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Thread: Jedi in SWG

Ternque01
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:31 pm
#14

What do you find simple and flat about it? Please go into your analyzation.



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delanstarrunner
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:33 pm
#15






Ternque01 wrote:

What do you find simple and flat about it? Please go into your analyzation.





Your argument in general. Analyzation, eh??

Message Edited by delanstarrunner on 08-30-2005 06:34 PM



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Ternque01
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:35 pm
#16

Perhaps you didn't understand that the last sentece I make equates the interest in the Jedi class perceived by this game's producers is little more than misunderstanding the crowd/mob mentality of placing a piece of gold in the middle of a room mechanic that their original implementation of Jedi was.


Everyone scurries around to pick it up, kicking, biting, fighting, and killing eachother to get it.


In the end, you only get a room full of injured people and someone with a small piece of gold. THAT does not sound like a fun situation to be in =/





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The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
Ternque01
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:36 pm
#17






delanstarrunner wrote:






Ternque01 wrote:

What do you find simple and flat about it? Please go into your analyzation.





Your argument in general. Analyzation, eh??

Message Edited by delanstarrunner on 08-30-2005 06:34 PM




Go into what you mean. You have only said "simple" and "flat". Lay it all out.



Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
delanstarrunner
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:38 pm
#18




Ternque01 wrote:





delanstarrunner wrote:






Ternque01 wrote:

What do you find simple and flat about it? Please go into your analyzation.





Your argument in general. Analyzation, eh??

Message Edited by delanstarrunner on 08-30-2005 06:34 PM




Go into what you mean. You have only said "simple" and "flat". Lay it all out.





That should suffice.



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Ternque01
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:49 pm
#19






Willvas wrote:

I love it when a total moron thinks this game is all about jedi... first off... what "JEDI CONTENT" there is none... i guess if you truly had one you would know there is none...


secondly this game has always been in trouble with content... lets take a look at how many bugs SWG has had for over year... heck lets take a look at some bugs that have been in game for over 2 years and have not been fixed...


this has been SWG's problem... JEDI is just a profession now... they are not even 1.5 times stronger anymore... any fool who says they are doesnt know his own butthole from the slime he crawled out under.... You will find that a well outfitted and a well food dependant... cm/doc healing templated rifleman can beat a jedi with ease....


devs have made sure that jedi can do so well in balance against normal profession... that it has made them too weak... they have been their own demons... it has made me seriously not even want to play this game anymore... all that hard work i did pre pub 9 to get my jedi leveled... all for what? to be a normal profession?


You my friend(to the original poster) need to seriously get your head examined... there is no way that jedi is all this game has.... its the only thing that kept this game going... without jedi this game would of died a long time ago... jedi is the icon of STAR WARS....


there is absolutely no content or enough to keep anybody around long enough... jedi just filled that time void SOE needed to dish out another expansion...









The Jedi profession has received two full publishes and will receive a second FRS system soon. Any issue, and I mean any, resulting in discomfort to Jedi players has been addressed in record time. The BH/Jedi system has receive a HUGE brunt of development time, specifically aimed at ensuring that Jedi never lost xp unjustfully. Mostly, the Jedi side of BH missions were addressed. Ask BH's who dealt with the login/logout exploit, Feign Death, droids NEVER working, no tracking on Kashyyyk. The list goes on and on. The old FRS system received a whole host of tweaks. Broken Jedi skills are fixed ASAP (even though you feel they are sometimes nerfed, they STILL WORK), and combat animations are regularly introduced. Talk to Commandos. One of their master-level weapons didn't even FIRE for months, haha. Moreover, the AoE damage they are supposed to deal has been bugged since the CU came out.


The village.... more content than ANY non-Jedi profession has tied to itself.


The devs take their time to work on non-Jedi issues, but get right on Jedi fixes and balances. Jedi profession bugs are quickly addressed. You might not agree, but go play a non-Jedi combat profession like ranger, smuggler, squad leader, or commando then give me an earful


This new expansion, which is being stressed as including non-Jedi content, will be highly Jedi oriented. One of the main selling points is the lava crystal.


You will have a functional FRS system soon, meanwhile smugglers still don't have ANYTHING to do.


I strongly believe that you have been slightly spoiled by your class. Sure, you have taken many recent nerfs, but you are still the golden child of this game, and you still ARE stronger than non-Jedi templates, regardless of your claims. Only the most skilled non-Jedi can dish out the hurt to a Jedi, while most mediocre Jedi can slaw out death to most non-Jedi.


In a sense, I believe that the GCW has been inhereted by Jedi to some extent.


