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Thread: Jedi Defense Stacker?

huttu
Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:35 am
#14






VYRIS wrote:





huttu wrote:


1) Ranged people usually drop very fast for me, my LS is pretty good though. Valor is nice to have but saberblock is enough, you can always use steak & ranged defense bio clothes, the ranged def & block food (dono if they work though). Ranged is nothing to worry about IMO, never lost against a ranged person so far.

2) My force pool is 6115 (i dont use robe), I nearly never run out of force except in a 1 on 1 duel against master defenders with pre cu sabers and in pvp with more than 30 vs 30. If you buff up ur health would be +4000 so now & then using channel does the job for me, have a holo rdy too. My worst fear in pvp are melee stackers.







So that is a yes on MLS?


I have a pre-CU Polearm saber which is pretty decent. I ultimately am thinking about going 0404 saber, but I can't craft a comparable 2 hand post-CU saber that matches up with my pre-CU pole. So unless I can, I can either have a lesser 2 hand saber, or come up with some new Defense stacking around MLS.


My worst issue right now is losing mind on heals...also I hate that snare effect on AI now...it's like waiting to die slowly. I only used AI in mass pvp like you talked about, never on one on ones, but I have to heal so much in one on ones now, that I have to run AI, and then I am dead.







yea thats MLS


if you have a pre cu saber I would recommend going MLS, it all depends on playstyle, try stuff out with ur friends. I win many duels but against a master defender with pre cu (0 sac) saber I ALWAYS lose, if they have no pre cu saber i win so use it well Another friend of me is master defender ls 0404 and some other stuff, i saw how he beated a pre pub 9 menh mls with a perfect/0 sac (pre cu) saber


about ur mind, use stims & syntesteak when u can, helps a lot, notice if you sit down ur mind/action regens very fast, i usually try to sit down to regen my mind in pvp


if i would be you i would do mls + stacking


master defender= a bit less defense, more force, no force run & channel


i recommend my templ: MLS enhancer 3402 defender4040 healer 4000 my bro and me both have same template and we win vs groups to 6-7 people





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huttu
Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:43 am
#15






MajesticJester wrote:





huttu wrote:





MajesticJester wrote:



try it against 5-10 npcs and watch your force bar drop like a brick








my brother with exact same template tanked 5 lvl 82 piketlairs with no regen time, you dont have to use force armor all the time... syntesteak does wonders





whats pickets got to do with npcs? do they even have styles? ranged attacks?


im not talking about grinding lol








ummmm it has nothing to do if its creature or npc, only the number of dmge absorbed counts for force loss






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GaladanAZ
Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:44 am
#16


Huttu Wrote:





master defender + force armor is uselessm you will have like 3% less dmge, no big deal

i am myself enhancer 0400 defender 4040 and i got a better defense than master defenders (tested it)


dmge points taken: master defender = 475 dmge w/t enhancements


827 dmge when armorbreaked


455 dmge with aura


791 dmge with aura/armorbreak


now enhancer x4xx defender 4x4x= 429 dmge with force armor


818 dmge with force armor and armorbreaked


411 dmge with aura


782 dmge arorbreaked & with aura


was tested with a 700 dmge LS


some other numbers:


jedi innate armor dmge reduction


1000 = 10.5%

2000 = 20.0%

3000 = 28.5%

4000 = 36.0%

5000 = 42.5%

6000 = 48.0%

7000 = 52.5%

8000 = 56.0%

9000 = 58.5%

10000 = 60%






I am not calling you a liar, but this does not seem right the game must be broken.

master defense will have 85 more melee def and 28 more innate armor then def 4040 enh 0400 even with FA on, so there is no way

that m/def should take more dmg .


M/def has 255 melee defense and 70 innate armor

4040 def 0400 enh has 170 melee defense and 42 innate armor w/FA2.

So if I am missing something let me know.




