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Thread: 14 day trial account can cause a long term paying customer to quit...
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darkstar76
Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:57 am
#14
n5ygy
Are you kidden me , i have taken out lots of tkm and melee stackers , it is all in the def tree, it can be done
DarthINSANUS
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:20 am
#15
darkstar76 wrote:
n5ygyAre you kidden me , i have taken out lots of tkm and melee stackers , it is all in the def tree, it can be done
There is a differnce between people you "think" are stakers.
And those that REALLY are.
A defense stacker has + 110 or BETTER to every State D (BEFORE there plates/tapes)
They carry weapons (Like Acklay PH that do 800+ damage)
And Mind/health fire pikes (Most can stack thoe or at LEAST land a 400 fire dot on you)
THOSE are the TRUE defense stackers..and theres TONS of them on most of the big servers
(Eclipse has about 90 people like this I can name of my head ...if they even still play...)
The FOTM Jedi ..Master LS/Master Healer 4xx4 Enhance fars the BEST against these templates, due to the healing abilitiy, and the cure fire.
Depending on the stackers weapon, it may get the healer into an endless loop of healing (4 sec delay with a 800 dmg hammer swinging at you every second doesnt cut it)Forcing the jedi to Run (Like we all do) or DIE.
Master Defense has even LESS chance of going against a stacker...with a state defense of +65
ANYONE who KNOWS what there doing can FORCE you to run or DIE.
(This template does do well agains SINGLE melle masteries...and stackers that are CLUELESS as to how to PVP.
Quit pretending like ANY Jedi is remotely on par with stacker templates...
Throw 2 on you , and youll be LUCKY to be able to run away.
(Name a time/place a Jedi gets one on one fights constantly )
to the original poster :
While I highly doubt, soemone would persue the endeavor of grinding BH inv 3 and hunting Jedi just to grief on a 14 day trial account...
The point that ANYONE can pickiup a jedi killer tempate in a small amount of time/no effort and can maul anyone whos LOYAL to this game and has dedicated MONTHS of work if not more into something is well taken...
Ash057
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:46 am
#16
new Padawans DO have a alt to play. The alt character is open on the same server you unlocked after you complete the padawan trials.
Malonesa
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:50 am
#17
DarthINSANUS wrote:
darkstar76 wrote:
n5ygyAre you kidden me , i have taken out lots of tkm and melee stackers , it is all in the def tree, it can be done
There is a differnce between people you "think" are stakers.
And those that REALLY are.
A defense stacker has + 110 or BETTER to every State D (BEFORE there plates/tapes)
They carry weapons (Like Acklay PH that do 800+ damage)
And Mind/health fire pikes (Most can stack thoe or at LEAST land a 400 fire dot on you)
THOSE are the TRUE defense stackers..and theres TONS of them on most of the big servers
(Eclipse has about 90 people like this I can name of my head ...if they even still play...)
The FOTM Jedi ..Master LS/Master Healer 4xx4 Enhance fars the BEST against these templates, due to the healing abilitiy, and the cure fire.
Depending on the stackers weapon, it may get the healer into an endless loop of healing (4 sec delay with a 800 dmg hammer swinging at you every second doesnt cut it)Forcing the jedi to Run (Like we all do) or DIE.
Master Defense has even LESS chance of going against a stacker...with a state defense of +65
ANYONE who KNOWS what there doing can FORCE you to run or DIE.
(This template does do well agains SINGLE melle masteries...and stackers that are CLUELESS as to how to PVP.
Quit pretending like ANY Jedi is remotely on par with stacker templates...
Throw 2 on you , and youll be LUCKY to be able to run away.
(Name a time/place a Jedi gets one on one fights constantly )
to the original poster :
While I highly doubt, soemone would persue the endeavor of grinding BH inv 3 and hunting Jedi just to grief on a 14 day trial account...
The point that ANYONE can pickiup a jedi killer tempate in a small amount of time/no effort and can maul anyone whos LOYAL to this game and has dedicated MONTHS of work if not more into something is well taken...