Non-Jedi players don't get any of this stuff. Smugglers have been waiting for TWO YEARS to smuggle, yet you people around here act like you are being murdered waiting for your second FRS system *chuckle*



Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
Ternque01
Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:50 pm
#20






delanstarrunner wrote:




Ternque01 wrote:



delanstarrunner wrote:




Ternque01 wrote:
What do you find simple and flat about it? Please go into your analyzation.



Your argument in general. Analyzation, eh??

Message Edited by delanstarrunner on 08-30-2005 06:34 PM



Go into what you mean. You have only said "simple" and "flat". Lay it all out.



That should suffice.





No, it really doesn't. I'm STILL not getting it.



Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
rizzacathon
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:21 pm
#21


why are you wasting time arguing with jedi? it's like bashing your head against the wall.


the little children are never gonna have ennough and to hell with any class that tries to get an ounce of attention from the devs, just save your breath and do like so many of us. pick another mmo and jump ship when it comes out.


personelly i am waiting for ddo. then i will leave and never worry about the glow stick army ever again.


freak88
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:38 pm
#22

what jedi fixes are you talking about.?? jedi have only recieved 22 nerfs since the cu. truth is half of all jedi skills either dont work or have no purpose. one thing about jedi skills that is 100 pct accurate is that all jedi skills are way below regular profession skills.


mhealer can heal nothing, 4000 doc cant heal 1600 damage like lightning .


msaber damage on a great saber is 700, every other weapon in the game is 1k and up, we are lowest damage dealers in the game.


jedi heals are on a 6 second timer, and we only have one, docs have 4 on very fast timers, all healing way more then jedi, oh and jedi heal skills dont give defs like doc heal skills do, or any armor enhancements, and jedi cant even wear mabari belts. see whay all you get with doc? geez, 4 heals, quick timmers, defs, and armor enhancements, from a healing profession.


we also have to dael with cm s that are nowhere in star wars running around throwing poisons/disease paralyzing super droid healing and droid speed hacking, a non existent star wars profession
freak88
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:39 pm
#23

there is atleast 1 4 box tree in every jedi skill box that does nothing.
TheGreatFreyr
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:43 pm
#24

someone get beat up by a jedi? sry man it happens this thread is the same thing every week.....



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Ternque01
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:45 pm
#25






rizzacathon wrote:


why are you wasting time arguing with jedi? it's like bashing your head against the wall.


the little children are never gonna have ennough and to hell with any class that tries to get an ounce of attention from the devs, just save your breath and do like so many of us. pick another mmo and jump ship when it comes out.


personelly i am waiting for ddo. then i will leave and never worry about the glow stick army ever again.








LOL, good advice. I hit cancel ten days ago, and it FEEEEEEEELS GREAT!!!!


I just fly over SWG forums dropping crap in places I always felt like but never did, haha.





Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
RebelArchAngel
Tue Aug 30, 2005 6:46 pm
#26






Iawalein wrote:





Ternque01 wrote:

Everyone who thinks Jedi are fine in this timeline are just protecting their Jedi slot. I believe the essence of it truly does not extend beyond that. Jedi do exist in this timeline as supported by ep. III (Obi-wan and Yoda risking their lives to reconfigure the temple transmitter to warn away those jedi not already killed) and ep. IV ("the jedi are ALL BUT extinct..Their fire has gone out of the galaxy."). Why have Yoda and Obi-wan risk all to switch the transmitter and why wouldn't Obi-wan say "The jedi are extinct."? Jedi dueling in Theed in front of the starport? Ok that's not fitting the timeline. Perhaps a penalty of a certain as a blue glowy for each death from vis would help that...


Had they never put in the ability to become a Jedi in this MMO, a rage surrounding Jedi would have never existed. This rage was misperceived by the producers as genuine interest in the class then geared the game toward that direction. The rage wouldn't have existed if the jedi were never added, but the game hasn't been totally geared towards jedi as most would think. Jedi currently has a LOT of downsides and little more power/ability than the average template for the large amount of effort required to finish one.


If you EVER want to stir up a rage for something in a MMO, tell someone thatthere is a small chance that they can own a character that is 30 times more powerful than 99.999999% of the other players you are surounded by. (That is what they were a long time ago.) Yes, it will make most players in an MMO work toward the "Alpha class", but I doubt that jedi was ever 30 times as strong. I've heard pre-9 jedi state that they were maybe five times as strong though.


THAT is the interest in the Jedi class, and it extends little beyond that as well. Not actually. There are STILL a lot of people grinding to open a jedi even after all of the reductions in powers/abilities. It's not "Little beyond that" in interest. A lot of people who saw the original trilogy have wanted a chance to RP a jedi for a long time.














word... the jedi u dont c the the ones that RP.... cuz RPin is fun



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