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Channel imho is essential for a Padawan who is grinding to full temp. Once you've reached full temp, its not always necessary, especially if you have a double mastery template. I agree, it is not often used during PvP. But I do suppose it really depends on the player, what their template requires and how they play their template. It really comes down to how you manage your FP. And yes, of course, have a Holocron at the ready.

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MsNiL wrote:

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Ciscero wrote:
A must in Jedi v Jedi battles. Other than that I haven't had much of a problem.
MH/MD 0404Saber

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1 channel and you have lost the duel.

It's a hole you cant get up from before your mind is drained and you are dead.

I have actually won duels with that with my MHealer/MEnhancer/4004LS template, just becouse my opponent made an accidental channel.

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I disagree. I channel frequently during PvP. The 31 FC saber I use nessesitates (Spelling?) it.

Channel has never lost me a duel or lost me the fight during PvP.

The loss of mind is not too diffcult to overcome. Nor is the loss of health. You just have to know when to use channel during a fight.

Its not a nessesity per say for PvP or Pve.

Ask yourself this. How many times during Pve or PvP or even a duel have you run out of force or wish you had more? Have you ever lost a a duel or 1v1 PvP fight because you had -low force- flying above your head.

MsNil:

You are either very good with that template or the MDef/MLS was not very good at all.

Fighting your template even if you maxed with SEAs he should have won.

You have no defense to speak of. No ACC to Speak of. The only thing you do well is heal, stasis, root.

Hitting you with my saber and you not having Aura means I'm hitting at the High end of my dmg Faster then you
even if you have force speed running.

You hitting me, when you do, will be at the extreme low end of your dmg range. Which means with 3xxx Healer
and stim Ds all I have to do is keep infusion up and running. Your saber throw has no KD, saber sweep does little dmg and your most powerful attack is what? body slash? You don't even had Armor Break to help lay the damage on.

There is no way that a good Mdef/MLS loses to you even after accidently hitting channel 1 time. You don't do nearly enough dmg to take advantage of that.

Hell, I've had my health as low as 2k using channel in a duel and never had to freak out. Thats what synthsteak is for.

If you do the math, you will see that, without channel, it will take a double-mastery (MLS, MPowers, 4040 Healer for example) about 18.5 minutes to regen from empty force to full force when he is NOT wearing his Jedi robes, and almost exactly 15 minutes when he is. This assumes that said Jedi is not doing anything at all that will take any force.

If you often spend more than 15 minutes between fights, you can probably afford to not have channel.

However, when you're fighting that BH, and you would have beat him if only you'd been able to channel once, as he ran out of mind when you ran out of force, you're probably gonna be kicking yourself. (Assuming you have no holos at the time.)

as aMP/MLS

Don't see the need for it since the double mastery regens fairly quickly. PVE orPVPI personally don't have any issues do to the certian attacks i use. You can live without it if you know how to manage your force. However if you are still in the grinindg stages I would keep it around.

I keep myself sitting at 4 million xp so I can switch between 2000 enh or 0002 enh for whatever im doing at the time. If i'm doing quests and such that are accomplished alot faster using force run then i go with 2000 enh. If I will be doing force intensive activities , such as grinding then yes as others have stated before channel is essential. But you can most certainly live without it with a completed template. And i find20000 enhalot more useful against kiting bh's then 0002 enh

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DigitalSpider wrote:
I disagree. I channel frequently during PvP. The 31 FC saber I use nessesitates (Spelling?) it.

Channel has never lost me a duel or lost me the fight during PvP.

The loss of mind is not too diffcult to overcome. Nor is the loss of health. You just have to know when to use channel during a fight.

Its not a nessesity per say for PvP or Pve.

Ask yourself this. How many times during Pve or PvP or even a duel have you run out of force or wish you had more? Have you ever lost a a duel or 1v1 PvP fight because you had -low force- flying above your head.

MsNil:

You are either very good with that template or the MDef/MLS was not very good at all.

Fighting your template even if you maxed with SEAs he should have won.

You have no defense to speak of. No ACC to Speak of. The only thing you do well is heal, stasis, root.

Hitting you with my saber and you not having Aura means I'm hitting at the High end of my dmg Faster then you
even if you have force speed running.

You hitting me, when you do, will be at the extreme low end of your dmg range. Which means with 3xxx Healer
and stim Ds all I have to do is keep infusion up and running. Your saber throw has no KD, saber sweep does little dmg and your most powerful attack is what? body slash? You don't even had Armor Break to help lay the damage on.

There is no way that a good Mdef/MLS loses to you even after accidently hitting channel 1 time. You don't do nearly enough dmg to take advantage of that.

Hell, I've had my health as low as 2k using channel in a duel and never had to freak out. Thats what synthsteak is for.

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I have been wracking my brain for a few months now deciding what I want to do. I am a pre-cu MLS/MD/channel Jedi, 9FC saber. So I'm good on FC and my attacks are using a saber, no powers. I won't be using a lot of force unless I use AI a lot and if I do, I might be closed to screwed anyway.

I lived without Channel before the CU and did just fine. In PvE, I had to sit down for a while or get force transfered to me. In PvP, the other side was dead, I was dead, or I sat down for a while and/or had people transfer me force.

So do I really need it that bad? Wouldn't improving healing be better? Going from 1000 to 1500? Could save my life more then using channel. How about getting FR and Root? With lag and fighting ranged BH's, it would be nice to root them in place so I can wail on them or FR away if I had to, to either heal up, eat more food, or escape.

Decisions decisions but I think I want to drop Channel....

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Court-Jester wrote:

If you want to be a better Jedi, learn to fight and die without channel.

The best Jedi know how to manage force consumption. All channel allows you to do is get back in to the fight faster. How often does anyone channel during pvp?

Anyway, life is possible without channel. Short of about 2 months ago (picked it up to help spin for guildmates in training), I survived for over a year+ without it.

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Channel, when used properly, is nearly essential in PvP. During PvE it's mostly to get back into the fight faster, but that's because the player gets to CHOSE when to engage (for the most part). During PvP OTHER PLAYERS get to chose when to engage you. With force being a major not-so-long term limit, expect more deaths if force management isn't used. Please note that the jedi with channel will be able to "manage" force much better. (assuming all things are equal that is)

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Ciscero wrote:

A must in Jedi v Jedi battles. Other than that I haven't had much of a problem.

MH/MD 0404Saber

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Yep. Put together a relatively well matched battle between two jedi. Turn it into a matter of who manages their force the best. Give one jedi drain and channel and the other had better hope for some help (or a similar temp).