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Thread: Garva answer the questions asked by Bacca please

Platium
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:50 am
#14

I think at the rate it is going right now the devs will throw us a bone and clear some things out... i would really like to know what they are visions SWG to be in like 6 Months or so. And could all these nerfs towards jedi be cause the FRS is near to come... really padawan is supposed to be the weakest of all the jedi and kinda equal or even weaker than a normal profession, and don't forget what all jedi are atm.
WinkerPeeper
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:52 am
#15






Reikus wrote:









I could only imagine it would be because this seems to be the only rational thread they've gotten to read and respond to that hasn't gotten flamed to death. I actually feel sorry for all the constructive posters whose opinions fall on deaf ears because of the flames and hate posts that follow. We're all in this together, and not just jedi.


This entire thing is happening here because it was posted here. It's not just about us. We are the angriest only because while we must accept the changes, we never seem to reapany benefit from them. I'm not going to defend anyone or protest against them either. I'm sure our requests are being looked at and evaluated as they must be, but us being loud, rude, and hateful is only going to confuse them as to what truly needs to be done.


The more noise to be filtered out.. the longer it takes for voices to be heard clearly. I think that's what the intentions were of the message that was sent to us.





But, with respect, don't you see that's not true? For months and months, there have been quiet, rational and polite requests and feedback. About the FRS, about pearls, about saber speed, about the impotence of Master Healer and Master Powers, about the changes to Saber Throw, to AI, to Cloak, to FR... (and I am only talking about the broken aspects of the Jedi profession - not the utterly borked Smuggler, Commando, CH, Musician, Dancer, or Crafter professions). The only response we have ever received was 'We are looking into this'. And then SWG comes out with new group xp changes, the combat multiplier, Kashyyyk, capital ships and now ToOW - in other words, it becomes obvious that our feedback is not being evaluated and looked at.


Yet, when some forum posters scream and shout, we get two senior Mods in one thread. Admittedly, they don't seem to address our very real issues but at least their attention was attracted.





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Malicious1
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:52 am
#16

6 months wont help


my 3 accounts cancelled and 30 guild accounts gone


as well as all the expansion preorders missed


the one true FORCE is is soe greed


they will notice less money






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RingSting_IOM
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:01 am
#17

I know I'm in the wrong forum here, so forgive me for that


But I agree with some of the posters request for a general overall picture to be painted for us, I'm sure this would help take away some of the anger as people wont be so shocked when some of the things they enjoyed in their profession are taken away. From my point of view the things that are happening with the Jedi are improving the game, but I understand if from others point of view that is not the case. If we could get a glimpse at the overall picture we can look forwradto the great things that I'm sure are in stock for us all and the fun that can be had.





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Platium
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:06 am
#18






RingSting_IOM wrote:

I know I'm in the wrong forum here, so forgive me for that


But I agree with some of the posters request for a general overall picture to be painted for us, I'm sure this would help take away some of the anger as people wont be so shocked when some of the things they enjoyed in their profession are taken away. From my point of view the things that are happening with the Jedi are improving the game, but I understand if from others point of view that is not the case. If we could get a glimpse at the overall picture we can look forwradto the great things that I'm sure are in stock for us all and the fun that can be had.







naah m8 the changes they did to snares didn't only hinder the jedi but also every other melee profession out there. I remember a m8 telling me after i returned to see how the CU was after about 2 months being away that ranged is new melee now . And that very good friend of mine is also gone for now, it's such a pitty when i saw the mail he sent that he was leaving.
RingSting_IOM
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:18 am
#19






Platium wrote:





RingSting_IOM wrote:

I know I'm in the wrong forum here, so forgive me for that


But I agree with some of the posters request for a general overall picture to be painted for us, I'm sure this would help take away some of the anger as people wont be so shocked when some of the things they enjoyed in their profession are taken away. From my point of view the things that are happening with the Jedi are improving the game, but I understand if from others point of view that is not the case. If we could get a glimpse at the overall picture we can look forwradto the great things that I'm sure are in stock for us all and the fun that can be had.







naah m8 the changes they did to snares didn't only hinder the jedi but also every other melee profession out there. I remember a m8 telling me after i returned to see how the CU was after about 2 months being away that ranged is new melee now . And that very good friend of mine is also gone for now, it's such a pitty when i saw the mail he sent that he was leaving.





I understand the frustration of the snares, but it seems to me that the actual root of the problem is bounty hunters being able to beat Jedi without as much difficulty as Jedi would like. And also the whole issue of where the Jedi fits in the whole balance of the game. It would be good if the devs told us the plans for this so we could get a better idea. When I say i think these changes improve the game im not just talkin about the pub 24 ones but the continuing balancing of the Jedi(i guess many here would call it nerfing:smileyhappy. But I think it will improve the overall game. If this new FRS system is what I hope, then the elite powers will be restored to a skilled few, that will not imbalance the game.