Very well put.
Hattum
Fri Sep 24, 2004 8:57 am
#18
n5ygy wrote:
Vissix wrote:
PuntaSur wrote:
This is why player bounties should be moved to MBH. It also cuts down on the melee stacked BH templates, and there are very few people who could reach MBH in 14 day trial accounts.
Additionally, the Jedi visibility and missions should clear off the terminals AND the same BH should be restricted from obtaining the same Jedi he has killed for a certain period of time (3 days to coincide with the limited payout timer would make sense to stop Jedi friends of BH from using that BH to clear a mission).
Finally, there needs to be a limitation on the group TEF advantage as well as TEF, visibility and mission clearing if the Jedi is killed by anyone in the BH's group.
This is another thing that boggles my mind. A lot of people complain that they don't want Jedi to be turned into a normal profession. Most of them don't realize they are the cause of it. People ask the devs to make things easier and easier, and it just won't stop until it inevitably turns into a normal profession.
Jedi are already 'toned down' to a normal prof. Actually, they are weaker than a TKM, even at knight level.
I disagree, I'm a padawan with a completed template and I've never lost a duel to a melee, and the in the closest one the only state I could apply was intimidate while he had all on me. Jedi is strong if you know how to play the game, and it's not that difficult.
BrokenArrow11
Fri Oct 01, 2004 11:42 pm
#19
The only state he had on was intim, you fought a noob then. Even with Master Defender you can get states put on you.
FSCSexplorer
Sat Oct 02, 2004 2:07 am
#20
Malonesa wrote:
DarthINSANUS wrote:
darkstar76 wrote:
n5ygy
Are you kidden me , i have taken out lots of tkm and melee stackers , it is all in the def tree, it can be done
There is a differnce between people you "think" are stakers.
And those that REALLY are.
A defense stacker has + 110 or BETTER to every State D (BEFORE there plates/tapes)
They carry weapons (Like Acklay PH that do 800+ damage)
And Mind/health fire pikes (Most can stack thoe or at LEAST land a 400 fire dot on you)
THOSE are the TRUE defense stackers..and theres TONS of them on most of the big servers
(Eclipse has about 90 people like this I can name of my head ...if they even still play...)
The FOTM Jedi ..Master LS/Master Healer 4xx4 Enhance fars the BEST against these templates, due to the healing abilitiy, and the cure fire.
Depending on the stackers weapon, it may get the healer into an endless loop of healing (4 sec delay with a 800 dmg hammer swinging at you every second doesnt cut it)Forcing the jedi to Run (Like we all do) or DIE.
Master Defense has even LESS chance of going against a stacker...with a state defense of +65
ANYONE who KNOWS what there doing can FORCE you to run or DIE.
(This template does do well agains SINGLE melle masteries...and stackers that are CLUELESS as to how to PVP.
Quit pretending like ANY Jedi is remotely on par with stacker templates...
Throw 2 on you , and youll be LUCKY to be able to run away.
(Name a time/place a Jedi gets one on one fights constantly )
to the original poster :
While I highly doubt, soemone would persue the endeavor of grinding BH inv 3 and hunting Jedi just to grief on a 14 day trial account...
The point that ANYONE can pickiup a jedi killer tempate in a small amount of time/no effort and can maul anyone whos LOYAL to this game and has dedicated MONTHS of work if not more into something is well taken...
Very well put.
/disagree
MLS/MD/4004 H
Fights off anything better than other skill sets.
While you might be able to drop 90 names off the top of your head your experience with those kind of opponents aren't every time.
There's few that come after me that know what they're doing. Maybe it's the server.
BH's don't kill me, groups kill me, and not that often.
If a group couldn't kill me then I really wouldn't want to play a Jedi.
Again though............
If you are getting hunted and you solo play your Jedi, then why not group with others?
As some little dude said, "Let go of your fears............................. 
Joukahainen
Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:32 pm
#21
Last I checked SOE was no longer offering trial accounts. It was for a limited period. I may be wrong though.
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