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Thread: Just the facts: Conversion from old to new. Important info please read
izzysplace wrote:
One thing to add here you do not need to keep those Base Jedi skills once you reach knight I have tested this on TC2 and surrendered those weak ass skills in favor of more Skill points and further training in force powers
Quote from the Jedi Archieve III
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Will I have to retain my Force Sensitive skills after I purchase Force Discipline skills?
Yes. As other professions have requirements so do the Force Discipline skills. A player must purchase 6 full lines (24 skill boxes) of Force Sensitive skills to qualify to purchase Force Disciplines.
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You where able to do this on TC2 but that is a bug. You will not be able to when it goes live - or at least you shouldn't be able to.
BeerMe21 wrote:
Yeh man the FS boxes should be free for those that go on to jedi, maybe make them cost points for reg chars but really they don't give a huge bonus to jedi from what I can see they are just a waste points. The only ones I see beign usefull to a jedi are the melee def adn ranged def and the speed ones for melee. Just a SP waste, IMHO.
open your mind pls
lets see melee accuracy would be nice for any sabre users esp with your opponents having def's now
oh and 2 more experimentation pts on your sabre
also jedi luck might be nice to see if it helps loot better/more often decent stuff
and +5 terrain neg could help those non master enhancers a little bit
ooooooo and for non enhancers again force vehicular speed to out run anyone that doesn't have it
think man
Morwen wrote:
Somewhat less than idle note: No one's seen the extra two points, yet. No idea whether this is working as intended, or bugged. It might be like bestine port that will aid your experimentation roll without actually adding any more points.
Shung wrote:
oh and 2 more experimentation pts on your sabre
i got to experiment on my saber with a weapon and droid kit, the extra two points did NOT work
(Quoted from Moge_Tira_Tru)
gleaning from a few threads these are the facts on the current conversion system for your Jedi into the New system. Fact 1: TH said it would be a 1-to-1 system. Each current box will equal 1 new system box. Fact 2: there are 52 (not counting Initiate or Master Jedi) boxes in the old system and only 24 in the new system (to reach Knight). Fact 3: to be a Padawan in the new system you must have and keep 6 lines (24 boxes @ 1 skill point) of FS skills. 2 case studies: 2 people have documented their conversions from TC jedi to the current publish. These are TC jedi's not TC2. Case 1: was Padawan in old system 17 boxes. On his conversion he got to choose 11 boxes plus 6 lines in the FS tree. 11+6=17 Case 2: was a 2-2-2-2 Initiate in old system. On his conversion he got to choose 2 boxes plus 6 lines FS tree. 2+6=8 so you can see that in an odd way it is infact a 1-to-1 system. Granted no documented cases of Guardians are currently listed and the Math does not carry once you get to that level but this is how it plays out with these two cases. We need more info from Higher up Jedi to complete this but for now most of us are initiates so this is very important info.
Perhaps my math is off just a smidge but I was under the impression that 6 LINES would equal 24 points, not the 6 you had mentioned. (6 lines of 4 boxes each = 24 points). That being the case, I'm not following the "1 -to- 1 system".
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(Quoted from Moge_Tira_Tru)
gleaning from a few threads these are the facts on the current conversion system for your Jedi into the New system.
Fact 1: TH said it would be a 1-to-1 system. Each current box will equal 1 new system box.
Fact 2: there are 52 (not counting Initiate or Master Jedi) boxes in the old system and only 24 in the new system (to reach Knight).
Fact 3: to be a Padawan in the new system you must have and keep 6 lines (24 boxes @ 1 skill point) of FS skills. 2 case studies: 2 people have documented their conversions from TC jedi to the current publish. These are TC jedi's not TC2.
Case 1: was Padawan in old system 17 boxes. On his conversion he got to choose 11 boxes plus 6 lines in the FS tree. 11+6=17
Case 2: was a 2-2-2-2 Initiate in old system. On his conversion he got to choose 2 boxes plus 6 lines FS tree. 2+6=8 so you can see that in an odd way it is infact a 1-to-1 system. Granted no documented cases of Guardians are currently listed and the Math does not carry once you get to that level but this is how it plays out with these two cases. We need more info from Higher up Jedi to complete this but for now most of us are initiates so this is very important info.
Perhaps my math is off just a smidge but I was under the impression that 6 LINES would equal 24 points, not the 6 you had mentioned.
(6 lines of 4 boxes each = 24 points). That being the case, I'm not following the "1 -to- 1 system".
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From Moge_Tira_True?
Fact 2: there are 52 (not counting Initiate or Master Jedi) boxes in the old system and only 24 in the new system (to reach Knight).
Eh, no. There's more than 24 boxes to reach Knight. You have to spend all 250 points on force skills for knight, which evenly resolves to 2 masteries, one tree half full.
That's 18+18+9. 45 boxes. Not sure where you're getting 24 from, there are 24 1 skill point force sensitive boxes that need to be gotten (and held) but those are for Padawan, not Knight itself (except as a prerequisite). In the skill exchange, these are apparently being treated as one line per 'box' converted (so you lose one box costing far too much xp, and get four boxes of related FS boxes that would've cost vastly less generally).
Message Edited by Glzmo on 05-30-2004 06:09 AM