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Platium
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:21 am
#20

Ye i think at the time the FRS seems the only way to bring back the glory of the jedi. Who else is a rodian jedi besides me and has 2900 health as max ? I am lvl 80 and without wounds and didn't use channel. (just noticed that, kinda wierd)
Platium
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:28 am
#21






WinkerPeeper wrote:





RingSting_IOM wrote:








I understand the frustration of the snares, but it seems to me that the actual root of the problem is bounty hunters being able to beat Jedi without as much difficulty as Jedi would like. And also the whole issue of where the Jedi fits in the whole balance of the game. It would be good if the devs told us the plans for this so we could get a better idea. When I say i think these changes improve the game im not just talkin about the pub 24 ones but the continuing balancing of the Jedi(i guess many here would call it nerfing:smileyhappy. But I think it will improve the overall game. If this new FRS system is what I hope, then the elite powers will be restored to a skilled few, that will not imbalance the game.





I think many Jedi would agree with your sentiment.


I happen to be a player who prefers PVE. I chose the MLS/Mdef/Enh 2xxx/Heal 3xxx specifically for that reason. I like to explore and do missions either by myself or in small groups.


I do not like the idea of being able to be attacked by super-bufed, super-armoured, super-drugged 14 year old l33t players at will while out having fun but that's the price I have to pay to be able to enjoy other aspects of the game.


Except, it is now incredibly hard to fend them off. All the recent changes have been specifically designed to weaken Jedi and increase the strength of people who want to stuff my game play. I didn't ask for those changes, I didn't receive any explanation as to why those changes came and I am angry that my concerns seem to have been ignored. I believe that many other Jedi in my position feel the same way.







again i have to say that FRS must be close due to all these nerfs against jedi. Padawan is supposed to be the weakest of all jedi and atm we are all padawans.
Platium
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:30 am
#22

sry for a double post but i think that it's kinda pointless to play the game during the following week, cause kids are having their school breaks and stuff during that time...
RingSting_IOM
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:30 am
#23






WinkerPeeper wrote:





RingSting_IOM wrote:








I understand the frustration of the snares, but it seems to me that the actual root of the problem is bounty hunters being able to beat Jedi without as much difficulty as Jedi would like. And also the whole issue of where the Jedi fits in the whole balance of the game. It would be good if the devs told us the plans for this so we could get a better idea. When I say i think these changes improve the game im not just talkin about the pub 24 ones but the continuing balancing of the Jedi(i guess many here would call it nerfing:smileyhappy. But I think it will improve the overall game. If this new FRS system is what I hope, then the elite powers will be restored to a skilled few, that will not imbalance the game.





I think many Jedi would agree with your sentiment.


I happen to be a player who prefers PVE. I chose the MLS/Mdef/Enh 2xxx/Heal 3xxx specifically for that reason. I like to explore and do missions either by myself or in small groups.


I do not like the idea of being able to be attacked by super-bufed, super-armoured, super-drugged 14 year old l33t players at will while out having fun but that's the price I have to pay to be able to enjoy other aspects of the game.


Except, it is now incredibly hard to fend them off. All the recent changes have been specifically designed to weaken Jedi and increase the strength of people who want to stuff my game play. I didn't ask for those changes, I didn't receive any explanation as to why those changes came and I am angry that my concerns seem to have been ignored. I believe that many other Jedi in my position feel the same way.






I think this isthe real problem, if this were to happen and you were told why maybe there wouldnt be so much anger.




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WinkerPeeper
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:32 am
#24






Platium wrote:



again i have to say that FRS must be close due to all these nerfs against jedi. Padawan is supposed to be the weakest of all jedi and atm we are all padawans.




I only hope you are right but, remember?, they said the CU was 'just around the corner' in January 04 and it didn't arrive till April (?) 2005.




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Platium
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:34 am
#25






WinkerPeeper wrote:





Platium wrote:



again i have to say that FRS must be close due to all these nerfs against jedi. Padawan is supposed to be the weakest of all jedi and atm we are all padawans.




I only hope you are right but, remember?, they said the CU was 'just around the corner' in January 04 and it didn't arrive till April (?) 2005.






Oh my... why did u have to remind me that
WinkerPeeper
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:35 am
#26






RingSting_IOM wrote:








I think this isthe real problem, if this were to happen and you were told why maybe there wouldnt be so much anger.







Absolutely. One of the reasons that there is so much anger against SOE - not just on these boards but, more crucially, in the review sections of amazon.com, Gamespot, IGN and the usernet pages - is that there is never any real explanation, any acknowledgement of feedback or any sense that real concerns are getting proper attention.


I mean, sure, we all want Capital Ships - on which the Devs now seem to be beavering away - but couldn't they just allocate a Dev or two to make Grand Krayts, NSElders and DJMs drop premium pearls? We need those.



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