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Thread: 1.5x Stronger? yes? no?

WookieOgre
Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:37 am
#14

Sorry Jedi are not 1.5X powerful.


We were unique with Cloak, that is now being flushed.


This is where we are at currently:


Non-Jedi can have better defenses than Jedi


Non-Jedi can have near the same damage output as a high damage saber (case in point, 645-1325 is my rifle)


Non-Jedi have better healing than Jedi


Non-Jedi have the exact same crowcontrol abilities


So of the 4 major areas, non-Jedi are equal in two areas and are better in the other two. It's funny listening to people saying Jedi is 1.5X powerful because they beat up people all the time. Lets see, maybe that has to do with your better at PvP with your template than the noob you just killed? I agree, a lot of Jedi are good at PvP, when you actually examine the skills that you can get as a Jedi to the skills you can get as a non-Jedi, how exactly are we more powerful. Everyone says, well Master Defender with Healer is 1.5X powerful.....what 1.5X more powerful until you fight a melee template with Doc? I mean they can wear AB sliced armor then heal better than us. I forgot where our AB resist armor is, oh yeah forgot we don't have any.


istali
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:24 am
#15






Atzo wrote:

if you are a full template, not master powers. And a decent saber.








Not true!




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Saereth
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:42 am
#16

Full template AND:


Saber above 700 damage, below 15fc: Yes
Saber below those stats: Hell No.






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Atzo
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:44 am
#17






istali wrote:





Atzo wrote:

if you are a full template, not master powers. And a decent saber.








Not true!






elaborate how my template :


some tk, powers 34xx, enh xxx2, LS x1x2, Healer 2xxx


is 1.5 stronger than a MBH/MCM.





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Onkeljedi
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:44 am
#18

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KRAKEN666
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:45 am
#19

yes, everyone is 1.5X stronger than a jedi.
Atzo
Thu Sep 22, 2005 6:45 am
#20


I think I've gone blind





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Neehivi
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:06 am
#21


i would say:


Jedi vs. MBH/MCM FOTM = No


Jedi vs. anyone else = Yes

Nastypope
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:12 am
#22

Ah Hell no!



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Tanilith
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:14 am
#23

no. straight up. we are 1 x as strong. Even less if you are talking about any sort of a long fight.



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Pday
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:15 am
#24

m.def/m.ls/3-0-0-0 heal/0-0-0-2 enhance is 1.5 stronger than a bh with only cm heals rather than full m.cm dots.



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WookieOgre
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:34 am
#25






Pday wrote:
m.def/m.ls/3-0-0-0 heal/0-0-0-2 enhance is 1.5 stronger than a bh with only cm heals rather than full m.cm dots.





You need to look beyond BH templates. Melee IMO are the biggest underrated threat Jedi face. They have equal defenses + Armor Break + sliceable armor (for AB resists) + Doc Heals. It wouldn't be so bad if we had armor break resists somewhere in Jedi but we don't.
Jacella
Thu Sep 22, 2005 7:36 am
#26

yes...if you know what you're doing.





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