrote:
SMOB wrote:
I am a jedi and a bounty hunter. I am good at both. Enhancer celerity tree (en 4xxx) for any jedi isa must up to force speed 2. No Force Run = I kill you with my bounty hunter if you stay and fight. With Force Run 2 you have a chance to run away if you can not over power me (and wave -snare- will not help you). Yes, I have combat medic skills, and no I do not use any DOT (near 900dps with PUP -ranged). Also, if you go up against a jedi with force speed 2...well, if you are both good pvp u will most likely lose.
I agree with that you should play the templet. That is a must, whatever templet you have. And I agree that you should have the templet that YOU enjoy. After all, it is a game! That said, if you are like me, and your goal is Force Rank and you want to go as high as possible -and asssuming all sabers by then will more or less be of similar dps for the jedi in FR. MLS / MDF / En 3xxx / Hl2xxx. I am today MLS / MDF / EN4xxx / HL1xxx. Many draw backs, as I was EN4xx4 before. The reason for HL1xxx is to counter mcm DOT. WIth infusion and basic heals you take away mbh/mcm DOT. I have been pawned by jedi without MDF, I must say, MDF is NOT a must. I have been pawned by jedi without MLS either -though I still feel MLS is a must. They simply out played me and they play the templet they have very well. If Force Rank is ganed by PvP, and the only place we can expect to get PvP in good numbers is during big fights, the way you defendis going to paly a very big role.
MLS/EN44xx/HL2xxx/DF434x. From here is the base of a true dabler templet. This one is an extrem DEF templet. MLS/EN44xx/HL4xxx/DF414x This is the other side of the dabler templet. This is NOT an easy templet to play at all. However it is great fun and very strong against all templets -you need many hours of play time to handle this templet. If you go up against a mls/mdf you do not stand and go toe to toe unless he dosnt have healing -all he needs to do is AB (Armor Break) on you and Force Armor is almost gone. The dabler templet is great for Force Rank as it gives a great chance for defeating any templet in big pvp or 1on1 -I must add that you do need a good saber, my bh would have a field day with your force if you can not over power within a few minutes.
As you can see by now, I feel that Force Run and Force Speed are a MUST hands down. I can not say healing is a must because I know a few players that are very skilled PvP with STIMS only (Jedi). But for the other 99% get healing at HL2xxx as a must. Infusion is for mcm only and at basic it is enough. Last, learn to use STIMS/Ruby. Even if you have healing. STIMS, if used right, will not cost a combat round and will not drain mind like Force Healing. When you cant take any more Ruby, use your Force Heals. In BIG PvP, if you are going down, you ARE going down. Healing or not. Last note as I am MDF and I am one of the few that actually and truely enjoys the boaring MDF templet: We are the Jedi Marines, send us in first and you all follow...The few, the brave...lol
Khiertogak Atuc
eXs - Alliance Colonel
If you think DPS matters your just another noob.
the only thing i got from his post was..
"look at me i am good, hey look at me i think i am god in this game.. my FOTM bh will pwn your jedi.. My FOTM jedi will pwn your bh and jedi"
great, next time you want to talk about something try not to pat yourself on the back so much..
i do very well with my non-cm BH and my non-LS jedi.. force ranking is going to reward powers for dark jedi and enhancer for light jedi pretty much like the old system..
I would like to thank all of you for the discussion. I must say, I was hoping for more of a discussion regarding Force Rank Templets. We all agree that the best templet is when one plays the templet and thata singletemplet for all is not possbl.
I would like your views on GROUP PvP. Any one with DEF444x to DEF xx4x will tell you that in big PvP NEVER get more than 1 attacker on you. MDF can take on more than 1 attacker and can use AI in groups to hold off attackes for 30sec to 1.5 or even 2 min. I do not want to get into MDF strategy in big group PvP as I am among the few whom enjoy MDF and I know few others do. Because that very reason, I am asking non-MDF for input on big PvP strategy for the templets they like the most.
Again, thank you for your time and input.
Try MLS Defender 4040 Healer 3000 Enhancer 2404. This is my template and it very fun to play. Ive got Supression and Force Wave for BH fights so most BH's go down quick cause they usually give up kiting after the 1st Root. And for JvJ PvP I will have Force Feedback Absorb and Shield. Not a bad all-round template.
lilceaser wrote:
i think the most popular templates will probably be these
MLS/4440defender/3002enhancer/4000heal
MLS/4040defender/3402enhancer/4000heal
0404ls/mdef/4020heal/3004 enhancer
MLS/Mdef/3000heal/0002 enhancer
Ceasar
MissMir wrote:
its all about knowing how to use your template effectivly, not one specific template is THE best for everyone
i wont second that, iam sorry to say, but there are only a few templates viable to play at all. If SOE could achive a real balance between that 5 disciplines (which i doubt they will, all that needs to be rethought) i would say that the best wins the fight. As long that doesnt happen there are certain templates which 'gives' you the tools to success in most cases.
- Look at the common MCM/MBH template. No other MBH template reaches nearly that effectiveness, no other template will achive a fight record like the best BH's got with that template for example.
SMOB wrote:
No Force Run = I kill you with my bounty hunter if you stay and fight.
Message Edited by sememon on 09-05-2005 11:44 PM