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Thread: Cloak DONT need a SNARE
Erynder wrote:
You want to explain why you are a true Jedi and this guy is a respec Mdefender ?
Usbek_Wokei wrote:
Diggydoolans wrote:
Avoid Incap didnt need a snare either.
Please... Here are talkin true Jedi, not respec Mdefenders... Open your own thread
Im a true Jedi cause i suffer ALL the NERFS from this profession. I grinded it ALONEon ENDOR, and need about 7-8 months to make my template.
Think he is a respec MdefenderTalkin about something that is not the matter of the thread?, Asking for make the "god mode on button" working again?. AI is for unskilled ones. That my way to see it, and i dont ask anyoneto think the same i do.
Btw... when you unlocked Jedi?
Erynder wrote:
Usbek_Wokei wrote:
Not looking for support... only i say what i think... For sure all Mdefenders were asking for this NERF.
Ryle80 wrote:
Nice way to get support for your thread
Usbek_Wokei wrote:
Diggydoolans wrote:
Avoid Incap didnt need a snare either.
Please... Here are talkin true Jedi, not respec Mdefenders... Open your own thread
Both in Everqyest2, World of Warcraft, and every other game in the world, stealth has a SNARE and the chance to be DETECTED. Just count your stars they are not instating random detection.
I spent 4 months alone grinding my template, i am a pre CU knight so what gives u right to say im not a true jedi.
Also cloak is the i wont get beat button.
Usbek_Wokei wrote:
Erynder wrote:
You want to explain why you are a true Jedi and this guy is a respec Mdefender ?
Usbek_Wokei wrote:
Diggydoolans wrote:
Avoid Incap didnt need a snare either.
Please... Here are talkin true Jedi, not respec Mdefenders... Open your own thread
Im a true Jedi cause i suffer ALL the NERFS from this profession. I grinded it ALONEon ENDOR, and need about 7-8 months to make my template.
Think he is a respec MdefenderTalkin about something that is not the matter of the thread?, Asking for make the "god mode on button" working again?. AI is for unskilled ones. That my way to see it, and i dont ask anyoneto think the same i do.
Btw... when you unlocked Jedi?
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=242718&poll_id=0&category_id=19&warned=y
Old enough for you ?
Oh and AI is not the '' god mode on button ''. Cloak is the god mode on button. With my current Lightsaber, I don't think I will ever die with cloak.
You only delay your death with AI, but you can get rid of 239847293487 enemies with cloak. Whatever dude, if you're gonna ask '' When did you unlock ? '' to everyone who disagrees with you, gl.
Erynder wrote:
Usbek_Wokei wrote:
Erynder wrote:
You want to explain why you are a true Jedi and this guy is a respec Mdefender ?
Usbek_Wokei wrote:
Diggydoolans wrote:
Avoid Incap didnt need a snare either.
Please... Here are talkin true Jedi, not respec Mdefenders... Open your own thread
Im a true Jedi cause i suffer ALL the NERFS from this profession. I grinded it ALONEon ENDOR, and need about 7-8 months to make my template.
Think he is a respec MdefenderTalkin about something that is not the matter of the thread?, Asking for make the "god mode on button" working again?. AI is for unskilled ones. That my way to see it, and i dont ask anyoneto think the same i do.
Btw... when you unlocked Jedi?
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=setandget&tp=242718&poll_id=0&category_id=19&warned=y
Old enough for you ?
Oh and AI is not the '' god mode on button ''. Cloak is the god mode on button. With my current Lightsaber, I don't think I will ever die with cloak.
You only delay your death with AI, but you can get rid of 239847293487 enemies with cloak. Whatever dude, if you're gonna ask '' When did you unlock ? '' to everyone who disagrees with you, gl.
Sorry about that... but in this forums all i can read is nerf the offensive moves and keep the defensive ones. Almost that say that are new Jedi.
Cloak is not a god mode button... if you want cloak you must sacrifice a lot of skills, cause MPowers is weak. A root and you are dead.
Before snare AI was "god mode on button"... AI, fr2 and bye.
Before snare AI was "god mode on button"... AI, fr2 and bye.
Yes, but cloak isnt at master powers, its only a 4th tier skill
AI + FR2 = 89+28 (exactly half the sp of a double mastery temp)skill points btw compared with 28 for cloak.
Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-20-2005 10:28 AM
Ryle80 wrote:
Cloak is not a god mode button... if you want cloak you must sacrifice a lot of skills, cause MPowers is weak. A root and you are dead.
Before snare AI was "god mode on button"... AI, fr2 and bye.
Yes, but cloak isnt at master powers, its only a 4th tier skill
AI + FR2 = 89+28 (exactly half the sp of a double mastery temp)skill points btw compared with 28 for cloak.
Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-20-200510:28 AM
Usbek_Wokei wrote:
Ryle80 wrote:
Cloak is not a god mode button... if you want cloak you must sacrifice a lot of skills, cause MPowers is weak. A root and you are dead.
Before snare AI was "god mode on button"... AI, fr2 and bye.
Yes, but cloak isnt at master powers, its only a 4th tier skill
AI + FR2 = 89+28 (exactly half the sp of a double mastery temp)skill points btw compared with 28 for cloak.
Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-20-200510:28 AM
Make a snare on cloak dont prevent run away from enemy...
You run, get the 20m, and the cloak
+snare+
You can get out there without any problem...
I mean for offensive tactis
You see enemies... see the healers behind...
cloak
+snare+
When you get at the healers you dont have force.
Is this a logical NERF????????????
Understand whatI mean?
Thanks.
felipz wrote:
Usbek_Wokei wrote:
Ryle80 wrote:
Cloak is not a god mode button... if you want cloak you must sacrifice a lot of skills, cause MPowers is weak. A root and you are dead.
Before snare AI was "god mode on button"... AI, fr2 and bye.
Yes, but cloak isnt at master powers, its only a 4th tier skill
AI + FR2 = 89+28 (exactly half the sp of a double mastery temp)skill points btw compared with 28 for cloak.
Message Edited by Ryle80 on 09-20-200510:28 AM
Make a snare on cloak dont prevent run away from enemy...
You run, get the 20m, and the cloak
+snare+
You can get out there without any problem...
I mean for offensive tactis
You see enemies... see the healers behind...
cloak
+snare+
When you get at the healers you dont have force.
Is this a logical NERF????????????
Understand whatI mean?
Thanks.
That's the nerf they are telling us ... now they said they want cloak to be used for first strikes. There is where the stealth nerf comes in ! Or not.
Kakov wrote:
Diggydoolans wrote:
Avoid Incap didnt need a snare either.
/agree
Neither of the skills need a snare, but both were/are seen as escapes and as we know... if BHs scream loud enough changes happen.
BHs scream loud enough?!!? Dude, you jedi cry and complain about nerfing the whole game AND each other. Dont be blaming the BHs. Sure i see people complaining, but you Jedi on these forums complain SOOOOOOO much its rediculous, dont kid yourself.
Ai needed the snare because you can still inflict damage when you should be out for the count, mixed with force run this became invincible.
Cloak on the other hand, does not need a snare as you canot inflict any damage while under cloak. You can heal and chanel while cloaked atm, but at the same time SO can the other person.
Now with the new change, under cloak you canot heal OR channel, BUT the other person STILL CAN, totally unbalancing this skill in the most gimped mastery.
Message Edited by Eme on 09-20-2005 03:48 AM
Eme wrote:
Ai needed the snare because you can still inflict damage when you should be out for the count, mixed with force run this became invincible.
Cloak on the other hand, does not need a snare as you canot inflict any damage while under cloak. You can heal and chanel while cloaked atm, but at the same time SO can the other person.
Now with the new change, under cloak you canot heal OR channel, BUT the other person STILL CAN, totally unbalancing this skill in the most gimped mastery.
Message Edited by Eme on 09-20-2005 03:48 AM
*buzzer goes off*
Wrong answer, that would be Master Healer, thus why Ranger/SL are more easily found.
I don't agree with the snare, This should be powers version of FR3, Total Heal, Dervish, and AI. Always thought it should be in Master Powers, but don't agree with the snare.
Usbek_Wokei wrote:
Diggydoolans wrote:
Avoid Incap didnt need a snare either.
Please... Here are talkin true Jedi, not respec Mdefenders... Open your own thread
No doubt you never respeced once during that whole period right?
Besides your halfwited verbal assaults consider this about your cloaking,
if you read what it says about cloaking in your little box it says it is a mind trick, not a mystical change into another dimension or something... so in my opinion you should only be able to activate the cloak within a certain range of someone, close enough to use a mind trick or attack, say vis range, 30 meters or so, then you shouldn't be able to activate it within 20 meters of someone as it is now, So let's go with tihs concept, I think you should really only be able to cloak within 30 meters of a player or npc but at least 20 meters away, Gives you a nice 10 meters to play with. Give me that, and I will say you don't need a snare, otherwise you can take the extra time to walk up to your opponent to fight them, your wanting to be able to attack first and run later is sad, I was MDef when they gave us the snare, they alread did a number on the enhancers practically snaring the force run, healers have an outrageous force cost to their total heal ability, perhaps it's just the cloakers time, they already gave you the ability to not even be /target'able which I found rediculous, If you "know" that somone is there, it should defeat the mind trick and reveal the jedi at least to the one person. I was MPowers once, there's nothing like being able to cloak, and there should be anything like the way it is now...