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huttu
Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:49 am
#17






GaladanAZ wrote:


Huttu Wrote:





master defender + force armor is uselessm you will have like 3% less dmge, no big deal

i am myself enhancer 0400 defender 4040 and i got a better defense than master defenders (tested it)


dmge points taken: master defender = 475 dmge w/t enhancements


827 dmge when armorbreaked


455 dmge with aura


791 dmge with aura/armorbreak


now enhancer x4xx defender 4x4x= 429 dmge with force armor


818 dmge with force armor and armorbreaked


411 dmge with aura


782 dmge arorbreaked & with aura


was tested with a 700 dmge LS


some other numbers:


jedi innate armor dmge reduction


1000 = 10.5%

2000 = 20.0%

3000 = 28.5%

4000 = 36.0%

5000 = 42.5%

6000 = 48.0%

7000 = 52.5%

8000 = 56.0%

9000 = 58.5%

10000 = 60%






I am not calling you a liar, but this does not seem right the game must be broken.

master defense will have 85 more melee def and 28 more innate armor then def 4040 enh 0400 even with FA on, so there is no way

that m/def should take more dmg .


M/def has 255 melee defense and 70 innate armor

4040 def 0400 enh has 170 melee defense and 42 innate armor w/FA2.

So if I am missing something let me know.






yea i forgot to say defender is good for melee/ranged defense, that with aura & pikat u'll be hit a lot less


about the armor ur wrong


jedi innate armor=20


force armor=40


defender 4040=22


thats 8800





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VYRIS
Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:53 am
#18






huttu wrote:




yea thats MLS


if you have a pre cu saber I would recommend going MLS, it all depends on playstyle, try stuff out with ur friends. I win many duels but against a master defender with pre cu (0 sac) saber I ALWAYS lose, if they have no pre cu saber i win so use it well Another friend of me is master defender ls 0404 and some other stuff, i saw how he beated a pre pub 9 menh mls with a perfect/0 sac (pre cu) saber


about ur mind, use stims & syntesteak when u can, helps a lot, notice if you sit down ur mind/action regens very fast, i usually try to sit down to regen my mind in pvp


if i would be you i would do mls + stacking


master defender= a bit less defense, more force, no force run & channel


i recommend my templ: MLS enhancer 3402 defender4040 healer 4000 my bro and me both have same template and we win vs groups to 6-7 people







Nice, I was thinking about a template along the lines you suggested. I have never been without MLS since Aug 2004, so I am a bit tentative about dropping it. I had channel when I was ME, and I do miss it with my current template. Also my Padawan main toon has channel, and I really find it useful. A ton more than meditate, since health regens much quicker than force. I just sit and channel over and over and am full really quick hehe.


Thanks for all your good feedback.






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huttu
Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:55 am
#19






VYRIS wrote:





huttu wrote:




yea thats MLS


if you have a pre cu saber I would recommend going MLS, it all depends on playstyle, try stuff out with ur friends. I win many duels but against a master defender with pre cu (0 sac) saber I ALWAYS lose, if they have no pre cu saber i win so use it well Another friend of me is master defender ls 0404 and some other stuff, i saw how he beated a pre pub 9 menh mls with a perfect/0 sac (pre cu) saber


about ur mind, use stims & syntesteak when u can, helps a lot, notice if you sit down ur mind/action regens very fast, i usually try to sit down to regen my mind in pvp


if i would be you i would do mls + stacking


master defender= a bit less defense, more force, no force run & channel


i recommend my templ: MLS enhancer 3402 defender4040 healer 4000 my bro and me both have same template and we win vs groups to 6-7 people







Nice, I was thinking about a template along the lines you suggested. I have never been without MLS since Aug 2004, so I am a bit tentative about dropping it. I had channel when I was ME, and I do miss it with my current template. Also my Padawan main toon has channel, and I really find it useful. A ton more than meditate, since health regens much quicker than force. I just sit and channel over and over and am full really quick hehe.


Thanks for all your good feedback.







np PM me if you got more questions about that, i experimented a lot with defense templates, took me ages to decide lol



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SoloBacca1
Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:58 am
#20

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